Episode 5: 89
Episode 6: 89

That's all I can find at the moment.

Thank you!

Hope IAC achieves over 8 million tonight. Brilliant episode.

Seven
18:00 Seven News: 1.18m
18:30 Sunday Night: 1.22m
19:30 Last in Series: Wild Boys: 860k

Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday: 989k
18:30 Frozen Planet: 1.03m
19:30 60 Minutes: 1.33m
20:30 CSI: 857k

Ten
18:30 Merlin: 776k
19:30 Junior MasterChef: 845k
20:30 Terra Nova: 624k

Shares
Nine: 21.5%
Seven: 20.7%
Ten: 14.2%

I don't watch TXF (I may have mentioned this...), but isn't Rihanna on it virtually every other week?

As well as on everything else?

so when is TEN having its Going Out of Business sale?

It feels like it but it was the first time this series.

They both do it.

Simple rule of thumb people. If they tweet peaks and not averages, they lost. If they don't tweet at all, they lost big!

The X Factor got massive hype last week with the Frankie situation and voting someone back in. Then that led into the following week with the power cut.

Strictly and I'm A Celebrity were getting front page spreads earlier this week which Strictly rarely does. I fully expected it to get over 11m again rather than drop slightly.

I'm A Celeb follows the most watched show of the week, The X Factor results show, so it will definitely do better than last night. I do take trending on Twitter with a large pinch of salt, Children In Need Rocks was trending like mad but only 4m watched. And Garrow's Law was trending too I noticed. Blimey!!

But I do expect I'm A Celebrity to have done well.

Also you really couldn't have watched much BBC as the trailer was on a lot. But the trailer didn't seem to be on anymore than most weeks.

oh for god sakes, this thread is annoying me, Strictly puts on an amazing show, and gets much deserved ratings, and what do we say? well actually its all about publicity, Strictly had alot this week and X-Factor how none, whatever happened to show quality deciding ratings, not publicity.

I dont recall seeing any publicity for either show this week, but the whole argument is stupid anyways, as Strictly is capable of getting strong numbers without the publicity that some apparently crave, and that is apparently the life blood of X-Factor.

Just admit that in a week with little publicity for either show, the better show won.

Anyways why is it left to me, to say, this is a ratings thread, and not a "Fantasy X-Factor Judges" thread, at least the Fantasy Christmas schedules were closer to being on topic.

Why do people get so tetchy regarding discussions that aren't strictly about numbers and percentages? The discussion about X Factor judges is relevant because it's a discussion about what ITV can do with a show that has lost RATINGS. It's no less relevant than those chatting about about how wonderful and brilliant Strictly was last night.

It's those discussions this thread ultimately thrives on and it's what I love reading - and not just about X Factor but so many varied topics that do relate back to ratings in the end.

What's annoying is those who seem intent on derailing the thread because they don't like that particular discussion that's taking place. It's not exactly a hardship to scroll past the posts until you hit upon something you find interesting. Of all the things to get annoyed about...

I agree with both these comments. Why do people give Strictly grudging praise when it does well?

And also discusssing changes to shows is relevant as it effects ratings. I scroll past a lot of the posts if I don't want to read them. But it is all part of the natural flow of conversation.

if we can talk about future X-Factor judges on the grounds that the show has lost ratings, then you open the thread up to all types of soap chat, about what should happen next, based on the fact that ratings are a bit average at the moment, maybe times ive moved a soap related discussion to another part of the forum, to avoid that happening in the thread.

why is it ok for X-Factor but not EastEnders?

infact im going to get dan2008 in the thread at some point tomorrow, and discuss with him at great length, how we would improve EE ratings, after all, you are allowed to do that if its X-Factor, and there is plenty on EastEnders that needs fixing.

Not exactly the same. X Factor is/was the biggest show on TV that has lost ratings from the phenomenal peaks it reached last year. More disconcertingly it's now being beaten by Strictly which it regularly toppled last year with relative ease. It's topical and it's relevant.

EastEnders hasn't experienced anything like that, and in fact appears to have narrowed its gap on Corrie quite substantially over the past couple of years so, whilst you may say the ratings are average, there's nothing I've seen to suggest it's a cause for concern and anything that really requires a discussion in this thread. If you believe the quality has dipped that's another matter, but it hasn't really had an effect on the ratings in the same way as X Factor.

Having said that, I wouldn't object to you discussing EastEnders and I'm sure dan2008 wouldn't take much persuading, it does appear to be his favourite topic of conversation.

Top 10 from the US broadcast networks in total viewers for the whole of 2011 so far without duplicates

1. Super Bowl XLV – 111 million
2. 83rd Academy Awards – 37.90 million
3. American Idol – 29.29 million
3. Two and a Half Men – 28.74
4. NFL Thursday Special (Saints/Packers) – 27.17 million
5. Glee – 26.8 million
6. 2011 Grammy Awards – 26.6 million
7. Sunday Night Football (Cowboys/Jets) – 25.77 million
8. World Series 2011 Game 7 – 25.4 million
9. Dancing with the Stars – 22.86 million
10. NCIS – 22.85 million

The top 10 for the 18-49 demo would likely look slightly different but I don’t have the data for that to hand right now and can’t really be bothered to dig it up (although off the top of my head I'd imagine both Modern Family and The Voice would crack the top 10). The top 10 for the 2011-2012 season so far would look very different (no Super Bowl, Oscars, American Idol, Glee and Grammys plus it would be different episodes of NCIS and Dancing with the Stars).

EDIT - If you limit it to just one standard season NFL game then I believe 2 Broke Girls might take the number 10 spot but I could be wrong on that

as much as I hate to say you have a point, any ratings dip EE is suffering him (due to poor quality) is nothing compared to X-Factors, but still I think the detail people often go into about X-Factor, is not always needed on this thread.

As for dan2008 I think he likes talking about McFly one, but whatever you dont mention Duncan.

AlexiR interesting list, no surprise the Superbowl is at the top, seems shocking it doesn't have either EastEnders or Corrie on it.

Good Lord! That's worse than our Top 10!

Fascinating. Glee will never hit 20m plus viewers ever again.

Andy do you know what time Strictly and X Factor got their peak audiences?

Agreed. Though I'd argue The X Factor lost big last night considering the difference between the two shows last year.


I agree; though I expect Strictly to drop in comparison to the main show. It'll be doing brilliantly if it sees an increase.


The tabloid press.


As cylon said, front page spread for Strictly earlier in the week; The Mirror also has a behind the scenes at Wembley tomorrow I think.

What's worrying for The X Factor is the press is not talking about it - good or bad.


The spectacle won, which is of no surprise. Then again, if Strictly's semi final beats The X Factor final at Wembley then I'll have to eat my words.

I won't say 'the better show' won because I don't feel Strictly is better at the moment...though saying that it's pulling in the casual viewers so it most definitely must be doing something right.

I feel like I'm morphing into GeorgeS by dismissing Strictly all the time...check my post history and you'll see I'm a long time fan but maybe that's where my attitude comes from - it's a longing for yesteryear when things have to change to survive.


Maybe posts focusing solely on how one show can be changed should be posted in Spoilers with a warning; then those who what to avoid the discussions can easily scroll through them?


I'm going to regret this but...who's Duncan?

some "well fit" lad (EastEnders character) that dan2008 apparently thinks is sexy.

*sighs*


I obviously don't read the Mirror enough



You dont think that Strictly was a better show on Saturday, it was leaping off the screen when I saw it, ive never seen a Strictly or X-Factor quite like it before.

It gets better if you exclude sports and the award shows which make up 60% of the list as it stands.

If you look at just the 2011-2012 season so far (excluding sports and awards shows) the list looks something like this

1. Two and a Half Men – 28.74
2. NCIS – 20.38
3. 2 Broke Girls – 19.37
4. Dancing with the Stars – 19.03
5. 60 Minutes – 18.56
6. NCIS: LA – 16.71
7. The Big Bang Theory – 15.98
8. Modern Family – 14.54
9. Criminal Minds – 14.14
10. Unforgettable – 14.08

And the 18-49 breakdown on the season so far would look remarkably different to that.

Thanks...do you think we may get an ode to him from dan when he spots that we mentioned him?


I have to admit, you don't strike me as a Mirror reader. It's on the front page actually: "Strictly Secrets".


It was certainly spectacle, but for me the cosiness of the show was lost. The dancers either became overwhelmed by the occasion or just looked insignificant because of the enormity of the dancefloor - to me, it was more about the size of the arena than the couples.

Tonight's show was better for me because there were more couples on the floor so they covered more space and the 'echoing' they kept having last night didn't seem so bad; maybe being pre-recorded meant they could adjust the sound levels.

And even when The X Factor pulls ahead in the finals it's in the unusual territory of losing on the overnights this time. Doctor Who had a similar problem and the press had a field day.

I think the press ALWAYS talks about The X Factor, Strictly rarely makes the front pages.After the power cut, The X Factor was all over the papers. Also The X Factor has more outlets where it is promoted, Daybreak & This Morning devote lots of time to it. The fact Strictly did so well considering it's second fiddle in the press because tabloid reporters have multiple orgasms writing about The X Factor, always going to the studio to report on it like moths around a flame, and them thinking The X Factor is cool, is an achievement in itself.


Had it not been for Strictly clashing with the England match last week, I think it would have been closer to 11m.

The question is are we seeing momentum build for Strictly or was the rating due to it being set in Wembley? I expected The X Factor to kick on after last Saturday but instead it dropped slightly. Well we'll see next week .


Now this could work.