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I wonder if they will get rid of Steve Jones for the next series. I bet Simon regrets not giving the job to Dermot. I wonder if he will be offered the second series. That would leave a vacancy for presenter on the main show-probably offer it to Caroline Flack although she might run of with one of the younger male contestants
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19:30- EastEnders: 8.36m (36.4%) Steady night for BBC1 & BBC2 , poor for Imagine & Later Jools Holland though - ought programmes rating like these two be shown on BBC4 & BBC3 respectively. Neither show would rate much worse on a more minor channel - a 10.30 movie on BBC1 would be a nice way to end the evening - I just noticed there was a film on at 11:30 which seems very late for a weeknight movie. It does seem that 50% of viewers have switched off by 10.30, if only BBC2 could negotiate a Best of David Letterman (weekly highlights) to show once per week for an hour say from 11pm-12am.
20:00- Holby City: 5.6m (24.3%) 21:00- Death in Paradise: 5.38m (22%) 22:35- Imagine: 940k (8.5%) BBC Two 19:00- Celebrity Antiques Road Trip: 1.81m (8%) 20:00- James May's Man Lab: 2.00m (8.7%) inc HD 21:00- The Most Courageous Raid of WWII: 1.99m (8.1%) 22:00- Later Live With Jools Holland: 690k (3.5%) |
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X Factor USA has been given a second series.
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NCIS does consistently well to get 19 million week on week, something which I've noticed despite not following American ratings. A 3.9 demo looks very good indeed. Quite surprised to see Glee down to 7.4 million. Wasn't it at 10/11 million last season?
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"Monumental… phenomenal… spectacular… incredible… thrilled… fantastic"
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ABC's 8pm sitcom block is looking worse by the week though. If they don't survive by January, what will happen to the Tuesday block? I think ABC will still put Cougar Town/Apartment 23 at 9pm slot and eventually move them up to 8pm slot in March, when DWTS 14 premieres.
I suspect that Last Man Standing will get a back order and be paired with Work It at 8PM and then Cougar Town and one of Apartment 23 or Happy Endings will air in the 9PM hour. What they do when Dancing returns I don't know although I'd be tempted to have Dancing at 8PM leading into the 9PM comedies. NBC might be able to force their hand on that by announcing they'll air Voice Results shows Tuesday 9PM later in the season. Quote:
I didn't really watch the OC, but people are apparently saying season 3 and 4 sucked so much that they wanted to pretend it never happened. Is that true? Also, I remember The O.C. having to face CSI and Grey's Anatomy (both shows on their peaking seasons, getting 20m every episode) during their fourth season, which ultimately was another factor for their cancellation.
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Fox get (very) overexcited by the season 1 success of The OC and made the rather odd decision to move it to Thursday night. Even now I can't quite work out why they did that (and they did the same thing with Fringe a couple of seasons ago). It backfired horribly although creatively the show did fall apart rather spectacularly which didn't help.
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Hollyoaks did brilliantly on E4 last night with 1.4m (inc +1). That's more than the 1.3m (inc +1) who watched Hollyoaks on C4 half an hour earlier!
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Hollyoaks' renaissance continues then. It's been a remarkable turnaround really considering where we were just 6 months ago. My number of the day would be the 1.41m that sneaked a peek at tonight's Channel 4 episode- seriously impressive. Coupled with its strong demos not far off Emmerdale now amongst 16-34s (ahead if you include C4), the soap looks to be in very good health indeed. Hopefully it can keep the momentum going when the current serial killer storyline reaches its conclusion.
Surprised Tool Academy flopped as badly as it did last night - and don't think Sorority Girls will help it either next week. |
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Big Brother beaten by an episode of Hollyoaks on E4!
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Steady night for BBC1 & BBC2 , poor for Imagine & Later Jools Holland though - ought programmes rating like these two be shown on BBC4 & BBC3 respectively. Neither show would rate much worse on a more minor channel - a 10.30 movie on BBC1 would be a nice way to end the evening - I just noticed there was a film on at 11:30 which seems very late for a weeknight movie. It does seem that 50% of viewers have switched off by 10.30, if only BBC2 could negotiate a Best of David Letterman (weekly highlights) to show once per week for an hour say from 11pm-12am.
The BBC is a public service broadcaster not a commercial TV channel and is not supposed to be as obsessed with ratings as we in this thread all are.
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Steady night for BBC1 & BBC2 , poor for Imagine & Later Jools Holland though - ought programmes rating like these two be shown on BBC4 & BBC3 respectively. Neither show would rate much worse on a more minor channel - a 10.30 movie on BBC1 would be a nice way to end the evening - I just noticed there was a film on at 11:30 which seems very late for a weeknight movie. It does seem that 50% of viewers have switched off by 10.30, if only BBC2 could negotiate a Best of David Letterman (weekly highlights) to show once per week for an hour say from 11pm-12am.
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The BBC is also celebrating 75 years of television today, though only marking it with a brief sting leading into some idents. A shame really they didn't do a season of shows to mark it, even if only on BBC4.
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The BBC is also celebrating 75 years of television today, though only marking it with a brief sting leading into some idents.
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The BBC is also celebrating 75 years of television today, though only marking it with a brief sting leading into some idents. A shame really they didn't do a season of shows to mark it, even if only on BBC4.
http://www.theidentgallery.com/playe...75HELICOPTER-1 7.30 Time to Remember: Stage and Screen. 2/12. The story of a golden age of theatre, cinema and music hall during the 1920s and 30s. (R) [OK not really part of the theme] 8.00 Regional TV: Life Through a Local Lens. Why did we fall in love with regional telly? And does it have a future? (R) 9.00 Imagine: And Then There Was Television A look back at the early days of TV, from Picture Page to the Queen's coronation in 1953. (R) 10.00 The Fools on the Hill Dramatisation of the events surrounding the BBC's opening night in August 1936. (R) 11.15 Demob Happy: How TV Conquered Britain A chronicle of a formative era in British broadcasting following World War II. (R) Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules By the way, BBC1 is dropping A Question of Sport on Friday at 8.30 in favour of a Jimmy Savile tribute. Sky Guide hasn't updated yet to reflect this. Source: http://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/questi...aville_tribute |
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The BBC PR lady being the genius that she is, thinks the BBC is 75 years old, forgetting that the radio service existed before tv.
Phil Vowels on BBC1 doing a good job with the links talking about BBC TV's 75th anniversary. |
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The BBC have a responsibility to show PSB programmes like Imagine on the main channel. If they didn't it would put the whole point of the licence fee into doubt.
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I'm guessing Hollyoaks is getting a boost on E4 partly due to The Big Bang Theory as well? It seems to be putting in massive numbers at 6.30pm. As for X Factor USA being renewed, it's no surprise. And judging by the relative speed with which it happened, I doubt there were any major sticking points in the negotiations. Although I suspect Sony won't put up a $5m prize next year! Numbers-wise, FOX are doing incredibly well so far. But with House down, Terra Nova now in flop territory and Glee stumbling badly, the security offered by X Factor (which has stayed extremely steady) for 3 hours a week must be a massive support to them. Some tweaks for next season, no doubt. As for the whole CBS 2 hour Thursday comedy block, I don't think they should do it next season. Two and a Half Men is going to slide a bit more, IMO. Ashton's character is awful but the main issue is that they're focussing too much on him and Alan (Jon Cryer) and giving too little time to the support cast who always made the show for me. Plus, I don't think it was ever a long term fix. And nobody knows what's happening with How I Met Your Mother. It's a difficult position because while I think they risk over extending themselves on one hand, they also have the issue of not having enough room. A Friday 9pm block with Rules of Engagement and Mike & Molly (very much the second tier comedies, IMO) might work. But politically, they probably don't want to pi*s off Chuck Lorre. So M&M might stay at 9.30pm for the time being. Quote:
I wonder if they will get rid of Steve Jones for the next series. I bet Simon regrets not giving the job to Dermot. I wonder if he will be offered the second series. That would leave a vacancy for presenter on the main show-probably offer it to Caroline Flack although she might run of with one of the younger male contestants
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I didn't really watch the O.C., but people are apparently saying season 3 and 4 sucked so much that they wanted to pretend it never happened. Is that true? Also, I remember The O.C. having to face CSI and Grey's Anatomy (both shows on their peaking seasons, getting 20m every episode) during their fourth season, which ultimately was another factor for their cancellation.
I actually thought season 4 had a lot going for it. Kaitlin was preferable to Marissa. Taylor was a nice addition as well. Unfortunately, they totally screwed up with Summer and the whole hippie thing. Moving to Thursday (for season 3, I think?)certainly didn't help. Although AFAIK, The OC remains the last show to launch in the summer and succeed (it started in August). Serialised dramas seem to have trouble sustaining numbers in the long run. It might be the season lengths - which is perhaps an advantage for cable channels. The CW in particular need to have a big rethink of how they schedule their shows. |
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You'd think really the CW would follow Cables lead and schedule more agressively in the summer when the main networks are slightly less competitive. I'm not saying launch everything there, but I think some series might benefit from being tested in the summer rather than thrown into the mix in the fall.
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No, they shouldn't.
The BBC is a public service broadcaster not a commercial TV channel and is not supposed to be as obsessed with ratings as we in this thread all are.The stand out ratings from last night for me are Death in Paradise , which had great retention from it's opening week, and Hollyoaks on E4 which managed to beat Big Brother. ITV1's flopzone continued as per normal while Channel 5 will bounce back on Tuesday nights once CSI gets some crime drama support around it. |
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You'd think really the CW would follow Cables lead and schedule more agressively in the summer when the main networks are slightly less competitive. I'm not saying launch everything there, but I think some series might benefit from being tested in the summer rather than thrown into the mix in the fall.
Knowing Ostroff's love for Gossip Girl, cable channels similar to The CW's demo, made fun of The CW every time their shows perform better. MTV had The Hills in 2008, which TVbyTN analyzed throughly (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/200...ive-spin/3475/). ABC Family has Secret Life and Pretty Little Liars to rub in CW's face. Now, Switched at Birth is a new hit show for ABCF. With Ostroff's departure, it looks like The CW was ready to fight again. But as you see, The Vampire Diaries aside, no other shows hit above 3m or a full ratings point in A18-49. The CW also announced their midseason schedule today (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...hedule/109422/). The final season of One Tree Hill is facing American Idol. Great Scheduling |
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Yet again on Facebook, status' are all about Frozen Planet. It will get another strong rating. It targets all types of audiences, they must be happy as it does pull in the younger demographic too.
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Excellent for Hollyoaks. The murder storyline is really drawing in the viewers. It must be denting Emmerdale abit too with the first look episodes. Has the E4 showing ever beaten the C4 showing before? Seriously good numbers for a show that looked at deaths door 6 months ago (pun intended
). 71DN boosted slightly for finale, but I'm sure it must be curtains for this show now. Shame, its not a bad show at all IMO. Death In Paradise performed solidly. Will be interesting to see how it holds up against The Jury next week, then IAC - which will surely drag it down quite a lot and it may not recover the the remainder of its run.
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The CW also announced their midseason schedule today (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...hedule/109422/). The final season of One Tree Hill is facing American Idol. Great Scheduling
If they gave it a plum spot, against weaker opposition then what difference would it make? Very little. OTH is not going to pick up many new viewers, as it is in its 9th and final season. The only people watching OTH this season will be the loyal fans, and they would watch it against whatever it came up against, or just record to watch later. |
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Dawn Ostroff really should have gone long ago but the new person in charge does seem to be wanting to make The CW a broader network, it was always funny that the show that were hits were Smallville and Supernatural which were more male oriented. Hart of Dixie seems to be have become a surprise hit compared to the hyped Ringer and Secret Circle. I think they should look at developing more action and supernatural shows as well as comedy and phase out Gossip Girl and 90210. I would exploit the DC Comics connection, a Smallville style Wonder Woman series would have been interesting as would a Batman series although due to the films, Batman is out of bounds.
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I never understand why people would expect channels to put programmes that are on there last season in a great slot. It makes no commerical sense.
If they gave it a plum spot, against weaker opposition then what difference would it make? Very little. OTH is not going to pick up many new viewers, as it is in its 9th and final season. The only people watching OTH this season will be the loyal fans, and they would watch it against whatever it came up against, or just record to watch later. |
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I think Sunday 18th is a possibility, NYD would mean facing Sherlock. ITV1 have Fast Freddie but I think thatll air in the post Christmas week because they're not restricted by news at 10pm.
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Channel 5 had a poor night, but a bit early to be declaring it the new FlopZone I would suggest. It seems at the moment at least to be one or two specific programme titles that are causing the problem, i.e. Superior Interiors which wasn't the hit expected, and more pertinently CSI: Miami which is experiencing serious decline akin to what we've seen in other markets, perhaps exacerbated by the recent success of Death in Paradise and before that The Body Farm. So a bit different to the ITV1 situation where we've seen new show after new show after new show fail just about.
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BBC One at least are still reasonably interested in ratings
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C5's flop zone is 6.30pm-8pm every week night (with occassional exceptions)
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What is amazing is EE on BBC 3 is being beaten by Hollyoaks by over 600k. Also the last few weeks, HO has gained more viewers than EE, where EE just stays around 8 to 8.7 million. I know its a repeat of EE, but the audience is much bigger.
Hollyoaks was getting 700k for channel 4 episodes, just 6 months later, its getting 1.4 for its first look. F**cking brilliant! |
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The BBC is a public service broadcaster not a commercial TV channel and is not supposed to be as obsessed with ratings as we in this thread all are.
). 71DN boosted slightly for finale, but I'm sure it must be curtains for this show now. Shame, its not a bad show at all IMO. Death In Paradise performed solidly. Will be interesting to see how it holds up against The Jury next week, then IAC - which will surely drag it down quite a lot and it may not recover the the remainder of its run.
