.. or as Blackadder would say the collection of soft dangly bits in his trousers...

Actually "what it's about" is a festival practically unknown in this country a couple of decades ago, until the retailer sector discovered what they did with it in the USA and decided they'd sell it to the British public and get parents to buy all sorts of tat for their kids and at which it has been very successful.

No one has yet convinced me how the "crotch thrust" was an essential part of the so called "tradition" of Halloween, let alone a dance.

You know what, you're right, I can't be "bovered" either.

exactly, plenty of people would have seen the routine at rehearsals so I'm sure the producers must have thought that it would good for the ratings


every week we see half-dressed females on this show - celebrities and professionals - and there's also that camera at the top of the stairs on "cleavage watch" which really annoys me, surely there's no need to film the couple running up the stairs

am a Robbie fan and find him very attractive but maybe this was a thrust too far

I agree 100% with this. I 'adore' Robbie but that routine was just awful. Ola living out a fantasy perhaps? I really don't like it at all. If that makes me a prude, so be it. I'd rather be a prude with moral standards than standards from a dubious level.

- I, too.

Good for you. The word "prude" has been bandied about far too much for my liking. I must also say, this thread is so much better today, so much so that I've been tempted back in.....oh hang on, the kids are all back at school aren't they?

Maybe we should reclaim the word 'prude' to stand for people who do not have gutter instincts

Then again, I can remember Sir Cliff wasn't above a bit of thrusting in his youth

Maybe women have changed?

Put it this way, "Keeeeep thrustin" won't work as it will lose Robbie quite a few votes if it ever happens again.

Once is enough, as they say.

Looked more like coq au main to me

maybe you don't remember but, when Elvis first appeared on the scene, he could only be filmed from the waist up because his gyrations weren't suitable to be seen by the the general public ... how times change ..... have to admit that I was impressed by Robbie's leap onto the desk

No, I don't remember that but I have heard that Cliff sort of mimicked Elvis' style.

I was impressed by the leap - that could've gone so wrong! I understand that maybe Ola is using Robbie's sex appeal to cover up for what he lacks in dance skill but surely there's a different type of camouflage!

I think his little backstage diva strop will do that. Very unsavoury. You're a crap dancer, you got a 4 from Craig, deal with it!

I went on the SCD Ola and Robbie official blog pages this morning and there were about 30+ comments about his unsavoury actions on Saturday. Most of them were negative (I posted a negative myself - not nasty just negative). I have just had another look and their blog seems to have been removed.

Technically coq a la main but I know it doesn't really work as a pun if you're pedantic about it.

Damned funny!

I feel just the same !!

Sorry, not true! I like Robbie (apart from his backstage rant). It IS purely a moral argument. In previous posts I've said that I work with young children and it is purely my concern for what all this does to them, how they dress, how they dance and behave inappropriately at a very young age etc etc. I know they don't understand what they're doing, but it is very sad that they are not protected till they're older.

It's still there at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...avage-an.shtml

it's not showing on the list at the bottom of the page as there's been no recent comments.

I'd have definitely preferred him not to have done the thrusts, regardless of the fact that there's several in the Michael Jackson video - fortunately he's dancing the waltz on Saturday

(incidently there's a number of pro-clutch comments on his Facebook page)

I have just read that someone phoned the bbc complaints department to complain and were told that there have been a lot of calls.

Waitrose shoppers please note this is not the same as

Coq au vein

well maybe that is your problem

as someone who has had a family I dont think the crotch thrusting is contaminating any more than a lot of the other themes of the night

It is up to paents to ensure that their children know what is suitable for where and have a sense of humour about it

Again I would have more beleif in your maral indignation if it were about everything on the whole night that could have had a a "bad" effet on kids but why single out just one thing

I think it was just completely tacky choreography.

......and why did Ola think that just because Craig is gay he would welcome Robbie thrusting his groin at him.

He obviously didn't!!

You've all got the wrong idea. He clutched his crotch because mummy Ola had taken him round the shops all day for Halloween costumes and he was bursting to weewee.

Brilliant!


Well, this Waitrose shopper knows the difference between coq au vin and coq à la main (if there were such a thing) and also how to spell them...

Absolutely hated that dance, on a number of levels. Paso strutting has been done to death already (yawn); his arms were stiff and gawky; you could practically see him counting steps in his head; and the crotch thrusts were simply unnecessary. Nothing else in the routine looked in the least bit like Michael Jackson dancing, so why introduce such a move?

I don't know about children being traumatised by it; I doubt it would have bothered my kids when they were younger, as they would just have seen some bloke mucking about with his willy. I mean, for a child, a willy is for pee-ing and has no sexual connotation, so how would or could that be traumatic?

It was over-done though - I just checked the Bad video, and Michael Jackson grabbed his own crotch four times during a routine that is three times as long as Robbie & Ola's dance. Erm, maths isn't my strong point, but one bit of unnecessary crotch-grabbing would have been quite enough. And leaping on to the judges' table to thrust his dangly bits at Craig was - there is no other word - offensive. It was specifically designed to be offensive, after all.

So I'm not worried about traumatising ickle kiddies, but there will be even more complaints to the Beeb when the nation's youth try this move out on their teacher's desk in primary schools up and down the country...