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The Ratings Thread (Part 27)
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MrGameshowTime
13-11-2011
D.M.N You're right but 8m was close. It will have the dent especially on Friday with it being Children In Need because that normally gets 10m viewers a year. I think it will get 5-7m on wednesday, thursday and friday
rzt
13-11-2011
Attentional's (i.e. DS) overnight rating for The X Factor will be tape-checked for 8.15-10pm, even though the show itself didn't start until 8.30pm.
D.M.N.
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Attentional's (i.e. DS) overnight rating for The X Factor will be tape-checked for 8.15-10pm, even though the show itself didn't start until 8.30pm.”

I imagine for the officials ITV will log it through as two shows - ie "Best of X Factor auditions" and "X Factor", providing of course the latter isn't actually lower....

Either way, that's a Strictly victory in the overnights. (edit.... famous last words...)
rzt
13-11-2011
Saturday 12th November talent show overnights:

#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.

#StrictlyComeDancing did 10.26m, 40.7% share. Peaked with 11.78m. Both still own Saturday night.

Source: Christ PA
RandomPoster
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I imagine for the officials ITV will log it through as two shows - ie "Best of X Factor auditions" and "X Factor", providing of course the latter isn't actually lower....

Either way, that's a Strictly victory in the overnights. (edit.... famous last words...)”

I guess not
he he
D.M.N.
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.

#StrictlyComeDancing did 10.26m, 40.7% share. Peaked with 11.78m. Both still own Saturday night.

Source: Christ PA”

Of course, we don't know - yet - if that 10.9m is from 20:30 onwards or 20:15 onwards. Nevertheless, both X Factor and Strictly were up, but I was expecting a closer gap.
D.M.N.
13-11-2011
F1 - Jake Humphrey
Last year the title was on the line, this year there's nothing to fight for. Despite that, more people tuned in yesterday...all 3.5m of you
1 minute ago

Peak figure as usual for the F1, either way, very good figures.
rzt
13-11-2011
jamesmacleod James MacLeod
8.8 million (8.6m excl ITV1+1) peak audience for ITV1's live coverage of England's 1-0 win over Spain.

Turns out the above XF rating, by the way, includes +1. You can knock off about 300k to exclude +1.
iaindb
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 12th November talent show overnights:

#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.

#StrictlyComeDancing did 10.26m, 40.7% share. Peaked with 11.78m. Both still own Saturday night.

Source: Christ PA”

Originally Posted by rzt:
“jamesmacleod James MacLeod
8.8 million (8.6m excl ITV1+1) peak audience for ITV1's live coverage of England's 1-0 win over Spain.

Turns out the above XF rating, by the way, includes +1. You can knock off about 300k to exclude +1.”

So if you exclude +1, Strictly and X Factor must have had a similar peak and Strictly probably only lost because of the overlap with the football.

It'll be interesting next week when Strictly has its Wembley special starting at 7pm with no overlap with football or X factor.
rzt
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Of course, we don't know - yet - if that 10.9m is from 20:30 onwards or 20:15 onwards. Nevertheless, both X Factor and Strictly were up, but I was expecting a closer gap.”

Turns out:

Between 20.15-22.00, The X Factor averaged ~10.6 million (10.9m including +1).

Between 20.30-22.00, The X Factor averaged 10.8 million (11.1m including +1).

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“So if you exclude +1, Strictly and X Factor must have had a similar peak and Strictly probably only lost because of the overlap with the football.”

XF peaked with 11.8m without +1, so yep, hardly anything between its and SCD's peaks.
RandomPoster
13-11-2011
jamesmacleod James MacLeod
@tvscoops the average from 8.30-10 is 11.1m (10.8m excl +1).

woops
always too late
RobbieSykes123
13-11-2011
Brill for SCD to be over 10m given the football. Superb peak, equal with TXF.

I guess the TXFistas can take a deep breath now and relax after their 5 pages of fretting last night over the delayed start. It had no impact whatsoever. Presumably if some of them turn up at the station to find their train to work is 15 mins late, they turn round and go back home rather than wait patiently...
GeorgeS
13-11-2011
So it looks as if there will be 2 X Factor shows in the Top 20 Tv shows this year Who says opportunity cannot come out of adversity?
RobbieSykes123
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“So it looks as if there will be 2 X Factor shows in the Top 20 Tv shows this year Who says opportunity cannot come out of adversity?”

Why, has ITV given "the 8.15 show" a different title or something?
rzt
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“So it looks as if there will be 2 X Factor shows in the Top 20 Tv shows this year Who says opportunity cannot come out of adversity?”

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Why, has ITV given "the 8.15 show" a different title or something?”

If ITV does give that 8.15-8.30pm portion a different name when they submit their timesheet to BARB, i.e. 'The X Factor Highlights Package' or something like that, it'd mean 3 entries for TXF in the BARB chart (not our chart though!): The X Factor, The X Factor Results, The X Factor Highlights Package
GeorgeS
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Why, has ITV given "the 8.15 show" a different title or something?”

You'd almost think you weren't watching. It was a best of auditions show. Totally different from the main show. Totally deserving of a separate listing. After all if 3 Indiana Jones movies can get listed..........
Do Something!
13-11-2011
I am worried about I'm A Celeb... tonight. The lineup has created no buzz at all.
AUNAC
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 12th November talent show overnights:

#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.

#StrictlyComeDancing did 10.26m, 40.7% share. Peaked with 11.78m. Both still own Saturday night.

Source: Christ PA”

considering the amount of press stories and hype this week regarding Frankie etc etc blah blah I thought TXF would have done much higher then that - what with the announcement of who was coming back. Amazes me that XF has to have all this hype and SCD is constantly snapping at its heals without all the hulabaloo
Andy Parish
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 12th November talent show overnights:

#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.[/i]”

The technical problems clearly ruined the night for ITV then. Some barmy comments on here last night

Any news on Merlin peaking at 10m as everyone turned over in disgust?
Score
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by AUNAC:
“considering the amount of press stories and hype this week regarding Frankie etc etc blah blah I thought TXF would have done much higher then that - what with the announcement of who was coming back. Amazes me that XF has to have all this hype and SCD is constantly snapping at its heals without all the hulabaloo”

I don't think TXF would actually have done much, if any worse without this week's controversy tbh.

Looks like the power cut didn't really have much of an impact in the end. I think we should look at the 8:30-10 average as that is when the show itself actually aired although when compiling the end of year charts they shouldn't get an extra entry. A pleasing average for TXF last night. It was the highest live Saturday rating of the series and joint highest overall Saturday rating of this series so in that context it did well. Obviously it was way off last year but we knew it would be and at least it is gaining a bit of momentum now so the gap isn't getting any wider, which they should be relived at as it could have been a million lower. I wonder if it would have been a little higher if the power cut hadn't happened?

Very good for Strictly, which also hit a Saturday high. I suspect the average would have been closer to 10.5m without the football overlap and the gap between it and TXF should be closer next week, as both have great timeslots. SCD was also slightly down y-o-y, which considering last year's episode aired an hour earlier is worth noting, but nonetheless a fantastic rating for it last night. I wonder if YBF and TV Burp saw any kind of boost from the football, which hit a nice peak?
derek500
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“I don't think TXF would actually have done much, if any worse without this week's controversy tbh.”

Because of ITV1 HD (along with ITV2/3/4 HD) going off air half way through TV Burp and still not being back until X Factor had began, our Sky+HD failed and for the first time in years, it was watched live with ad breaks in our household.
Brekkie
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by MrGameshowTime:
“Tonight's episode of I'm a celebrity get me out of here should boost ITV's ratings up. I predict at least 8 million will watch it. But to me it isn't the strongest lineup.”

2m viewers less than Downton Abbey got last week is hardly boosting ITV's ratings. Obviously on weeknights it's a different story - but I'm a Celeb will lose two nights to football this series, something they used to seem to avoid up until recent series

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 12th November talent show overnights:

#TheXFactor did 10.9m and a 42.0% share, peaking at 12.06m. #1 for Saturday.

#StrictlyComeDancing did 10.26m, 40.7% share. Peaked with 11.78m. Both still own Saturday night.

Source: Christ PA”

So anyway you look at that The X Factor slaughtered (well, grazed) Strictly!

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“F1 - Jake Humphrey
Last year the title was on the line, this year there's nothing to fight for. Despite that, more people tuned in yesterday...all 3.5m of you
1 minute ago

Peak figure as usual for the F1, either way, very good figures.”

F1 is getting as bad as cricket now - the season never seems to end.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“If ITV does give that 8.15-8.30pm portion a different name when they submit their timesheet to BARB, i.e. 'The X Factor Highlights Package' or something like that, it'd mean 3 entries for TXF in the BARB chart (not our chart though!): The X Factor, The X Factor Results, The X Factor Highlights Package”

Technically the show didn't begin until 8.30pm. If ITV were considering it to run from 8.15-10pm they had one too many ad breaks as they didn't take the ad break out of the main show that they showed after the audition clips. And talking of ads, TXF probably lucky the "technical difficulties" over shadow it as last night it was pretty much just one act per part.
Chris_TV
13-11-2011
Shame X Factor beat Strictly, Strictly has been super this year. Suprised F1 is holding up. I am a massive F1 fan, but am looking forward to next season now. This season has been a bit a drag.
RobbieSykes123
13-11-2011
Originally Posted by Chris_TV:
“Shame X Factor beat Strictly, Strictly has been super this year. Suprised F1 is holding up. I am a massive F1 fan, but am looking forward to next season now. This season has been a bit a drag.”

Unless you have Sky, it's hard to get excited about half arsed coverage, teatime highlights, and half the Beeb's award winning team defecting to Sky.

In order to pay for a TXF rip off and minority interest radio stations.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“You'd almost think you weren't watching. It was a best of auditions show. Totally different from the main show. Totally deserving of a separate listing. After all if 3 Indiana Jones movies can get listed..........”

I suspect ITV bosses won't be that fussed about trying to secure an extra entry in their weekly top 30 or the Ratings Thread top 20 of the year, so last night will just be an extended edition of TXF. No doubt it will cause much wailing on here if BARB deign to report the full show and not just the live element...

I think George is just fretting about the Beeb splitting CIN into two this year, and The One Show getting into the Top 20 of the year with 9m-10m viewers as a result!
Charnham
13-11-2011
well it looks like X-Factor did not loose out due to problems at BT Tower, even out rated Strictly, which was becoming a problem for the show. Its possible the Fankie stuff even helped the show, this week.

Originally Posted by AUNAC:
“ Amazes me that XF has to have all this hype and SCD is constantly snapping at its heals without all the hulabaloo”

I agree with this
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