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People saying Johnny should be brought back...
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Abigail88
08-11-2011
I was a fan of Johnny; not a huge fan but I thought he was the most genuine person on there and technically had a great, but odd (which isn't bad) voice.

But he has been voted off, based on lack of votes. If they were to bring back a contestant who had been voted off (due to low public votes) I would say bring Johnny back as it is only fair (even though I prefer Sophie) beause he was the last one to leave.

However, it would simply be unfair and I hope Johnny fans realise this.

If they are to bring any contestants back (which, again I dont think they should) it should be one of the 4 contestants who was eliminated by the judges and not based on our votes. Obviously, the choice would be Amelia.

Even so, I find it a bit hypocritical when some forum members slate the fact Ashford was brought back into The Risk, and then I see some of the same ones asking for Johnny to be reinstated!

Oh, and as a footnote, Mr Blonde you have my condolences
unclekevo
08-11-2011
When Emily was axed, she wasn't replaced. Nobody should replace Frankie either, just have a two person final.
actually
08-11-2011
Aparently the risk where bottom, kitty was 2nd and johnny 3rd so technically he was not in the bottom 2 !!


Johnny should return !!!
jiopsi
08-11-2011
No way, Jose.
Gulftastic
08-11-2011
I agree. Bring back Johnny!
bouncer11
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“I was a fan of Johnny; not a huge fan but I thought he was the most genuine person on there and technically had a great, but odd (which isn't bad) voice.

But he has been voted off, based on lack of votes. If they were to bring back a contestant who had been voted off (due to low public votes) I would say bring Johnny back as it is only fair (even though I prefer Sophie) beause he was the last one to leave.

However, it would simply be unfair and I hope Johnny fans realise this.

If they are to bring any contestants back (which, again I dont think they should) it should be one of the 4 contestants who was eliminated by the judges and not based on our votes. Obviously, the choice would be Amelia.

Even so, I find it a bit hypocritical when some forum members slate the fact Ashford was brought back into The Risk, and then I see some of the same ones asking for Johnny to be reinstated!

Oh, and as a footnote, Mr Blonde you have my condolences ”

Well said!

The public paid good money to get rid of "Johny" and "The Risk" so why should either of them come back.
SillyBillyGoat
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“Obviously, the choice would be Amelia.”

No. If we're being totally fair, it would be James Michael.

If anyone other than he or Johnny return, it's simple bias.
BlueStreak
08-11-2011
Well, if it's based on the fact of who the judges got rid of and not a public vote type of thing..............lowest votes etc.

Say for the sake of an argument that Johnny got more votes than Kitty and the judges got rid of Johnny (which they did) then surely he'd still be eligible to come back the same as Amelia.

I think I've made that sound the way I want it to LOL!

Hermanazo
08-11-2011
Bring back Ruth Lorenzo and give her the crown she deserves!
unclekevo
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by actually:
“Aparently the risk where bottom, kitty was 2nd and johnny 3rd so technically he was not in the bottom 2 !!


Johnny should return !!!”

He was in the bottom 3 in the first place, not the bottom 2.
Abigail88
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by actually:
“Aparently the risk where bottom, kitty was 2nd and johnny 3rd so technically he was not in the bottom 2 !!


Johnny should return !!!”

But the format was announced before the official voting began. There would be a double elimination, and that is the usual format of a double elimination

Series 3: Bottom 3 was Dionne (eliminated automatically), showdown between Ashley and Kerry

Series 7: Katie (eliminated automatically), showdown between Wagner and Mary

It's only fair he doesn't come back!
Abigail88
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Well, if it's based on the fact of who the judges got rid of and not a public vote type of thing..............lowest votes etc.

Say for the sake of an argument that Johnny got more votes than Kitty and the judges got rid of Johnny (which they did) then surely he'd still be eligible to come back the same as Amelia.

I think I've made that sound the way I want it to LOL!

”

When I said 'the obvious choice would be Amelia' I really meant from my perspective (and the fact that is the general perspective on DS abotu the 4 who were voted off first: just see the poll)
They would have to open up a public vote for 2 Shoes, James, Amelia, Jonjo, which Amelia would most likely win anyway lol

And no, based on the format of the results, Amelia is probably more eligible to return thatn Johnny
*Eileen*
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by bouncer11:
“The public paid good money to get rid of "Johny" and "The Risk" so why should either of them come back.”

No the public didn't. The public paid good money to vote for their favourite to stay in, not to get rid of any one specific act. This would only be the case if the vote were to evict.
Floh
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“But the format was announced before the official voting began. There would be a double elimination, and that is the usual format of a double elimination

Series 3: Bottom 3 was Dionne (eliminated automatically), showdown between Ashley and Kerry

Series 7: Katie (eliminated automatically), showdown between Wagner and Mary

It's only fair he doesn't come back!”

With Frankie now gone, three acts were eliminated, when it was only to be two. Johnny come home!
tomi-08
08-11-2011
Sheeeeesh, just get over Amelia ALREADY. :yawn:
auldlangsyne
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“I was a fan of Johnny; not a huge fan but I thought he was the most genuine person on there and technically had a great, but odd (which isn't bad) voice.

But he has been voted off, based on lack of votes. If they were to bring back a contestant who had been voted off (due to low public votes) I would say bring Johnny back as it is only fair (even though I prefer Sophie) beause he was the last one to leave.

However, it would simply be unfair and I hope Johnny fans realise this.

If they are to bring any contestants back (which, again I dont think they should) it should be one of the 4 contestants who was eliminated by the judges and not based on our votes. Obviously, the choice would be Amelia.

Even so, I find it a bit hypocritical when some forum members slate the fact Ashford was brought back into The Risk, and then I see some of the same ones asking for Johnny to be reinstated!

Oh, and as a footnote, Mr Blonde you have my condolences ”

Thats absolute rubbish don't you understand, James Michael, Amelia Lily etc have as much right to come back as Judges Houses acts, they were booted out in round 2 of judges houses it just so happened to be on stage so people assume they made the final, they didn't, they didn't even record the charity single with the rest of the group.

It has to be Johnny any other decision will be greeted with outrage.

James Michael should've been chosen above Frankie from the start
BlueStreak
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“When I said 'the obvious choice would be Amelia' I really meant from my perspective (and the fact that is the general perspective on DS abotu the 4 who were voted off first: just see the poll)
They would have to open up a public vote for 2 Shoes, James, Amelia, Jonjo, which Amelia would most likely win anyway lol

And no, based on the format of the results, Amelia is probably more eligible to return thatn Johnny”

No, I understand what you meant. I was trying to work out in my own mind that as Johnny was sent home by the judges...............IF he polled more votes than Kitty (so had it been based on lowest votes she would have gone) would he fall into the same category as 'Amelia and others'.

I've probably confused myself to be fair LOL!

Abigail88
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by tomi-08:
“Sheeeeesh, just get over Amelia ALREADY. :yawn:”

I'm completely over it. I dont think anyone should come back if you read the OP
Benllech
08-11-2011
Amelia would get it hard.
Reggie Rebel
08-11-2011
They should put everyone who's been eliminated together in a super/just above average group.

Let's face it dafter things have happened
Alicey
08-11-2011
I hope they don't have an elimation next week.

Just combined the votes from Week6 and 7.

I don't want a 2 person Craig/Marcus final. How utterly tedious that would be.
I heart Kelly
08-11-2011
bring back jade!
ciaociao
08-11-2011
I suppose the one good thing if Johnny doesn't come back, is that he's clearly had a great time and he's left while so many people want him to return. Sort of like leaving the party while it's still in full swing!
BlueStreak
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by ciaociao:
“I suppose the one good thing if Johnny doesn't come back, is that he's clearly had a great time and he's left while so many people want him to return. Sort of like leaving the party while it's still in full swing! ”

Agreed. Leaving not under a cloud but under sunshine.

He wasn't going to win of that I am certain, but he enjoyed himself, made folk (not all) smile and hopefully he will get some work out of it.

Result in my book
oxfordruse
08-11-2011
Originally Posted by bouncer11:
“The public paid good money to get rid of "Johny" and "The Risk" so why should either of them come back.”

Ah, it's the good old "we paid good money" argument resurrected from BB7 days... nostalgia.

Only this time, that argument stands up even less to scrutiny.

You haven't paid money to get rid of anybody... you've paid money to say whom you like. It's a vote to save. So bringing back someone that you didn't happen to like anyway is not invalidating your vote... you never paid to say you wanted them gone.

In any case, you're not paying for an outcome. You haven't paid to save or eliminate anyone; you've paid to express an opinion. If loads of people express the same opinion as you, then yay. But it's not guaranteed. Would you start demanding your money back because the person you voted to save got eliminated? Because that's essentially the same argument you're espousing.

I'm not saying Johnny should be brought back, by the way - I loved him but he'd just get eliminated again, so what's the point... plus such producer favouritism would be distasteful, as it was in BB7. I'm just pointing out how facile and fallible the "good money" argument is... Endemol/C4 should never have had to give that voting money back all those years ago. Yes, it still annoys me!
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