I don't think it would be very tasteful to have vampires, zombies and monsters wearing poppies considering they're representing the dead. It seems a bit hypocritical to say the least - let's remember those who died in the war...now time for the undead doing a tango.
Where are the poppies?
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Well said, Fudd.
There used to be a convention that poppies weren't worn until the 1st of November (Toussaint or All Saints day in the Catholic calendar) which is the day for remembering / honouring the dead. They are then worn up to and including 11th November.
Nowadays there almost seems to be a competition (on tv, I've not noticed it in offices, etc) as to who is the first person or the first show to be seen wearing poppies. And I sometimes sense a degree of sanctimoniousness about commenting on who does / does not wear poppies that is, at least in my opinion, rather unpleasant.
There used to be a convention that poppies weren't worn until the 1st of November (Toussaint or All Saints day in the Catholic calendar) which is the day for remembering / honouring the dead. They are then worn up to and including 11th November.
Nowadays there almost seems to be a competition (on tv, I've not noticed it in offices, etc) as to who is the first person or the first show to be seen wearing poppies. And I sometimes sense a degree of sanctimoniousness about commenting on who does / does not wear poppies that is, at least in my opinion, rather unpleasant.
Thank goodness nobody was wearing a poppy. It does my head in when people wear them from they first appear in the shops until the last gasp.
It would have looked so inappropriate to wear them with those costumes, and I think the week of Remembrance Sunday is time enough.
I am very against the notion of making people wear a poppy. Not everyone wants to, and I thought people died to make this a free country. In Northern Ireland, however, due to the prejudice of certain numpties, I feel iffy about wearing my poppy in the streets, because it is seen as a "loyalist symbol". *rolls eyes*.
It would have looked so inappropriate to wear them with those costumes, and I think the week of Remembrance Sunday is time enough.
I am very against the notion of making people wear a poppy. Not everyone wants to, and I thought people died to make this a free country. In Northern Ireland, however, due to the prejudice of certain numpties, I feel iffy about wearing my poppy in the streets, because it is seen as a "loyalist symbol". *rolls eyes*.
Originally Posted by reclinewithme:
“'Have to wear them' - says it all”
“'Have to wear them' - says it all”
Not really.
From The Editors blog, 2006:
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“As far as the BBC is concerned, presenters or reporters appearing on television can wear poppies if they want to. There is no rule that tells them they must do so. It is a matter of individual choice. The BBC does give some guidance on when to wear them, so that we can have some sort of uniformity on screen, though there is some flexibility in that too. We suggest starting to wear poppies a couple of weeks before Remembrance Sunday. That's roughly when the Royal British Legion officially starts selling them.”
“As far as the BBC is concerned, presenters or reporters appearing on television can wear poppies if they want to. There is no rule that tells them they must do so. It is a matter of individual choice. The BBC does give some guidance on when to wear them, so that we can have some sort of uniformity on screen, though there is some flexibility in that too. We suggest starting to wear poppies a couple of weeks before Remembrance Sunday. That's roughly when the Royal British Legion officially starts selling them.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor...resenters.html
And from the Telegraph in 2009:
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“The BBC’s internal newspaper gave a reminder to staff that "editorial policy has agreed dates for when people can wear poppies on screen". This year the dates are from 6am on October 24 until 11.59pm on Wednesday November 11.
Studio guests are often asked to wear a poppy if they are going on-air.
A BBC spokeswoman denied that there was an “editorial policy”.
She said: “As always it is down to the individual presenter to decide if they want to wear a poppy or not. The majority of presenters choose to wear a poppy and they are worn by presenters from the 24.10.09 to 11.11.09.”
A spokesman from the British Legion said wearing the poppy was about remembering the war dead and it was not a “competition” to wear it at the earliest opportunity.
He said: “It’s not about ‘competitive poppy wearing’, it’s an individual choice and anyone who wears the poppy will be gladly recognised by the Legion. We aim to raise £31.5 million this year.”
There has been criticism that poppies are being worn earlier each year.
John Whittingdale, the chairman of the Commons culture, media and sport select committee, said: “It does get earlier, like putting up Christmas decorations and it does make it sensible to have an agreed date. The BBC is paid for by licence fee payers and people expect news presenters to wear the poppy.””
“The BBC’s internal newspaper gave a reminder to staff that "editorial policy has agreed dates for when people can wear poppies on screen". This year the dates are from 6am on October 24 until 11.59pm on Wednesday November 11.
Studio guests are often asked to wear a poppy if they are going on-air.
A BBC spokeswoman denied that there was an “editorial policy”.
She said: “As always it is down to the individual presenter to decide if they want to wear a poppy or not. The majority of presenters choose to wear a poppy and they are worn by presenters from the 24.10.09 to 11.11.09.”
A spokesman from the British Legion said wearing the poppy was about remembering the war dead and it was not a “competition” to wear it at the earliest opportunity.
He said: “It’s not about ‘competitive poppy wearing’, it’s an individual choice and anyone who wears the poppy will be gladly recognised by the Legion. We aim to raise £31.5 million this year.”
There has been criticism that poppies are being worn earlier each year.
John Whittingdale, the chairman of the Commons culture, media and sport select committee, said: “It does get earlier, like putting up Christmas decorations and it does make it sensible to have an agreed date. The BBC is paid for by licence fee payers and people expect news presenters to wear the poppy.””
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...y-wearing.html
From Monday 28th to Wed 30th poppies were worn on "it takes 2" then they just disappeared smacks of an instruction given not to ware them even if the dancers didnt ware them where were the judges and presenters or even the audience?
Originally Posted by TheJazzman:
“The poppies for this years Remembrance Day has been launched, so why wasn't anyone on the programme wearing one?”
“The poppies for this years Remembrance Day has been launched, so why wasn't anyone on the programme wearing one?”
That is a very good question, thank you.
Originally Posted by paulwj:
“From Monday 28th to Wed 30th poppies were worn on "it takes 2" then they just disappeared smacks of an instruction given not to ware them even if the dancers didnt ware them where were the judges and presenters or even the audience?”
“From Monday 28th to Wed 30th poppies were worn on "it takes 2" then they just disappeared smacks of an instruction given not to ware them even if the dancers didnt ware them where were the judges and presenters or even the audience?”
Because people playing corpses/ghosts wearing poppies would look silly to say the very least? Not to mention disrespectful.
There is a week to go and another show before Remembrance day, plenty of time to "encourage" everyone to wear a poppy.
Besides they would probably look stupid with the halloween costumes.
Besides they would probably look stupid with the halloween costumes.
Originally Posted by paulwj:
“From Monday 28th to Wed 30th poppies were worn on "it takes 2" then they just disappeared smacks of an instruction given not to ware them even if the dancers didnt ware them where were the judges and presenters or even the audience?”
“From Monday 28th to Wed 30th poppies were worn on "it takes 2" then they just disappeared smacks of an instruction given not to ware them even if the dancers didnt ware them where were the judges and presenters or even the audience?”
I would imagine it was so that they didn't have Hallowe'en and Poppies on the same shows - Thursday and Friday ITT were very Hallowe'en orientated and the two things don't really go! I expect they'll be back next week and on the show next weekend - as long as the dancers have a top on so that they have something to pin them to (Artem, I'm looking at you
)
I'm pretty sure there were poppies on ITT. I agree wearing of poppies would have been incongruous with the Halloween theme.
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“There is a week to go and another show before Remembrance day, plenty of time to "encourage" everyone to wear a poppy.
Besides they would probably look stupid with the halloween costumes.”
“There is a week to go and another show before Remembrance day, plenty of time to "encourage" everyone to wear a poppy.
Besides they would probably look stupid with the halloween costumes.”
The etiquette for the poppies is to ware them two weeks before the 11th of November
But also as I said why wern't the judges and presenters waring them or as everyone says it's their choice you can't expect us to believe everyone even the audience didnt want to ware even one
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I think it would have been very tasteless to have them there in a show dedicated to Halloween
Why not give the wearing of poppies dignity like the soldiers whom they are there to remind us about.
I find this thread really quite tasteless . If the poppies mean anything they are worn voluntarily and in remembence for those who have given their lives, they are not there to be worn by scarecrows and astronaughts
Why not give the wearing of poppies dignity like the soldiers whom they are there to remind us about.
I find this thread really quite tasteless . If the poppies mean anything they are worn voluntarily and in remembence for those who have given their lives, they are not there to be worn by scarecrows and astronaughts
Dos and don'ts of poppy etiquette
Hardly a surprise if the Royal British Legion want to sell them.
Quote:
“3. When to start wearing one? It's a hotly debated question. Many people think poppies should be worn from 1 November until Armistice Day on 11 November. Others pin one on only in the week running up to Remembrance Sunday - 8 November this year. The Royal British Legion spokesman says they can be worn from the launch of the poppy appeal, which this year was 22 October. Organisations like the BBC usually choose a day for presenters to start wearing one. This year it was from 6am on 24 October.”
“3. When to start wearing one? It's a hotly debated question. Many people think poppies should be worn from 1 November until Armistice Day on 11 November. Others pin one on only in the week running up to Remembrance Sunday - 8 November this year. The Royal British Legion spokesman says they can be worn from the launch of the poppy appeal, which this year was 22 October. Organisations like the BBC usually choose a day for presenters to start wearing one. This year it was from 6am on 24 October.”
Hardly a surprise if the Royal British Legion want to sell them.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Because people playing corpses/ghosts wearing poppies would look silly to say the very least? Not to mention disrespectful.”
“Because people playing corpses/ghosts wearing poppies would look silly to say the very least? Not to mention disrespectful.”
I had overlooked that, I thought it was because there are two shows before Remembrance Day so left for the nearest but it would have been bad taste in the Halloween programme with all the costumes used.
Poppies are to be worn on Remembrance Sunday, I see no reason to wear one 3 weeks beforehand. IIRC, Matt Baker was wearing one on Countryfile at the beginning of October. :yawn:
I think it's totally wrong to force contestants or judges to wear poppies. It's a matter of personal opinion - and some people, myself included, don't want to see reminders of disgusting wars where millions were killed thrust in our faces. So there.
Originally Posted by HHGTTG:
“Oh dear, Poppy fascism has reached here now, has it?”
“Oh dear, Poppy fascism has reached here now, has it?”
It's the poppicy of poppeasement. Sir Treville Bumblelame waved it at the battle of Bratwürst and said it would be the end of all wars.
Originally Posted by rosco2010:
“Poppies are to be worn on Remembrance Sunday, I see no reason to wear one 3 weeks beforehand. IIRC, Matt Baker was wearing one on Countryfile at the beginning of October. :yawn:”
“Poppies are to be worn on Remembrance Sunday, I see no reason to wear one 3 weeks beforehand. IIRC, Matt Baker was wearing one on Countryfile at the beginning of October. :yawn:”
It would have been recorded some time before that and they might not have been sure of the transmission date.
Originally Posted by Sheikaman:
“I think it's totally wrong to force contestants or judges to wear poppies. It's a matter of personal opinion - and some people, myself included, don't want to see reminders of disgusting wars where millions were killed thrust in our faces. So there.”
“I think it's totally wrong to force contestants or judges to wear poppies. It's a matter of personal opinion - and some people, myself included, don't want to see reminders of disgusting wars where millions were killed thrust in our faces. So there.”
Are they forced?
Never seen anything to suggest that any of them did not want to wear poppies.
I think a lot of people on TV wear poppies to get some kind of "kudos". The pressure when it comes to wearing poppies is disgraceful. If someone doesn't want to wear one, then there is nothing wrong with that.
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“That is a very good question, thank you.”
“That is a very good question, thank you.”
Joining in the resurrection of a 2 year old thread?
Seeing that it has been done, I'll add my two penneth:
Poppies are for Remenbrance not for a political statement, I have no doubt that there will be poppies worn on the Saturday closest to 11/11 which is the correct time to wear them IMO.
If you feel the need to wear them at any other time, that's your choice and good luck to you. The impact is less the more you see them, familiarity breeds contempt and all that............
I thin k it would be in bad taste to wear the poppies on the same occasion as Hallowe'en! They will no doubt wear them this weekend.
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