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The Ratings Thread (Part 27)
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xfactorfan27
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by allthingsuk:
“I would like to see a schedule like this for Xmas Eve:

17:45 Wall-E
19.15 News, Sport and Weather
19:30 EastEnders
20:10 Casualty
21:00 Outnumbered

Casualty hasn't been on Xmas Eve since 2006, and has never been on Xmas Day even in the height of its popularity. EastEnders at 7.30pm would provide good lead-in for Casualty, Outnumbered in a 9pm slot could provide a 5/6m rating.”

Maybe that's because Christmas is supposed to be a time of happiness, not a time when people want to watch shows about death and sickness....
jonnyblack
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by xfactorfan27:
“Maybe that's because Christmas is supposed to be a time of happiness, not a time when people want to watch shows about death and sickness....”

Tell that to Eastenders
xfactorfan27
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by jonnyblack:
“Tell that to Eastenders ”

Lol very true
KennyT
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by xfactorfan27:
“Maybe that's because Christmas is supposed to be a time of happiness, not a time when people want to watch shows about death and sickness....”

Isn't Xmas traditionally when the suicide rate goes up! (I think that's been true since before Eastenders Xmas specials!)

K
all_night
06-11-2011
It's a shame the Hollyoaks Silas storyline couldn't have been held back until Christmas week. I think the week leading up to Christmas would have seen it deliver higher ratings. The one i always remember is the Claire/Max saga which i think managed to get nearly 2 million or even more.
Salv*
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by all_night:
“It's a shame the Hollyoaks Silas storyline couldn't have been held back until Christmas week. I think the week leading up to Christmas would have seen it deliver higher ratings. The one i always remember is the Claire/Max saga which i think managed to get nearly 2 million or even more.”

I think the conclusion of the Max/Claire thing with the whole lake thing actually got 3.1m if I remember correctly. That year was getting around 2.1m daily.
cylon6
06-11-2011
Now who was it that said Bonfire Night would affect The X Factor more? Ratings are so unpredictable.
Samthefootball
06-11-2011
i wonder if this is true.

http://xfactor.tellymix.co.uk/news/5...t-improve.html
CheekyTV
06-11-2011
yeah ratings go up and down like whores draws..:P
allthingsuk
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I think the conclusion of the Max/Claire thing with the whole lake thing actually got 3.1m if I remember correctly. That year was getting around 2.1m daily.”

Yeah there was a big revamp that year with The Dog explosion in September 2006 when Kirkwood came in, and ratings started to increase to about 2-2.5 million daily.
gavin shipman
06-11-2011
I think Strictly was damaged by Bombfire night. Most families would have been out watching the fireworks catching up with Strictly after. I think there could be a big timeshift.

X Factor making nearly 10million on average. When the peak figure was shown at 11million I thought that was the average to begin with them saw the 9.9m figure for thye average and my heart sank.

I think X Factor could make over 12million tonight for the elimination and Strictly over 10million.
cylon6
06-11-2011
More spin on the ratings last night.

https://twitter.com/#!/rickbehari/st...26791991803904

#Strictly peaked at 10.5m, 46.5% share, averaging 9.1m, 41.6%. Highest share of audience across the night. #SCD #BBC1
clarky323
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“11.0m peak audience (10.5m excl ITV1+1) for The X Factor last night. Most watched programme on TV with average of 9.9m / 42% share (9.5m excl +1)

Source: James Macleod”

What share did the X Factor get last week for the saturday show, I want to know if it wasn't bonfire night, how it would've done, thanks
rzt
06-11-2011
The Chase had 4.1m last night.

Source: Mark Labbett

I have a feeling the episode in a couple of weeks' time with a slightly later 6.15pm start and shorter SCD clash could be around that 4.5-5m mark.

Originally Posted by clarky323:
“What share did the X Factor get last week for the saturday show, I want to know if it wasn't bonfire night, how it would've done, thanks ”

Last week's share (inc +1 like that above one) was 40.1%.

Last week, there were 24.7m people watching TV during TXF in basically the same slot. Last night, there were about 23.6m people watching. If the same no. of people were watching last night and had it got a 42% share, it would've had 10.4m (inc +1). It's worth noting that last week's 24.7m itself was quite low due to the Halloween effect as the week before there were about 25.7m people watching TV. A 42% share of the total TV audience of 25.7m would've resulted in 10.8m (inc +1). With total TV audiences set to rise next Saturday, I expect both SCD and XF will be above 10m next week.
Roscoe Barnes
06-11-2011
Well I wasn't expecting TXF to beat SCD after last week and more importantly, including +1 TXF is dead level with last week. I'm shocked it managed to keep its entire audience versus last week with Bonfire Night on the cards for a lot of people. TXF has to increase next week. No Halloween/Bonfire night to blame on the ratings so next week should be looking at the biggest Saturday night audience for the live shows so far!
Glenn A
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Well I wasn't expecting TXF to beat SCD after last week and more importantly, including +1 TXF is dead level with last week. I'm shocked it managed to keep its entire audience versus last week with Bonfire Night on the cards for a lot of people. TXF has to increase next week. No Halloween/Bonfire night to blame on the ratings so next week should be looking at the biggest Saturday night audience for the live shows so far!”

Will civilisation end if TXF doesn't increase its ratings? However, ITV is terrified that it's biggest show is falling in the ratings and maybe they are realising now the overkill, the mediocre standard of the singers and the fact there is no Simon is hurting.
Bushmills
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“More spin on the ratings last night.

https://twitter.com/#!/rickbehari/st...26791991803904

#Strictly peaked at 10.5m, 46.5% share, averaging 9.1m, 41.6%. Highest share of audience across the night. #SCD #BBC1”

BBC shouldn't be engaging in spin like that. It's supposed to be above naked ratings chasing.
Roscoe Barnes
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Will civilisation end if TXF doesn't increase its ratings? However, ITV is terrified that it's biggest show is falling in the ratings and maybe they are realising now the overkill, the mediocre standard of the singers and the fact there is no Simon is hurting.”

Well obviously not , but, with no Halloween, Bonfire Night or SCD clash, everything is its favour to increase!
EuroChris
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“More spin on the ratings last night.

https://twitter.com/#!/rickbehari/st...26791991803904

#Strictly peaked at 10.5m, 46.5% share, averaging 9.1m, 41.6%. Highest share of audience across the night. #SCD #BBC1”

Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“BBC shouldn't be engaging in spin like that. It's supposed to be above naked ratings chasing.”

They were only stating a fact.
D.M.N.
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The Chase had 4.1m last night.

Source: Mark Labbett

I have a feeling the episode in a couple of weeks' time with a slightly later 6.15pm start and shorter SCD clash could be around that 4.5-5m mark.”

Very good stuff for The Chase - I wonder how it would do if it and TV Burp swapped?
Glenn A
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Well obviously not , but, with no Halloween, Bonfire Night or SCD clash, everything is its favour to increase!”

Suppose it doesn't. I bet before long its allies in the redtops will turn on it in the same way they turned against BB.
However, out of interest, I did watch bonfires last night and watched the SCD repeat at midnight, adding to the show's timeshift.
Score
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The Chase had 4.1m last night.

Source: Mark Labbett

I have a feeling the episode in a couple of weeks' time with a slightly later 6.15pm start and shorter SCD clash could be around that 4.5-5m mark.”

That's pretty damn good for The Chase in that slot against SCD. It was within a million of TV Burp which had a later slot and an X Factor lead out. I wonder if The Chase would be closer to 5m paired with TXF? I agree that in a few weeks it'll be doing even better - I think we'll be seeing more of The Chase on Saturday nights next year as its doing better than expected.

Decent for Life Stories last night too, I had a feeling Rolf Harris would do well. Poor for the Lottery Awards but no surprise there. TV Burp is definitely losing steam and even if Harry doesn't quit at the end of the next series I can't see it lasting much longer - it's had a good run but it's nearing the end of its life now.
RobbieSykes123
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I actually think last week was a one off as a result of the bad press, Halloween party night, and the clash.

This week Bonfire Night will dent SCD as much as TXF (possibly SCD more as people often do their fireworks when it goes dark, not wait till 8pm). And there is no clash at all, SCD finishing about 10 minutes before TXF started tonight.

I'm convinced TXF will comfortably be back in front tonight.
”

Seems I was the only person on here then not to be caught out by TXF unsurprisingly getting its nose in front again last night.

I am surprised that TXF wasn't dented that massively, and also that SCD was only 0.4m behind TXF despite being the one more obviously hit by early evening fireworks and bonfires. Good performance there by Strictly, and the mammoth evening-winning share earned by SCD suggests that it probably would have been the top rated show of the night had people not been watching fireworks go off.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“So XF did win, afterall. SCD was down -1.1m and -1.1 share points from last week. I'm quite surprised by that considering it's been improving each week and had good momentum - I thought the Bonfire Night effect would've been slightly smaller than that. And for fans of y-o-y comparisons, it was down -12% vs. the same night last year.”

Yes but this year was unusual because 5th November fell on a Saturday, so most fireworks and bonfires this year will have been on the proper night.

Anyway, I don't see why all the spin is vented against SCD today - it was down 12% yoy of course, but TXF is down 20%!

TXF's underperformance this year is still the story, no matter how much ITV spin we get on the subject.

Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“BBC shouldn't be engaging in spin like that. It's supposed to be above naked ratings chasing.”

Oh ffs, what's wrong in pointed out that your big show was most watched in terms of viewing share. Given how much media interest there is in the TXF vs SCD battle, and the reporting this week of SCD taking the lead, the numbers last night are obviously going to be reported, so it's important that ITV's spin and any inaccuracies in it are countered by the BBC putting out the facts about their show.

Some folk are too sensitive about these things...
cylon6
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“BBC shouldn't be engaging in spin like that. It's supposed to be above naked ratings chasing.”

It's different on Saturday nights. They've always battled with ITV. I neither want or expect BBC1 to shut down on Saturday nights and put on documentaries. They have a history of providing Saturday night entertainment and long may it continue!
Originally Posted by EuroChris:
“They were only stating a fact. ”

ITV point out The X Factor was number 1 for the night, BBC point out Strictly had a higher share. Both correct but both putting the message out there about their shows.

It's spin.
D.M.N.
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“TXF's underperformance this year is still the story, no matter how much ITV spin we get on the subject.”

Oh, of course. Who on here predicted that The X Factor and Strictly would be neck-and-neck on Saturday's this year at the end of last year? (answer = no one)
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