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The Ratings Thread (Part 27)
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BeethovensPiano
03-11-2011
Big Brother fading away
Glenn A
03-11-2011
Excellent for Frozen Planet, it shows a well made, informative but not dull show can pull in nearly as many viewers as Eastenders. However, big shock of the evening must be the Champions League, 3.5 million is way below what this normally gets, though Man City maybe don't have the pulling power of the other three English teams.
Glenn A
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Big Brother fading away”

I quite agree, it has fallen well short of the 1.5-2 million a night I predicted two months ago. However, 1.1 million for Channel 5 is far more acceptable than if it was achieving this on Channel 4 and they were locked into a £ 60 million a year three year deal for a show that can't be repeated.
kwynne42
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Big Brother fading away”

The shame of being beaten by Rab C Nesbitt heh
D.M.N.
03-11-2011
Hollyoaks
31/10 - 768k + 134k + 1.24m + 136k => 2.28 million
01/11 - 836k + 165k + 1.14m + 154k => 2.30 million
02/11 - 1.17m + 265k + 1.49m + 152k => 3.08 million
03/11 - 1.26m + 207k + ?? + ?? => 1.47 million (E4 alone)
04/11 -

I know some normally look down on adding figures together to get a 'total', but it is probably necessary here to see how well Hollyoaks is doing. Anyone know when the last time an individual episode broke 3 million on E4 and C4 (dave01 - I know you normally keep track of Hollyoaks?). I guess you probably have to go back to at least 2009. Hopefully for Channel 4's sake the figures stay strong, and although the demographics are extremely different, one would assume that Hollyoaks is denting Emmerdale slightly.

(edit - saying that, the Channel 4 showings are even year-on-year, it's the E4 first looks that are up by ~300%)
cylon6
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Ah, forgot the football was on instead of Midsomer.

So perhaps that explains the huge uplift for FP, although I expect there was still some word of mouth impact on the week.

Poor football rating, it has to be said, for a game involving the club at the top of the league. Makes you wonder if the CL was worth the huge expense ITV paid and gave up F1 for.”

If Champions League matches aren't nearing the knockout stages or featuring Man United in the early rounds, they rarely do well.
crazyguyz999
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Hollyoaks
31/10 - 768k + 134k + 1.24m + 136k => 2.28 million
01/11 - 836k + 165k + 1.14m + 154k => 2.30 million
02/11 - 1.17m + 265k + 1.49m + 152k => 3.08 million
03/11 - 1.26m + 207k + ?? + ?? => 1.47 million (E4 alone)
04/11 -

I know some normally look down on adding figures together to get a 'total', but it is probably necessary here to see how well Hollyoaks is doing. Anyone know when the last time an individual episode broke 3 million on E4 and C4 (dave01 - I know you normally keep track of Hollyoaks?). I guess you probably have to go back to at least 2009. Hopefully for Channel 4's sake the figures stay strong, and although the demographics are extremely different, one would assume that Hollyoaks is denting Emmerdale slightly.

(edit - saying that, the Channel 4 showings are even year-on-year, it's the E4 first looks that are up by ~300%)”

First half of 2009 I would say. Figures plummeted from there.
ZoeMcCallister
03-11-2011
Frozen Planet performed excellently last night-much better than expected, but the standout rating for me is Hollyoaks, both on Ch4 and E4. I think the C4 rating is the highest in a couple of years and the only other time I've seen the E4 showing manage ratings like that is through the Niall saga. The Wednesday episode has a combined rating of ~3m which is fantastic for a show which struggled to get a combined rating of just over 1m a couple of months ago. Not sure where all these extra viewers have come from, but it can only be good news for HO. They will be desperately hoping to hold onto the viewers next week.

Waterloo Road also posting a very good audience-highest of Series 7B? Probably helped by the weak ITV competition.

Big Brother seems to be in trouble now-from series highs last week to series lows this week. It seems to be fading away and I'm not sure why it isn't picking up momentum now-are the final few just really boring?

Paul Merton really suffering too from Frozen Planet. We've seen what he's capable of in the first week.
AlexiR
03-11-2011
Fantastic for Frozen Planet.

Channel 4 appear to have had a pretty good night as well with Grand Designs just shy of 3 million including +1. Shame that didn't help Top Boy although that has at least been stable and above 1 million so it could have been much worse.
crazyguyz999
03-11-2011
I think the figures for e4 will drop a lot next week, but mostly due to more people watching over on 4, as the Silas story won't be as bigger feature. I think it will have gained a lot of viewers or gripped people to watch a lot more. I think figures on 4 could start to pull in over 1.6 million regularly if it can stay on form, with e4 around 600k to 800k.
D.M.N.
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“ think the C4 rating is the highest in a couple of years”

I thought that myself, but when having a look back at the next year (to show an "increase" year-on-year), the Channel 4 episodes were about the same as now, in fact the episode on Monday 1st November 2009 had 1.55m (6.9%) on C4: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/ne...ovember-1.html
Glenn A
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“If Champions League matches aren't nearing the knockout stages or featuring Man United in the early rounds, they rarely do well.”

Not tempting fate, should all the English teams be knocked out by the quarter finals, the tournament becomes more of a competition for football anoraks. Finals involving non English teams usually attract only 4- 5 million viewers.
I must admit I wasn't in the least interested last night and wanted to watch Frozen Planet instead.
GeorgeS
03-11-2011
Frozen Planet benefitted from no Midsomer Murders.

I wonder if Attenburgh can do a doc on headless chickens given the comments about the Champions League ratings based on one game? The reason ITV was low was most likely because Man Utd were on Sky Sports simultaneously.
rzt
03-11-2011
ITV1's Saturday night schedule for Q1 2012 looks set to be something like:

19.00- TV Burp (8 eps)
19.30- The Exit List (7 eps)....Ant & Dec's [something] (6-7 eps)
20.30- Take Me Out (14 eps)
21.45- The Jonathan Ross Show (9 eps)...The Talent Show Story (5 eps)

Doesn't look too good. TV Burp is more of a 4's rater now than 5m+ it was capable of in previous years. The Exit List is a new game show, details are here. Given the way new entertainment shows have fared on ITV1 recently, I'm tempted to say The Exit List will turn out to be a flop. If it's not a flop, I can't see it doing particularly well (4m perhaps). The Jonathan Ross Show was getting c3.5m with a XF lead-in, it could be down to 2.5-3.0m in Q1 next year without that sort of inheritance. The Talent Show Story sounds like cheap filler which won't do particularly good numbers. This is a lineup that BBC1 will have no problem beating. All indications suggest at this point that DOI remains on Sunday. So with the above lineup, it seems like ITV1 are basically throwing in the towel against The Voice, which most likely is beginning in February/March. I'll say it now, I think The Voice has a fantastic chance of being a success if it airs against that kind of lineup. The only possible stumbling block could be the Ant & Dec show whatever it may be, but their star power has been on the wane recently, and Let's Dance & Nick Knowles have had little problem beating them in recent years.
AlexiR
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“ITV1's Saturday night schedule for Q1 2012 looks set to be something like...”

If that's what we can expect from ITV on Saturday nights then the BBC should be locking The Voice into a February debut. I really don't see what they have to gain by leaving it later than that.
kwynne42
03-11-2011
I thought TV Burb was supposed to be finishing at the end of this run, Harry not wanting to do anymore etc
rzt
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“If that's what we can expect from ITV on Saturday nights then the BBC should be locking The Voice into a February debut. I really don't see what they have to gain by leaving it later than that.”

Absolutely. Ideally a January launch would be the best but as it seems like the auditions will be filming in January, the next best option would be February. Even an early March launch would be fine, against that sort of lineup, I reckon. But yeah, February, would be a good time to launch. I mean, up against a show like The Exit List, it really shouldn't have a problem of doing well unless something really major goes wrong.

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“I thought TV Burb was supposed to be finishing at the end of this run, Harry not wanting to do anymore etc”

He's under contract to do one more series of 8 episodes after the current one. After that, it's up to him whether he wants to carry on or not.
dave01
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Hollyoaks
31/10 - 768k + 134k + 1.24m + 136k => 2.28 million
01/11 - 836k + 165k + 1.14m + 154k => 2.30 million
02/11 - 1.17m + 265k + 1.49m + 152k => 3.08 million
03/11 - 1.26m + 207k + ?? + ?? => 1.47 million (E4 alone)
04/11 -

I know some normally look down on adding figures together to get a 'total', but it is probably necessary here to see how well Hollyoaks is doing. Anyone know when the last time an individual episode broke 3 million on E4 and C4 (dave01 - I know you normally keep track of Hollyoaks?). I guess you probably have to go back to at least 2009. Hopefully for Channel 4's sake the figures stay strong, and although the demographics are extremely different, one would assume that Hollyoaks is denting Emmerdale slightly.

(edit - saying that, the Channel 4 showings are even year-on-year, it's the E4 first looks that are up by ~300%)”

Last time a Hollyoaks episode broke 3m in the overnights on E4/C4 combined was October 2008. So in that respect last night was the highest rated episode in 3 years. In C4 only terms it was the highest rated since November 2010. Hollyoaks has got its viewers back, now it needs to make sure it retains as many of them as possible.

[EDIT: there was an episode in Jan 2009, which may have just scraped 3m with e4+1 & c4+1 but I don't know those +1 ratings. Last night would have beaten that anyway and so would be the highest since Oct 2008.]
Bushmills
03-11-2011
Shocking rating for ITV News at Ten last night. The gap between it and the BBC 10 o'clock news is embarrassing.
Jonwo
03-11-2011
Paul Merton is really suffering against Frozen Planet but I think there isn't much Channel 5 can do as the schedule pretty packed, think moving it to Thursday would help and keep The Mentalist at 10. Hopefully Channel 5 recognize that its the competition and not the show itself.
newkid30
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Paul Merton is really suffering against Frozen Planet but I think there isn't much Channel 5 can do as the schedule pretty packed, think moving it to Thursday would help and keep The Mentalist at 10. Hopefully Channel 5 recognize that its the competition and not the show itself.”

Agreed, I really like the show, it's kind of quirky and light hearted, Merton is good value. Are the Sunday repeats doing well? We watch it on Sundays.
ftv
03-11-2011
BBC Breakfast up to 1.7 million on what seemed like a fairly routine news day; Daybreak on its usual post-halfterm figure of 800,000.
cylon6
03-11-2011
Christmas treats from Channel 4.

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/p...011-press-pack
GeorgeS
03-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“BBC Breakfast up to 1.7 million on what seemed like a fairly routine news day; Daybreak on its usual post-halfterm figure of 800,000.”

you aren't Greek I presume?
Salv*
03-11-2011
I knew that the ratings would drop for BB, the 4 main characters being up for eviction last week really did it for them. Last week were getting series highs and high ratings for the series, leading up to the unpredictable result. Now one of the four main competitors is gone, people seem to be annoyed.

Also doesn't surprise me as the eviction tomorrow night is the least interesting of the series, there is no hype at all. The ratings will pick up after the eviction tomorrow, for the final week.

Now, on to Frozen Planet, brilliant rating for a brilliant documentary. Something that anyone can watch.

Hollyoaks doing brilliantly, back to it's 2008-2009 type figures.
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