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Harrys Samba
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walnut699
06-11-2011
I never said Denise didnt have the Samba 'down' she was very good at it, it was by far her best dance.

But there have been far superior ones.

(Also,if I remember correctly, Jills Samba during Season 2 was scored higher that Denise in the inital Samba week, and it still scored more than Denise's improved Samba in the finals).
Chiaroscuro
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by Linda_Dean:
“His dance was a bit hit and miss tonight. There were moments where it looked really good, bouncy and with a glimmer of natural hip action, but then nothing. Rest of the time it was dry, flat, didn't flow and the hip action and bounce felt forced and laboured. Despite that, overall the dance was fairly tidy and had a degree of gloss – so added up, it kind of leaves it in no-mans land for me.

Actually all of the dancers this year seem to be suffering from it. You get glimpses of 'wow' then it stops, and I'm there willing it to just 'flow'. There are no dancers this year where everything has just flowed. Every dancer this year I've never felt fully comfortable watching – in the sense of you know they can pull it off and/or something is likely to mess up. Even the better dancers this year (Chelsea and Holly) seem to have a large degree of the 'hit and miss' in their dances.

Actually, thinking about it, the only dancer you know is going to give you a good show is Russell.”

Even that is subjective though, isn't it? I've found Russell's last couple of dances very hard to watch. I'm sure he's having a good time, but the audience rising to its feet every time he performs seems ridiculous to me - but again it's subjective.
Jurre
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Denise had the Samba down. Matt and Aliona's was very good but he lacked machismo and it was a bit mincey. Jill is overrated. Zoe's was exceptional. Denise was still better. *snaps fingers in a Z formation*

I like Aliona, but she's only gone and proved her denouncers right by choreographing a routine that was ALL about her.”

Reminds me of ITT on Friday, where Robbie didn't know the word "machismo".
bingoes
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by TabithaTwinkle:
“kinda agree. and altho i am NOT a fan of Aliona to be fair i loved this Samba...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVHfJXvB8I”

Oh yes I thought about that, it was great
TogetherApart
06-11-2011
I am a huge Harry fan but I didn't feel this dance at all.
I hope he gets past whatevers holding him back latin wise and shows everyone his true personality too because what i'm seeing on Strictly doesn't feel like the Harry I know.
fatskia
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by TogetherApart:
“I am a huge Harry fan but I didn't feel this dance at all.

I hope he gets past whatevers holding him back latin wise and shows everyone his true personality too because what i'm seeing on Strictly doesn't feel like the Harry I know.”

It looked to me like Harry was making his body do the Samba, instead of as Bruno said 'it flowing out of him'. The Samba has a character Harry is unlikely to have come across. Public school boy who according to Vernon is a very good golfer. I've only ever seen Harry since this series started, and while he may not be an extrovert, I think he can let go and party when he feels comfortable.

This seemed to be an uncomfortable week for Harry and maybe he needed to spend a night in the nightclub having a few drinks and partying with the scantily clad Samba girls in the VT for him to get the feel of the dance? I remember Vincent saying Rachel was holding something back, and Matt Dawson was the same. Harry may have to free himself to get his best performances in Latin.
water_carrier
06-11-2011
I was very disappointed with Harry's samba last night. There just didn't seem to be much to it and it appeared to be all Aliona and not really enough of what he could do. Because of this I actually thought he was overmarked. His Tango last week was much better but maybe latin is his achilles heel.
allgrownup
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Denise and Ian's Samba is yet to bettered. Keep trying Aliona. ”

All of my favourite Samba´s are from Ian. I loved this one, loved his Samba with Zoe. Even the more adventurous Sambas of the later years: Big Bird Samba with Penny and who can forget Jade's Question! Samba. If choreographed well, the Samba is my favourite dance. Matt and Aliona's Samba was their best dance in my opinion but I'd still pick an Ian Samba Special over any other Samba.
frally
06-11-2011
Harry's Samba doesn't look much better than his Cha-cha-cha in week 1. Both dances seem similar with Aliona swirling around him and he even has that same ugly bent right arm move.
blackberry000
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Denise and Ian's Samba is yet to bettered. Keep trying Aliona. ”

Are you talking about this? I think it's been bettered by quite a few celebrities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDsZm25bf7E
trevvytrev21
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“Are you talking about this? I think it's been bettered by quite a few celebrities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDsZm25bf7E”

I think I look back at it with rose-tinted spectacles a little. Loved her outfit.
blackberry000
06-11-2011
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“It looked to me like Harry was making his body do the Samba, instead of as Bruno said 'it flowing out of him'. The Samba has a character Harry is unlikely to have come across. Public school boy who according to Vernon is a very good golfer. I've only ever seen Harry since this series started, and while he may not be an extrovert, I think he can let go and party when he feels comfortable.

This seemed to be an uncomfortable week for Harry and maybe he needed to spend a night in the nightclub having a few drinks and partying with the scantily clad Samba girls in the VT for him to get the feel of the dance? I remember Vincent saying Rachel was holding something back, and Matt Dawson was the same. Harry may have to free himself to get his best performances in Latin.”

This is so very true. A lot of the celebrities (and really anyone who starts dancing) get so caught up with the technique that they forget dancing was not invented artificially by a few bored and out of work people who decided to create a mindf**k named Samba for a laugh! Every technique that is in Samba comes from the music.
In my opinion the only celebrity who understood this and had the physical fitness to execute it (at least in Latin) is Jill. Even Kara was too balletic, placed and technical for what one wants a latin dance to be.

Although that doesn't necessarily help Harry. I know he's a musician and deals with rhythms for a living, but just because he's the drummer of a pop rock band doesn't mean that he's a great musician.

ETA: I was watching Get Him to the Greek yesterday, and that's where "mindf**k" came from. It's such an accurate phrase to describe Samba!
k9fan
06-11-2011
I thought that a samba was supposed to be a carnival type dance?
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