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Defend Strictly! Daft Telegraph article....
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shortcrust
31-10-2011
There's an article on the telegraph site about Strictly being too vulgar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...oo-vulgar.html

Please take a minute to click 'recommend' on my post (as 'shortcrust') at the end of the article in defence of the show and to vote in the poll which currently has 66% negative votes. At the moment, the top rated comment says it's a vulgar show for vulgar people!

Oooo, I'm cross!!!
Dollystanford
31-10-2011
to be honest though, Telegraph readers are not exactly the Strictly demographic

I wouldn't get too het up about what the DT has to say
RoseAnne
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by shortcrust:
“There's an article on the telegraph site about Strictly being too vulgar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...oo-vulgar.html

Please take a minute to click 'recommend' on my post (as 'shortcrust') at the end of the article in defence of the show and to vote in the poll which currently has 66% negative votes. At the moment, the top rated comment says it's a vulgar show for vulgar people!

Oooo, I'm cross!!!”

Recommended.
lynxmale
31-10-2011
"the BBC has received 80 complaints about the series being "too sexy" "
Stop it Widdy, and get on with your life. Please.
BuddyBontheNet
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“to be honest though, Telegraph readers are not exactly the Strictly demographic

I wouldn't get too het up about what the DT has to say ”

Thank goodness I don't read the DT's comments very often!

I have gone through the comments recommending the ones O agree with (including the OP's)!
SCD-Observer
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“"the BBC has received 80 complaints about the series being "too sexy" "
Stop it Widdy, and get on with your life. Please.”

80 complained about the Dale Farm Panorama docu as well. How many people actually watched SCD compared with the viewers of Panarama? Put things in perspective, innit?
shortcrust
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“to be honest though, Telegraph readers are not exactly the Strictly demographic

I wouldn't get too het up about what the DT has to say ”

I can't help it!! It's my masochistic side. I want to be het up!
Fudd
31-10-2011
I never realised Mary Whitehouse was still alive and kicking.

I'd accept a lot of criticism for Strictly this year but vulgar?! Sexed up slightly maybe but not to the nth degree. The Rumba's been part of the series since the start and it's a "vertical expression of a horizontal act" so...
*stargazer*
31-10-2011
Thought it was unfair of them to mention Chelsee's wardrobe malfunction as if it was somehow deliberate. Poor girl. She was moritified, not that I think she revealed what she thought she did.
BuddyBontheNet
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by shortcrust:
“I can't help it!! It's my masochistic side. I want to be het up!”

Don't ever read the DM's comments or Sky's because you'll blow a fuse!
shortcrust
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Don't ever read the DM's comments or Sky's because you'll blow a fuse! ”

I play a game with a mate of mine to see who can get the most red arrows on the DM's site! Scarily, I often seem to get more green that red half the time.

Too much time on my hands?
lynxmale
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“80 complained about the Dale Farm Panorama docu as well. How many people actually watched SCD compared with the viewers of Panarama? Put things in perspective, innit?”

Certainly does, I won't let any glorified hobos get between me and my dancing again. *settles down to watch 'the best of cats dancing' with a good long straw hat cigar*
BuddyBontheNet
31-10-2011
Originally Posted by shortcrust:
“I play a game with a mate of mine to see who can get the most red arrows on the DM's site! Scarily, I often seem to get more green that red half the time.

Too much time on my hands?”

Yep, sounds like it!
I heart Kelly
01-11-2011
what a bunch of stuck up you know whats!!
SCD-Observer
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“Certainly does, I won't let any glorified hobos get between me and my dancing again. *settles down to watch 'the best of cats dancing' with a good long straw hat cigar*”

Are you speaking German? Can't figure out if you are trying to be sarcastic or 'witty'.
martyboy
01-11-2011
This particular newpaper item was reviewed on Breakfast, Tues am, at 6.20am, by Bill Turnbull and Sian Phillips.

There were some remarks, that I didn't quite catch, about Bill Turnbull and pelvic thrusts, as performed on Saturday by Bobby Savage.

The papers were reviewed again, at 6.50am, and this item was not mentioned.

The 6.50am review did pick up a front page item, in another paper, about Strictly beating the X-factor.

Also note - Nancy and Anton will be on Breakfast, later, Tues am, around 8.50am.
wildwestlady
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by shortcrust:
“There's an article on the telegraph site about Strictly being too vulgar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...oo-vulgar.html

Please take a minute to click 'recommend' on my post (as 'shortcrust') at the end of the article in defence of the show and to vote in the poll which currently has 66% negative votes. At the moment, the top rated comment says it's a vulgar show for vulgar people!

Oooo, I'm cross!!!”

As a Guardian reader, I hate to agree with the Telegraph but sadly I have to say the writer has a point. If not actually vulgar yet, Strictly is well on the way to becoming so. There are many posts on this forum bemoaning the changes in Strictly (lack of dance content, over-use of props, garish and revealing costumes,constant use of pop music inappropriate to the dance, etc etc) which all add up to a coarsening of the original concept and a move downmarket.

Those of us who have watched Strictly from the beginning are immensely saddened by this and regard the victory over The X Factor in the ratings as a very hollow one, merely indicating how steep our beloved programme's slide towards trash TV has become.
Lorelei Lee
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“As a Guardian reader, I hate to agree with the Telegraph but sadly I have to say the writer has a point. If not actually vulgar yet, Strictly is well on the way to becoming so. There are many posts on this forum bemoaning the changes in Strictly (lack of dance content, over-use of props, garish and revealing costumes,constant use of pop music inappropriate to the dance, etc etc) which all add up to a coarsening of the original concept and a move downmarket.

Those of us who have watched Strictly from the beginning are immensely saddened by this and regard the victory over The X Factor in the ratings as a very hollow one, merely indicating how steep our beloved programme's slide towards trash TV has become.”

You are Anita Singh and I claim my £5

I'm not sure if you've linked to the original article there OP? I can't see a mention of it being a 'vulgar show for vulgar people'. In fact, I can't see any opinion from the paper at all. It's simply a list of DT reader comments.

How many articles have we read about the producers fighting against 'sleazy' choreography and asking the pros to tone it down? They are clearly mindful of the audience and if 267 people out of 11 million viewers or whatever it was on Saturday can't take a bit of MJ-style thrusting, it's hardly the show's fault.

Actually, to those who spend time moaning about what SCD has 'become' on this forum, I'd say why not try the DT boards instead? You're clearly going to get more sympathy for your views over there than from the majority on here.
jjackson42
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“ There are many posts on this forum bemoaning the changes in Strictly (lack of dance content, over-use of props, garish and revealing costumes,constant use of pop music inappropriate to the dance, etc etc) which all add up to a coarsening of the original concept and a move downmarket.

Those of us who have watched Strictly from the beginning are immensely saddened by this and regard the victory over The X Factor in the ratings as a very hollow one, merely indicating how steep our beloved programme's slide towards trash TV has become.”

Largely agree!!! To précis a little:

More dance - less faffin abaht!!!

JJ (ever hopeful)
Ignazio
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by shortcrust:
“There's an article on the telegraph site about Strictly being too vulgar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...oo-vulgar.html

Please take a minute to click 'recommend' on my post (as 'shortcrust') at the end of the article in defence of the show and to vote in the poll which currently has 66% negative votes. At the moment, the top rated comment says it's a vulgar show for vulgar people!

Oooo, I'm cross!!!”

I probably shouldn't comment without reading the article - but I'm going to do so anyway.

I don't consider the whole programme vulgar - but when I compare some recent costumes and routines to the earlier series I see that a lot of gratuitous vulgarity has crept in - especially considering Robbie's antics on Saturday night (shame on Ola for including that in her choreo.)

My favourite choreographer Natalie seems able to arrange some beautiful routines without resorting to unsavoury content.

As for wardrobe - we'll be seeing the dance of the seven handkerchiefs soon!

It should be remembered that many young children are enthusiastic SCD fans and some of these moves make unsuitable viewing for youngsters.
Noone
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“As a Guardian reader, I hate to agree with the Telegraph but sadly I have to say the writer has a point. If not actually vulgar yet, Strictly is well on the way to becoming so. There are many posts on this forum bemoaning the changes in Strictly (lack of dance content, over-use of props, garish and revealing costumes,constant use of pop music inappropriate to the dance, etc etc) which all add up to a coarsening of the original concept and a move downmarket.

Those of us who have watched Strictly from the beginning are immensely saddened by this and regard the victory over The X Factor in the ratings as a very hollow one, merely indicating how steep our beloved programme's slide towards trash TV has become.”

Yes, I read the article yesterday and had to agree. I agree with you wildwestlady, you speak wise words.
phoebefair
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“As a Guardian reader, I hate to agree with the Telegraph but sadly I have to say the writer has a point. If not actually vulgar yet, Strictly is well on the way to becoming so. There are many posts on this forum bemoaning the changes in Strictly (lack of dance content, over-use of props, garish and revealing costumes,constant use of pop music inappropriate to the dance, etc etc) which all add up to a coarsening of the original concept and a move downmarket.

Those of us who have watched Strictly from the beginning are immensely saddened by this and regard the victory over The X Factor in the ratings as a very hollow one, merely indicating how steep our beloved programme's slide towards trash TV has become.”

Totally agree. It's becoming a mess - frenetic, puerile and sometimes ugly to watch.
SCD-Observer
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by phoebefair:
“Totally agree. It's becoming a mess - frenetic, puerile and sometimes ugly to watch.”

Like one thread dedicated specially to it, the VTs of the main show are more and more cringe-inducingly ghastly!
peeve
01-11-2011
It was, perhaps, inevitable that a paper like the DT (or the DM or DE) would pick up on the complaints about Robbie's crotch-grabbing to have a dig at the BBC. Nothing their readers like more than fulminating about what 'their' licence fee gets spent on (unless it's immigrants, gays or gypsies, of course ).

Last year, a forum member grumbled that Kartemites were chavs, on the grounds that it was X Factor viewers turning over at the end of their programme who voted for Kara and Artem. We took this as a huge compliment, embraced our chavviness and instituted Chav Friday to celebrate our status.

In a similar vein, I rather like being sneered at by DT readers.

Shortcrust, your post on the DT website is the most recommended of all the comments - be proud.
musicangel
01-11-2011
Actually I agree the routine that ola came up with Robbie, was not for that time on a saturday night, it was just an attempt to gain higher marks from craig and bruno which backfired.
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