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The Ratings Thread (Part 27)
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JCR
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by C14E:
“That rating for TBBT is the same as what it was getting at 9.30pm with a 5.0+ lead-in from Two and a Half Men in season 3. Last season it seemed to lose some momentum in the switch to 8pm but this season is doing really well so far.

As for Glee, I'm not sure any show has ever had such a short honeymoon period. The ratings really took off in the second half of season one (with the Idol lead-in) and then the first half of season two. But even in that first back 9, there was heavy criticism being aimed at it. And that has continued ever since, really. And the ratings have been sliding since the middle of season 2.

IIRC, it was dipping on E4 as well before it finished. So I'd say it's just a general loss of viewers (as in the US) coupled with the move to a less widely available channel.”

Heroes imploded quicker than Glee has. The problem with Glee of course is there is no progression. It's the same show every week.
Charnham
05-11-2011
thought I would post this, its the line up (with times) for Children In Need, from the Radio Times

Quote:
“7.30pm Terry Wogan, Fearne Cotton, Tess Daly and Alesha Dixon present another bumper night of fundraising fun live from BBC Television Centre in London, with a host of celebrities doing their bit to support disadvantaged children across the UK. The lads from One Direction kick things off, and the cast of West End smash The Wizard of Oz perform live.

8pm Where would Children in Need be without the BBC newsreaders? Sure enough, they're back again, turning their hands - and their feet - to a spot of ballroom dancing in a Strictly Come Dancing special, with Len Goodman, Bruno Tonioli, Craig Revel Horwood and Alesha Dixon ready to pass expert judgement. Also, in what has become a Children in Need tradition, there is an exclusive sneak peek at this year's Doctor Who Christmas special.

8.30pm The Outnumbered kids provide a musical surprise, there is a live performance by Susan Boyle and, in one of the evening's most ambitious performances, Gareth Malone leads a 10-strong choir in a song that links up live with 3,000 children across the UK.

9pm The cast of EastEnders will rock you as the Vic does Queen, and the Muppets perform an old favourite joined by an all-star supporting cast including Harry Hill, Davina McCall and the Match of the Day team.

9.30pm Alan Sugar risks a grilling in the den in The Dragons' Apprentice. Then, music by the Collective, the Gary Barlow-produced urban crew, featuring Tulisa, Tinchy Stryder, Chipmunk, Ms Dynamite, Wretch 32, Rizzle Kicks, Mz Bratt, Dot Rotten, Ed Sheeran and Labrinth, with this year's official Children in Need single, Teardrop.

10pm Terry Wogan, Tess Daly and Fearne Cotton present more fundraising fun, including a special edition of Never Mind the Buzzcocks, performances by Olly Murs and Ed Sheeran, and more music by One Direction. (BBC 2)

10.35pm JLS perform their new single exclusively for Children in Need and style guru Gok Wan gives it the old razzle-dazzle with a song from the musical Chicago.

11pm Off-the-wall comedy from Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer, a song from the cast of Hollyoaks and a round-up of fundraising events across the UK.

11.30pm Live music by comeback stars Steps, and funnyman Russell Howard presents his Good Fundraising News.

12am A performance by Adele, and a toe-tapping routine by the stars of West End show Crazy for You.

12.30 A specially recorded performance by Lady Gaga, and a tribute to the 1980s with Justin Lee Collins and the cast of musical Rock of Ages, featuring Shayne Ward.

1am Will Young sings live and there is a look back at last night's Children in Need Rocks Manchester concert.

1.30am A final round-up of highlights before the grand total is announced.”

Wihlst I will watch some of the first half, I think ill iPlay, Russell Howard Good Fundraising News.
ftv
05-11-2011
The Sun is reporting there will be no Royle Family Christmas special this year because the scripts will not be ready for the scheduled filming.
AnthonyC
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The Sun is reporting there will be no Royle Family Christmas special this year because the scripts will not be ready for the scheduled filming.”

Haha, that's not stopped them before lol.

Best news in a long time.
ronant
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The Sun is reporting there will be no Royle Family Christmas special this year because the scripts will not be ready for the scheduled filming.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...Christmas.html
Ouch, that's a big hole to fill...
GeorgeS
05-11-2011
The Sun readers are out in force. Not much ITV can do if the scripts aren't ready. I'd suggest another ITV show can fill that 9pm hole quite nicely and I'm not thinking a Christmas night University Challenge special........
ftv
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“The Sun readers are out in force. Not much ITV can do if the scripts aren't ready. I'd suggest another ITV show can fill that 9pm hole quite nicely and I'm not thinking a Christmas night University Challenge special........”

Errr...it's a BBC show George
D.M.N.
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The Sun is reporting there will be no Royle Family Christmas special this year because the scripts will not be ready for the scheduled filming.”

I really question that article purely because how long exactly does it take to film and edit The Royal Family? A few days?
rzt
05-11-2011
1.1m viewers watched yesterday's installment of BBC1 daytime drama 'The Case'.

Source: Railway Arms
derek500
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I really question that article purely because how long exactly does it take to film and edit The Royal Family? A few days?”

This is the ITV made Royle Family, not the ten minute Royal Famly Christmas message (which would only take a few days)
ftv
05-11-2011
It is the BBC Royle family written (or rather not written) by Caroline Aherne and Craig Cash which last Christmas attracted 9.9 million viewers.A BBC spokesman confirmed ''We will all miss the Royle Family this Christmas.'' A special is now promised for Christmas 2012. Is there also an ITV show called ''The Royal Family'' - there used to be a hospital drama called ''The Royal'' but it was axed.
Score
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I really question that article purely because how long exactly does it take to film and edit The Royal Family? A few days?”

Probably 2 weeks of filming for an hour long episode and a couple of weeks of editing. But if the script isn't ready then it won't go ahead.

This leaves a gaping hole in BBC1's Christmas schedule. Their usual line-up can't go ahead and their comedy centrepiece has gone. The question is now what can they fill the slot with? I suspect the previous plan was Lapland on Xmas Eve, Royle Family, Royal Bodyguard and McIntyre on Xmas Day with Ab Fab and Outnumbered perhaps on Boxing Day. However, they could go with this:

17:30 - The Borrowers
19:00 - Doctor Who
20:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
21:00 - EastEnders
22:00 - Royal Bodyguard
22:30 - McIntyre

Or if they dont want The Borrowers there they could put Lapland on at 9pm (with everything else earlier) if it's any good, or even start Great Expectations on Xmas Fay if they've got that much faith in it. If they're feeling particularly brave they could go with Sherlock even, but they might just want to stick with comedy, and if so I think their best bet would be:

18:00 - Doctor Who
19:00 - Outnumbered
19:30 - Strictly Come Dancing
20:30 - EastEnders
21:30 - Royal Bodyguard
22:00 - Ab Fab
22:30 - Comedy Roadshow

That way Outnumbered gets a great sandwich earlier in the evening whilst Royal Bodyguard gets propped up by EE and Ab Fab could do nicely at 10pm.

There's no denying that losing The Royle Family does make BBC1 look a bit weaker than usual, and ITV may be tempted to capitalise on that with Downton Abbey. I'd be interested to see the results of a Downton/EE clash as I don't think there's actually much of a crossover audience there with EE skewing much younger and Downton having a much heavier ABC1 skew. Both could do well in that situation.
Saturn
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“There's no denying that losing The Royle Family does make BBC1 look a bit weaker than usual, and ITV may be tempted to capitalise on that with Downton Abbey. I'd be interested to see the results of a Downton/EE clash as I don't think there's actually much of a crossover audience there with EE skewing much younger and Downton having a much heavier ABC1 skew. Both could do well in that situation.”

Surely a lot of older people be with their younger relatives on Chiristmas night? I can see most of them being forced to watch Eastenders. I don't think ITV should waste DA on Christmas day.
Bex.
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The Sun is reporting there will be no Royle Family Christmas special this year because the scripts will not be ready for the scheduled filming.”

a Christmas special of Don't Scare The Hare to replace it?
derek500
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“It is the BBC Royle family written (or rather not written) by Caroline Aherne and Craig Cash which last Christmas attracted 9.9 million viewers”

It's made by ITV Studios for the BBC. Used to be Granada.

All of Caroline Aherne shows on the BBC were made by Granada. (her chat show and Mrs Merton and Malcolm and the Royle Family).
BeethovensPiano
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bex.:
“a Christmas special of Don't Scare The Hare to replace it? ”

hmm whatever happened to that?
rzt
05-11-2011
An Idiot Abroad got 1.1m viewers, peaking at 1.3m last night, up from the previous week.

Source: ClaireW
RobbieSykes123
05-11-2011
If the Royles story is true then that is a massive blow for BBC1. And for the nation!

At this late stage, anything that takes the slot is mere filler. I'm sure this gives ITV an ideal opportunity to subject us to the Downton special. Indeed, with ITV presumably taking charge of ensuring Aherene delivered the Royles on time, one might suspect dirty tricks....

Still, lets await official confirmation and not a Sun exclusive with comments attributed to "a BBC source".....
RobbieSykes123
05-11-2011
One wonders if the apparent failure of The Royal Bodyguard to appear in late November as hinted is because they had caught wind of problems with the Royles?
Andy23
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“If the Royles story is true then that is a massive blow for BBC1. And for the nation!

At this late stage, anything that takes the slot is mere filler. I'm sure this gives ITV an ideal opportunity to subject us to the Downton special. Indeed, with ITV presumably taking charge of ensuring Aherene delivered the Royles on time, one might suspect dirty tricks....

Still, lets await official confirmation and not a Sun exclusive with comments attributed to "a BBC source".....”

I wondered how long it would take for someone to come out with that viewpoint, I knew we'd be able to rely on you.

It's hardly a 'massive' blow, when The Royle Family started doing Christmas specials it was never confirmed that this would take place every single year, a gap every now and then will freshen up the schedules. The TV schedules are already very predictable all year round as it is.
D.M.N.
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“Probably 2 weeks of filming for an hour long episode and a couple of weeks of editing. But if the script isn't ready then it won't go ahead.”

2 weeks? That seems extremely long for what is a comedy based in one living room. I could understand 2 weeks if they were out on location somewhere, but 2 weeks for a show which is based mainly in a house seems too long.
derek500
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“2 weeks? That seems extremely long for what is a comedy based in one living room. I could understand 2 weeks if they were out on location somewhere, but 2 weeks for a show which is based mainly in a house seems too long.”

Perhaps they're doing a location one this year, like The Golden Egg Cup.
ftv
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“2 weeks? That seems extremely long for what is a comedy based in one living room. I could understand 2 weeks if they were out on location somewhere, but 2 weeks for a show which is based mainly in a house seems too long.”

I suppose there is also the problem of getting all the regular cast together on a certain date as they no doubt have other commitments. I saw Martin Clunes quoted recently as saying it takes an episode of Doc Martin two years to get from the commissioning stage to transmission - I appreciate the Royles are a different kind of programme but it gives some idea of the time scale.(I don't think Doc Martin has been recommissioned yet either)
RobbieSykes123
05-11-2011
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wondered how long it would take for someone to come out with that viewpoint, I knew we'd be able to rely on you.

It's hardly a 'massive' blow, when The Royle Family started doing Christmas specials it was never confirmed that this would take place every single year, a gap every now and then will freshen up the schedules. The TV schedules are already very predictable all year round as it is.”

It's a massive blow for the Beeb to learn in early November that the mainstay of their Christmas schedules had been canned weeks before transmission with no time left to commission something else instead! Surely you can see that?
Jonwo
05-11-2011
I suspect Ab Fab will take the slot, there have two episodes at Christmas IIRC. Mrs Browns Boys has a Christmas special although that may air on Christmas Eve or in the week running up to Christmas.
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