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Spoiler Thread for The Young Apprentice
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TXF0429
22-11-2011
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Don´t have access to the UK previews, I have to wait till it appears on youtube (but you are probably right).”

I have looked again at the spoilers in the starting titles and next week's preview and it is definitely Haya with the balloons. (She says "Come on James", meaning I'm certain its from next week)

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Good thinking.

First of all, I agree with you about the PM´s next week (if the spoiler from earlier today is correct, then we might also know which PM loses, though there is still one task between this and the final).

The confusing thing for me is the clip of Harry H and his girls, as I thought that it wasn´t lifted from today´s episode (and the number of people on that team would mean it HAS to come from next week´s episode and they usually confer in such a room for that task).”

There are several new videos from the starting titles, but most appear to be from next week:

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1. Haya with James and the balloons
2. Harry H shaking his hand with someone (also seen on the preview for next week)
3. Haya and James negotiating in a Jewelers
4. Haya and James finishing off another negotiation in what appears to be a hardware store
5. Harry M telling James off (from this week so its happened)
6. Harry M and Lizzie shaking the hand of someone (presumably from next week, but could be after)
7. Harry M and James laughing next to a camera (I don't know if we've already seen this)
8. Harry H saying "God, this is difficult" (Again, it could have been shown before, I don't remember. If not, I'm guessing next week as he seems to be alone)

All other clips we have seen before i.e. milk mix going on James's foot, the set of the advert falling down etc.
TXF0429
22-11-2011
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“The confusing thing for me is the clip of Harry H and his girls, as I thought that it wasn´t lifted from today´s episode (and the number of people on that team would mean it HAS to come from next week´s episode and they usually confer in such a room for that task).”

Sorry for the double-post, but I had left it too late to edit my post. If you are referring to a potential clip with Zara, Harry H and Lizzie in a car together, then the three of them must survive next week as they are all in three different groups, meaning that they can't all be in the same team. This is if you are sure that it wasn't from Task 4, the only occasion where they have all been together in a task.
The problem was that Zara, Harry H and Lizzie were looking at the same products on that task, so it is likely that it is from Week 4.

Something else is bugging me. We have two weeks left before the final, but 7 candidates. If Lord Sugar wants a four-man final like last year, surely he needs a double firing in the next two weeks?
Sherlock_Holmes
22-11-2011
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Sorry for the double-post, but I had left it too late to edit my post. If you are referring to a potential clip with Zara, Harry H and Lizzie in a car together, then the three of them must survive next week as they are all in three different groups, meaning that they can't all be in the same team. This is if you are sure that it wasn't from Task 4, the only occasion where they have all been together in a task.
The problem was that Zara, Harry H and Lizzie were looking at the same products on that task, so it is likely that it is from Week 4.”

No, not that clip (which was obviously from week 4). The clip with Harry H and Haya, Zara and Hayley in some small conference room. That clip must have happened in last nights episode, as there is another team shake up next week.


Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Something else is bugging me. We have two weeks left before the final, but 7 candidates. If Lord Sugar wants a four-man final like last year, surely he needs a double firing in the next two weeks?”

The Radio Times listing for the 5th of December explains it all:

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7/8. The six remaining candidates are challenged to create a brand of popcorn, but the pressure is on when Alan Sugar reveals only two contestants will progress to the final. The young entrepreneurs try to impress an airline, a cinema chain and a supermarket, before learning which four will receive their marching orders in the boardroom.


A real shame, liked it better last year (for this version it worked well, not so much for the normal apprentice). Seems like the people in the final will be easy to predict based on that.

Also an unique way of dealing with matters, as he has never done anything like this before (in terms of actual tasks before the final, not interview style).

Makes next week even more important to survive for the status of the young apprentices.

Based on his finger in the preview my guess would be that he fires the candidate
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sitting on his left, if correct that would mean that the PM´s are safe. The person on his right is definitely safe
TXF0429
22-11-2011
Spoiler
^ I'm sure that Harry H is a PM, as he's on his own and on these tasks, it would make sense for a PM to be on his own. And Lizzie would make sense as the other one, so those two appear to be safe.


Hmm... I did prefer the way they did the final last year, but agree that it didn't work on the real Apprentice. Though, maybe I didn't like it because the vile Alex and Helene were in that final...
Kyle123
22-11-2011
I don't like the sound of four people getting fired on the back of a task.
Sherlock_Holmes
23-11-2011
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“I don't like the sound of four people getting fired on the back of a task. ”

Which also means that both teams will be brought back into the final boardroom (so, no winner on the task!).
TXF0429
28-11-2011
Damn! Got the teams wrong:

Atomic: Lizzie (PM), Harry M, Zara, Hayley
Kinetic: Haya (PM), James, Harry H

Got Lizzie right as PM, but Haya's PM following Harry H's deliberation.

Surely Atomic must win? They have better candidates...
Sherlock_Holmes
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Surely Atomic must win? They have better candidates...”

Wrong

Luckily, I was right about the person getting fired (though I did think for a moment that Lizzie had it, when the boardmembers all started ganging up on her).

Format for next week is still a bit unclear, but I will make a blind stab at it and guess that the winning team gets to go to the final boardroom were one member of that team gets the boot (to leave a two person final).

The teams will be

Spoiler

Atomic: Lizzie, Harry M, Harry H

Kinetic: Haya, Zara, James


The team member in bold are the ones that I think will be fired if their team loses. This is based on a spoiler earlier in this thread (at least for team Atomic).

Sadly, I think that team Kinetic will win the task (and if that other spoiler in the same spoilerpost rings true, then we will know who will win this series).
TXF0429
28-11-2011
Shame about Hayley, she was one of my early favourites, but not suited for the business environment I think.

Right next week:

Spoiler
Not sure how they are going to play it. My guess would be the losing team gets fired automatically and two people from the winning team are put forward to the final.

Otherwise, there could be no winner of the task and a candidate per team gets fired. However, Harry M said in the preview "You may have just fired us all". This really makes me think it is the former and this prediction works on the assumption that the losing team get fired automatically.

Luckily, the preview showed us the teams and PMs (though I'm not sure about Kinetic's PM)

Atomic: Harry H (PM), Harry M, Lizzie
Kinetic: James (PM), Haya, Zara

I think James was the PM for Kinetic, but it could be Zara (I doubt its Haya after her PM this week)

I'm not sure who wins. It seems like Lord Sugar can just pick his favourite. If this is the case, then I think that Atomic will win, leaving Zara, Haya and James fired. Then, I think Lizzie and Harry H will be sent through to the final as they have been the better candidates across the 7 weeks. My guess would be that Lizzie will get hired ultimately.

So, my guess is:

Atomic: Harry H (PM), Harry M, Lizzie
Kinetic: James (PM), Haya, Zara

Atomic win. All of Kinetic fired. Harry H and Lizzie sent through to the final - Harry M fired.
But the last part is just guesswork.


^

Sherlock, I really distrust that spoiler. He said that Hayley would win and she obviously got fired. I agree that Haya will get fired if Kinetic win, but I reckon Harry M will get fired if Atomic win due to his poor record and the fact that Harry H has had 4 consecutive victories since Week 2 (5 consecutive victories if he wins next week!).
Sherlock_Holmes
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Sherlock, I really distrust that spoiler. He said that Hayley would win and she obviously got fired.”

The Hayley mention looked more like a guess to me.

Anyway, I can´t see Lizzie winning over Harry H, besides my guess is for the other team anyway.
TXF0429
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“The Hayley mention looked more like a guess to me.

Anyway, I can´t see Lizzie winning over Harry H, besides my guess is for the other team anyway.”

Even if it was a guess, there is no source and no evidence. If the poster had history of being right about spoilers I'd be more inclined to believe him, but I just don't think we should take one source as basis of who will get to the final. I think, though that LS will want a boy/girl final and that will be Lizzie/Harry H imo.

I think that Atomic will win, but it may be because I'm biased (I want Harry H to win!)

We have no spoilers whatsoever beyond next week, so I think that it just comes down to judgement.
Darcyprincess
29-11-2011
I think that Zara and Haya are the strongest for the girls. I cannot believe that Lizzie did not bring Harry in with her this week. He had a big chance of going because he has been in the losing team all of the 6 weeks and was on his last warning last week!

I think that the other Harry and James are strong along with Zara and Haya, so it will be a good final! If I was picking one girl and one boy it would be Zara and James. But I do think that Harry is strong too. (Not the Harry that has been in the losing team 6 times)
Rupee92
29-11-2011
Im 100% sure on the Harry H and female winner spoiler. It was merely a guess by me about Hayley (because i dont belive Zara can win and id not thought much to Lizzie or Haya at the time).

I think fired next week will more than likely be
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Lizzie
Harry H
Harry M
James


Leaving a final of
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Haya V Zara. With Haya winning.
TheAuburnEnigma
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Rupee92:
“Im 100% sure on the Harry H and female winner spoiler. It was merely a guess by me about Hayley (because i dont belive Zara can win and id not thought much to Lizzie or Haya at the time).

I think fired next week will more than likely be
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Lizzie
Harry H
Harry M
James


Leaving a final of
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Haya V Zara. With Haya winning.
”

Where did you hear that spoiler then Rupee?

Hmm this would be my guess as I don't think it will end up being an all-girl final:

If Atomic win:

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I doubt Harry H as PM would be fired unless the other 2 gang up on him in the boardroom over something, and I really cannot see Lizzie doing that. So for me, Harry M would be fired leaving a Harry H/Lizzie final (if the finger point is of any relevance it was someone on this team, and it wasn't far out enough to be Lizzie so one of the 2 boys)


If Kinetic win:

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Again, cannot see the PM getting fired unless something happens. At the moment it looks as though James might be PM. Out of the 2 girls, I can actually see Zara being eliminated. She has made a fair few bad decisions ("the baby", the pricing in the flower task, tonight) whereas Haya hasn't made too many mistakes so far. So Zara going leaving a James v Haya final.
Rupee92
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“Where did you hear that spoiler then Rupee?

Hmm this would be my guess as I don't think it will end up being an all-girl final:

If Atomic win:

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I doubt Harry H as PM would be fired unless the other 2 gang up on him in the boardroom over something, and I really cannot see Lizzie doing that. So for me, Harry M would be fired leaving a Harry H/Lizzie final (if the finger point is of any relevance it was someone on this team, and it wasn't far out enough to be Lizzie so one of the 2 boys)


If Kinetic win:

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Again, cannot see the PM getting fired unless something happens. At the moment it looks as though James might be PM. Out of the 2 girls, I can actually see Zara being eliminated. She has made a fair few bad decisions ("the baby", the pricing in the flower task, tonight) whereas Haya hasn't made too many mistakes so far. So Zara going leaving a James v Haya final.
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Just from a mate who is a real Apprentice boffin, He's constantly trying to dig out information on the show. Hes pretty adament on Harry H and Female winner. I believe him.

As for your spoiler
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I honestly cant see anyway that James can make the final. Get the feeling Sugar has wanted to fire him a few times but there has always been one person whos performed worse.


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I cant see Sugar firing Harry H if he wins the task either so kinetic must win.


We'll all find out soon enough
Kyle123
29-11-2011
Zara does seem to have fallen into the over domineering female, who makes it to the end, but just misses out at the final hurdle. I'd write her off completely, but it's pretty hard to tell who else could win.

For me, Harry H. doesn't feel like a winner. He kind of reminds me of Howard, who everyone assumed was heading to the final partially through lack of better option, but misses out near the end. If he is the winner, they haven't highlighted him that well.

The others are all pretty flawed. I don't think Haya is particularly favored by Sugs, Nick and Karren, and James seems to be getting by without ever doing anything that impressive. Harry M. is being kept on mostly for story purposes - there's no way they could justify the boy who lost 6 in a row winning. Other than that, there's just Lizzie, who I guess could win, but I've never got the sense that she's ever overly impressed in any of the tasks.
TheAuburnEnigma
05-12-2011
Teams for tonight confirmed by the article on The Sun website:

Spoiler
Atomic: Harry H (PM), Harry M, Lizzie
Kinetic: James, Haya, Zara - not sure on PM but it looks as though Zara is alone, so I think it won't be her


Other things confirmed:

Spoiler
Team Atomic go for an American-based popcorn, whilst Team Kinetic go for a Mediterranean style, with feta, chorizo and olive flavours.

Harry M clashes with Harry H tonight


Somehow with that one ^^ I cannot see LS going for Kinetic, based on their product.
AA2009
05-12-2011
The Sun article makes it sound like the team who bicker and fight all get fired...
bexmil89
05-12-2011
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“Teams for tonight confirmed by the article on The Sun website:

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Atomic: Harry H (PM), Harry M, Lizzie
Kinetic: James, Haya, Zara - not sure on PM but it looks as though Zara is alone, so I think it won't be her


Other things confirmed:

Spoiler
Team Atomic go for an American-based popcorn, whilst Team Kinetic go for a Mediterranean style, with feta, chorizo and olive flavours.

Harry M clashes with Harry H tonight


Somehow with that one ^^ I cannot see LS going for Kinetic, based on their product.”


Team Kinetic's idea for popcorn sounds awful!
TheAuburnEnigma
05-12-2011
Originally Posted by bexmil89:
“Team Kinetic's idea for popcorn sounds awful!”

I know, I really don't see that selling well at all. I'm guessing it'll be Haya's idea for some reason....
TXF0429
05-12-2011
Originally Posted by Rupee92:
“Just from a mate who is a real Apprentice boffin, He's constantly trying to dig out information on the show. Hes pretty adament on Harry H and Female winner. I believe him.

As for your spoiler
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I honestly cant see anyway that James can make the final. Get the feeling Sugar has wanted to fire him a few times but there has always been one person whos performed worse.


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I cant see Sugar firing Harry H if he wins the task either so kinetic must win.


We'll all find out soon enough ”

Well done Rupee, I didn't think your spoiler was legitimate, but you've got two parts right, so fair enough.

Does this mean that
Spoiler
Zara
wins next week?
TheAuburnEnigma
05-12-2011
Really annoyed with that result.

The flavour of La Popcorn had been pulled up a few times in the show, whereas there weren't really any fundamental flaws with Empire State.

With those kind of tasks I think it's really unfair if one team get orders from all 3 retailers yet the other get 2 and yet they win anyway, imo the product should be able to appeal to everybody and if it doesn't then you haven't been successful.

^^Sorry for that rant

Anyway, I really hope the final part of Rupee's spoiler is wrong, Zara has made a fair few cock-ups this series whereas James hasn't really had much of a hiccup.
Rupee92
05-12-2011
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Well done Rupee, I didn't think your spoiler was legitimate, but you've got two parts right, so fair enough.

Does this mean that
Spoiler
Zara
wins next week?”

Thanks Thought Atomic were gunna win at one point in tonights episode!! Although i wrongly guessed James would be fired.

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My mate was very adament that its a female winner this series so yes, if hes correct (which i have no reason to suspect hes wrong, he really is an apprentice addict haha) then yes Zara will win.
TXF0429
05-12-2011
Originally Posted by Rupee92:
“Thanks Thought Atomic were gunna win at one point in tonights episode!! Although i wrongly guessed James would be fired.

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My mate was very adament that its a female winner this series so yes, if hes correct (which i have no reason to suspect hes wrong, he really is an apprentice addict haha) then yes Zara will win.
”

I thought they were home and dry when Nick said 50,000! I was celebrating, then he said "each" and my heart just plummeted.

Though, with the edit, I did think that Kinetic would win, especially when they read the results and Atomic were waay ahead by the Morrisons result. Results like that always depend on the final number called out.

Tbh, thought that Haya was the obvious one to go if Kinetic lost. Still disappointed because I feel that Harry H is a better candidate than all three of Kinetic, but oh well.
Sherlock_Holmes
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Wrong

Luckily, I was right about the person getting fired (though I did think for a moment that Lizzie had it, when the boardmembers all started ganging up on her).

Format for next week is still a bit unclear, but I will make a blind stab at it and guess that the winning team gets to go to the final boardroom were one member of that team gets the boot (to leave a two person final).

The teams will be

Spoiler

Atomic: Lizzie, Harry M, Harry H

Kinetic: Haya, Zara, James


The team member in bold are the ones that I think will be fired if their team loses. This is based on a spoiler earlier in this thread (at least for team Atomic).

Sadly, I think that team Kinetic will win the task (and if that other spoiler in the same spoilerpost rings true, then we will know who will win this series).”

Again correct (after Melody last time)
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