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Little Mix in tears over Misha B 'bullying'
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AssistedAction
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“Funny enough Beyonce new video came out a day or so ago with her being kind and letting Kelly come in as a support singer and clip filler for part of the track.

http://www.eurweb.com/2011/10/watch-...2%80%99-video/

This Kelly is over hyped and I think all the agro and put downs she causes, is to big herself up as underneath she knows this.

I believe Tulisa and what she say's. She is coming over as honest down to earth and cares about her acts. Even Louis I think is more genuine than Kelly and Barlow put together.

Kelly should not have left her acts and whether this is some X Factor spin or not, like Barlow she has been shown up and found lacking.”

Sorry but what a load of BS from start to finish.
hitnmix
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Completely different and out of context, Tulisa was warning people off messing with her man. Understandable and completely different from harassment and bullying.”

So for you it OK to go around threatening to beat girls is it.

Says a lot about you that does.

As for Tulisa she sould trust her man just like a millions of females all over the world who dont threatening to beat girls because their man is out drinking.

OH by the way the bullying was said to be false by many from the show. So the bullying argument from you is just a sad and very very weak.
Eve Elle
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“So for you it OK to go around threatening to beat girls is it.

Says a lot about you that does.

As for Tulisa she sould trust her man just like a millions of females all over the world who dont threatening to beat girls because their man is out drinking.

OH by the way the bullying was said to be false by many from the show. So the bullying argument from you is just a sad and very very weak.”

Never said that. I said it was understandable for Tulisa to warn people off her man, if you can't comprehend what I'm saying, then please don't respond at all. Thank you.
hitnmix
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Never said that. I said it was understandable for Tulisa to warn people off her man, if you can't comprehend what I'm saying, then please don't respond at all. Thank you. ”




Well most normal people trust their man and wouldnt even dream of threatening people. And most people would find someone threatening people wrong. And would never defend them for doing it.

Anyway its OK I wont resond to you any more as I find your view on this kind of behaviour very naive, sad and disturbing.
D. Morgan
29-10-2011
Meh, she's not bullying me so I don't care.
gisnow21
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Never said that. I said it was understandable for Tulisa to warn people off her man, if you can't comprehend what I'm saying, then please don't respond at all. Thank you. ”

So ironic... the people have been accusing Misha for doing the same...
Why this rumour about Tulisa should have any credibility an Misha's dont?
hitnmix
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by gisnow21:
“So ironic... the people have been accusing Misha for doing the same...
Why this rumour about Tulisa should have any credibility an Misha's dont?”


Tulisa posted it herself on her twiiter.

So you cant get any truer than that. As for MIsha when Little Mix come out and say it themselfs then it will have credibility untill then its just second hand romours.
Smithy57
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Bullying doesn't have to be physical, it can take the form mental distress. Physicality or strength of numbers isn't always key.

Plus, the girls in Little Mix might not have had experience with this kind of abuse before and can't quite deal with it effectively. Whereas by her own admission, Misha is an experienced bully and probably has a couple of tricks up her sleeve.”

But Tulisa warning people off with naked intimidation doesn't constitute "bullying" in any form?

Your knowledge of this subject is impressive, cos I don't get that.
Shadow2009
29-10-2011
I can see Little Mix being eliminated on Sunday, to maybe put an end to all these rumours and bad press.

However we should note it wasn't just Little Mix who reported a problem, one of the Over 25's also complained about her as well.
Big Boy Barry
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by D. Morgan:
“Meh, she's not bullying me so I don't care.”

That's the spirit!
wise-up
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by I heart Kelly:
“I dont give a flying one where it comes from tbh

it is pure gossip as far as i'm concerned”

Fair enough
johartuk
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“Tulisa pointed out in the article that its okay when judges talk about how nice the acts are backstage eg Marcus.Shouldn't that be left backstage since it has nothing to do with the performance? I dont think it is fair that Tulisa is getting all this flack when they do the same thing. This rule of what happens backstage should stay backstage seems to only apply when the judges say something negative and IMO it isnt fair.”

All that should be commented on during the show is the performances.
Eve Elle
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by gisnow21:
“So ironic... the people have been accusing Misha for doing the same...
Why this rumour about Tulisa should have any credibility an Misha's dont?”

There's a world of difference between a harmless, tongue in cheek twitter comment and actually bullying someone in the flesh, so much so that they break down in tears.

People seem to believe whatever they want to believe, as long it supports their own biased agendas.
Mood Indigo
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Shadow2009:
“I can see Little Mix being eliminated on Sunday, to maybe put an end to all these rumours and bad press.

However we should note it wasn't just Little Mix who reported a problem, one of the Over 25's also complained about her as well.”


Only according to Louis!! Subsequently Sami, Johhny and even Kitty have all said they have no problem with Misha and she's a nice kid.

Janet and Sophie have defended her.

I've seen from the footage in the house on Xtra Factor that Misha gets on well with Marcus, Craig and Frankie.

Misha gets on well with the Risk.

Nu Vibe when they left said how much they liked Misha.

Amelia said her and Misha were good friends.

Melanie who didn't make it to the live finals, was at the show last week, and saying how unfair Tulisa and Louis had been to her friend Misha.

Now I and no one else on this forum was present when something clearly went down between Misha and the girl band, however, I minded based on what other contestants have said to believe Sami's version of it being an argument between the girls.

Put a load of girls together and there will unfortunately be some bitching.

Tulisa in particular has been so shady about the whole thing, and she knows what she is doing...in the words of the Beastie Boys...Sabotage.

Tulisa's a hard face little madam, and she's actually being pretty stupid about this. Whilst her fans will cheer her feisty personality, "ya guy, big up da female boss, Tulisa is repping her endz innit,ya git me and keepin' it real " and other such meaningless tosh, what she is actually doing is just showing that she is a rather immature, vindictive young woman, with a piss poor knowledge of musical genres outside of the faux "urban"rubbish her band peddles.
Lauraeve2011
29-10-2011
Well its a house full of girls, there is always going to be fights and rows, Maybe little mix are sensitive little souls, they're all quite young and naive and have a lot to learn about the industry. Equally Misha comes across as she thinks she's better than anyone else and over brashy. She probs said something to them without thinking and upset the girls, shit happens especially on XF and all these storylines are masking the fact none of them are all that talented and the only thing that keeps it going is the drama and panto feel. I for one am very tired of bully-gate, its not like its the first time, every year there is a villan, a over confident one and a novelty act.

I agree with what Tulisa did - she stuck up for her acts, couldve worded it better but she is taking her role seriously which in my eyes makes her a fab judge and half of what she's saying is a producer behind the scenes, the show is scripted right down to the bottom two, whatever went on, the producers wouldve manipulated and they probably do not want Misha in the show cos they can see she isn't all that good and just a copycat version of what is todays music industry.
ICON111
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Mood Indigo:
“Only according to Louis!! Subsequently Sami, Johhny and even Kitty have all said they have no problem with Misha and she's a nice kid.

Janet and Sophie have defended her.

I've seen from the footage in the house on Xtra Factor that Misha gets on well with Marcus, Craig and Frankie.

Misha gets on well with the Risk.

Nu Vibe when they left said how much they liked Misha.

Amelia said her and Misha were good friends.

Melanie who didn't make it to the live finals, was at the show last week, and saying how unfair Tulisa and Louis had been to her friend Misha.

Now I and no one else on this forum was present when something clearly went down between Misha and the girl band, however, I minded based on what other contestants have said to believe Sami's version of it being an argument between the girls.

Put a load of girls together and there will unfortunately be some bitching.

Tulisa in particular has been so shady about the whole thing, and she knows what she is doing...in the words of the Beastie Boys...Sabotage.

Tulisa's a hard face little madam, and she's actually being pretty stupid about this. Whilst her fans will cheer her feisty personality, "ya guy, big up da female boss, Tulisa is repping her endz innit,ya git me and keepin' it real " and other such meaningless tosh, what she is actually doing is just showing that she is a rather immature, vindictive young woman, with a piss poor knowledge of musical genres outside of the faux "urban"rubbish her band peddles.”

Post of the week!
gisnow21
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“Tulisa posted it herself on her twiiter.

So you cant get any truer than that. As for MIsha when Little Mix come out and say it themselfs then it will have credibility untill then its just second hand romours.”

i follow Tulisa's twitter everyday and i havent seen a twitt about misha and fazer ever... dont lie...
Shadow2009
29-10-2011
I guess we won't find out what happened until the XF contracts run out and the acts can say whatever they want.

Whatever we hear now is just coming from puppets of the show who can't break a contract.
Mood Indigo
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by ICON111:
“Post of the week!”


Why thank you kindly

Thing is I'm not even a particular fan of X factor, but I do watch it ( and SCD !!) from time to time, before going out in on a Saturday, and I've seen several shows this year. This year even more than before, it has given up all pretence to be a music programme. I'm bored to distraction with the nonsense from the judges, who are all in it for two thing and two things only. money and exposure. Tulisa I suspect only cares marginally more about the Risk and Pick n Mix than I do,...and I couldn't give a toss about either. I take the show for what it is. However this whole thing with Misha has me vexed!!!

She seems to be one of the few on the programme with any discernible musical ability and talent; and I find the manner in which she has been treated really off key. As we all know, it is very easy to brand someone with a bad name, but to do it in the forum of a live show, is just shady.

Brandish the word bully around and some people seem to lose all reason and rational thought. Seemingly for some the word bully has become a by word for anything not nice...she/ he dissed me, called me a name, argued with me, thinks I can't sing for toffees, etc, etc. The way I've seen it used on DS, not just in relation to this matter, but other programmes, completely devalues the word and it's real meaning.

Even more crazy is how, suddenly the Sun and Daily Mail become organs of all that is true. Twitter, (which is simply the home of idle gossip) an oracle of wisdom. Rumours and half truths become the reality. All very bizarre.
Burkette
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Shadow2009:
“I guess we won't find out what happened until the XF contracts run out and the acts can say whatever they want.

Whatever we hear now is just coming from puppets of the show who can't break a contract.”

Sami has been very vocal about the show and her dislike of the song choices, how unhappy she is with Louis and why he should not be a judge. She rubbished the bully claims and said that they were ridiculous. Sami is not a puppet in the least, Louis is clearly a liar and Tulisa too desperate to win.
Smithy57
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Mood Indigo:
“Why thank you kindly

Thing is I'm not even a particular fan of X factor, but I do watch it ( and SCD !!) from time to time, before going out in on a Saturday, and I've seen several shows this year. This year even more than before, it has given up all pretence to be a music programme. I'm bored to distraction with the nonsense from the judges, who are all in it for two thing and two things only. money and exposure. Tulisa I suspect only cares marginally more about the Risk and Pick n Mix than I do,...and I couldn't give a toss about either. I take the show for what it is. However this whole thing with Misha has me vexed!!!

She seems to be one of the few on the programme with any discernible musical ability and talent; and I find the manner in which she has been treated really off key. As we all know, it is very easy to brand someone with a bad name, but to do it in the forum of a live show, is just shady.

Brandish the word bully around and some people seem to lose all reason and rational thought. Seemingly for some the word bully has become a by word for anything not nice...she/ he dissed me, called me a name, argued with me, thinks I can't sing for toffees, etc, etc. The way I've seen it used on DS, not just in relation to this matter, but other programmes, completely devalues the word and it's real meaning.

Even more crazy is how, suddenly the Sun and Daily Mail become organs of all that is true. Twitter, (which is simply the home of idle gossip) an oracle of wisdom. Rumours and half truths become the reality. All very bizarre.”

The only thing I can add to this oasis of common sense is that once labelled a bully ( as Louis did with Misha) the burden of proof for a worryingly large number of people then lies with the accused. The concept of innocence goes out of the window. Ironically a lot of this comes from people who consider themselves "liberal".
Eve Elle
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Smithy57:
“The only thing I can add to this oasis of common sense is that once labelled a bully ( as Louis did with Misha) the burden of proof for a worryingly large number of people then lies with the accused. The concept of innocence goes out of the window. Ironically a lot of this comes from people who consider themselves "liberal".”

Let's be frank, we're talking about a self confessed bully here, not some innocent flower.
Smithy57
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Let's be frank, we're talking about a self confessed bully here, not some innocent flower. ”

Where has Misha ever said "I AM a bully. I DID bully other acts on the show"

She hasn't. But let's not let the facts get in the way of a personal attack based on your own narrow tastes, eh?
Burkette
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Mood Indigo:
“Only according to Louis!! Subsequently Sami, Johhny and even Kitty have all said they have no problem with Misha and she's a nice kid.

Janet and Sophie have defended her.

I've seen from the footage in the house on Xtra Factor that Misha gets on well with Marcus, Craig and Frankie.

Misha gets on well with the Risk.

Nu Vibe when they left said how much they liked Misha.

Amelia said her and Misha were good friends.

Melanie who didn't make it to the live finals, was at the show last week, and saying how unfair Tulisa and Louis had been to her friend Misha.

Now I and no one else on this forum was present when something clearly went down between Misha and the girl band, however, I minded based on what other contestants have said to believe Sami's version of it being an argument between the girls.

Put a load of girls together and there will unfortunately be some bitching.

Tulisa in particular has been so shady about the whole thing, and she knows what she is doing...in the words of the Beastie Boys...Sabotage.

Tulisa's a hard face little madam, and she's actually being pretty stupid about this. Whilst her fans will cheer her feisty personality, "ya guy, big up da female boss, Tulisa is repping her endz innit,ya git me and keepin' it real " and other such meaningless tosh, what she is actually doing is just showing that she is a rather immature, vindictive young woman, with a piss poor knowledge of musical genres outside of the faux "urban"rubbish her band peddles.”

You have hit the nail on the head. Tulisa will never be the real deal she will always be a try-hard urban act. I think there is an element of bitterness towards Misha, her fellow girls are also showing support.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/...e-habibis.html
Eve Elle
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Smithy57:
“Where has Misha ever said "I AM a bully. I DID bully other acts on the show"

She hasn't. But let's not let the facts get in the way of a personal attack based on your own narrow tastes, eh?”

Durrr, she gave an interview to the Mirror where she openly admitted to bullying children in her school.

And please do not infer that I lie when clearly I do not.
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