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Galaxy S vs i Phone 4S
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crazybear
28-10-2011
Which is better for you? i'm thinking to buy one of them.

i found an interesting video about their drop test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhwDid you see this?

Maybe, I think i have to buy SAMSUNG Galaxy S. HAHA
eypon
28-10-2011
I've had a GSII since it came out

by far the best phone i've had

also yeah i've dropped mine like 30 times at least

its still rocking ;D
OnlyWayIsEpics
28-10-2011
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1558802
Rich2k
28-10-2011
Drop a glass phone from a height onto concrete and it breaks. Who'd have thought
call100
28-10-2011
Every comparison I've read gives it to the SGS2
pumazooma
28-10-2011
They're pretty similar tbh.
Buy the one you like the best.
OnlyWayIsEpics
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by Rich2k:
“Drop a glass phone from a height onto concrete and it breaks. Who'd have thought ”

You seem to be under the impression there is only one strength of glass. Ever heard of bullet proof glass (not saying that's what they should have used but proving a point not all types ofglas are brittle).

The S2 uses the best manufacturer of Gorilla glass there is, Apple use a cheaper Chinese versiom which is why the S2 didn't smash when dropped face down (despite having a larger area of glass)
pumazooma
28-10-2011
I suspect more to do with the fact that it's slightly recessed on the S2 so any drop on to a flat surface doesn't actually touch the glass.

Also most iPhone owners seem to put them in cases so that negates any drop test results really. It comes down to which one you like best.
unklesam
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by call100:
“Every comparison I've read gives it to the SGS2”

I agree with this the SGS2 comes out top, sadly however tech sites seem to focus on the 1 test the SGS2 fails and thats the sunspider java test
battlezone
28-10-2011
If you want fantastic smartphone that doesn't restrict you in anyway the it has got to be the SG2S
Rich2k
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by OnlyWayIsEpics:
“You seem to be under the impression there is only one strength of glass. Ever heard of bullet proof glass (not saying that's what they should have used but proving a point not all types ofglas are brittle).

The S2 uses the best manufacturer of Gorilla glass there is, Apple use a cheaper Chinese versiom which is why the S2 didn't smash when dropped face down (despite having a larger area of glass)”

Not necessarily, it's to do with a number of factors

1) How the phone lands, if it lands on an corner rather than edge or flat then it's more likely to break

2) How close the glass is to the edge of the device, in the case of the iPhone it's closer than the S2

3) The weight of the phone, the heavier the more chance as it'll be moving faster

That clip isn't in the least bit scientific and can't be used to prove anything.
paulbrock
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by Rich2k:
“3) The weight of the phone, the heavier the more chance as it'll be moving faster”

not faster, but with more momentum.
lozzauk85
28-10-2011
Weight has nothing to do with how fast an object falls. Drop a penny and a hammer and they'll hit the ground at the same time. Granted the iPhone may hit the ground first due to increased weight vs air resistance, but the difference will be negligible. There may well be more force on the glass as the phone is heavier though (more momentum)

This doesn't change the fact it is a fragile design.
paulbrock
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by pumazooma:
“I suspect more to do with the fact that it's slightly recessed on the S2 so any drop on to a flat surface doesn't actually touch the glass.”

Regardless of the reason, be it stronger glass, a recess on the S2 (that having checked appears to be nearly invisible to the naked eye,except on the top and bottom) or having a stronger back, the fact remains that the iphone 4/4s is widely regarded as being more fragile.

That may not be a major factor in your choice of phone, but it is a 'feature' I'm glad I have.
paulbrock
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by lozzauk85:
“Granted the iPhone may hit the ground first due to increased weight vs air resistance, but the difference will be negligible.”

Bigger screen on the S2 might give more air resistance
Rich2k
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by lozzauk85:
“Weight has nothing to do with how fast an object falls. Drop a penny and a hammer and they'll hit the ground at the same time. Granted the iPhone may hit the ground first due to increased weight vs air resistance, but the difference will be negligible. There may well be more force on the glass as the phone is heavier though (more momentum)

This doesn't change the fact it is a fragile design.”

Weight does indeed, not mass as weight includes the force of gravity.

Things only fall at the same speed once they have reached terminal velocity but at that height neither would have reached it so the heavier of the two will indeed hit the floor before the lighter.

The speed to reach terminal velocity will be determined by, as you state, the air resistance
ACU
28-10-2011
Whilst not the most scientfic of tests, it is widely regarded that the GS2 is the more sturdy of the two phones. The SGS2 uses Gorilla glass, that is the best glass to use. I believe all the apple fans used to rave about it when it was on the 3GS, now that its not used on the iphone4 - they have gone quiet about it.
flynn
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by Rich2k:
“Things only fall at the same speed once they have reached terminal velocity but at that height neither would have reached it so the heavier of the two will indeed hit the floor before the lighter.”

Sorry, but the physics geek in me can't let this go...

This is incorrect. If you drop a ballbearing and a bowling ball from any height they will hit the ground at the same time. This was most dramatically proved during one of the Apollo missions when the astronaut dropped a hammer and a feather and they did indeed hit the ground at the same time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8
TheBigM
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by flynn:
“Sorry, but the physics geek in me can't let this go...

This is incorrect. If you drop a ballbearing and a bowling ball from any height they will hit the ground at the same time. This was most dramatically proved during one of the Apollo missions when the astronaut dropped a hammer and a feather and they did indeed hit the ground at the same time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8”

On the moon! Back here on Earth, there is much denser air to provide the feather with drag so it is slower to reach terminal velocity.

Second you know that gravitational attraction between two objects can vary based on distance and relative masses. It's just that compared with the massive-ness of the moon, the difference in mass between a hammer and a feather is imperceptible.
millie09
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by Rich2k:
“Drop a glass phone from a height onto concrete and it breaks. Who'd have thought ”

lol, let's all get a new phone and drop it and see what happens lol
Rich2k
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“On the moon! Back here on Earth, there is much denser air to provide the feather with drag so it is slower to reach terminal velocity.

Second you know that gravitational attraction between two objects can vary based on distance and relative masses. It's just that compared with the massive-ness of the moon, the difference in mass between a hammer and a feather is imperceptible.”

Exactly in an airless environment that is true, in a atmosphere with atmospheric drag two objects of differing masses and shapes and aerodynamics will reach terminal velocity at different rates.
flynn
28-10-2011
It's also been proven here on earth in any number of experiments. Acceleration due to gravity on earth is 9.8m/s/s no matter what the mass (or weight, although in this case the two are more or less interchangeable) of the item you drop.

Of course air resistance will have an impact, which is why I chose the bowling ball/ballbearing example.

I'm going to leave this thread now before I turn into this person
Dan Sette
28-10-2011
mass v surface area, surely.

Objects only fall at the same speed in the absence of air (as per your clip)
Rich2k
28-10-2011
Under and atmosphere you also have to take into account aerodynamics, the shape of the item, not matter how close they look will make a difference.
flynn
28-10-2011
OK, one last go...

Take a 1 metre cube mad of plastic. Take an identically sized cube made of lead. Drop them at the same time. They will hit the ground at the same time.

You may want to clear the area first....
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