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Is Matt Flint overrated?
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frally
09-11-2011
Following Matt Flint's appearance in the pro dance, I've been alarmed by his fans' calls for him to appear as a regular dancer/choreographer on SCD and even do some tap solos.

I've never been impressed by him because:
1. he had an easy ride in SYTYCD as most of his dances were of his genre, including tap against his main rival in the final
2. in his US appearance, he fell and was outdanced by two teenaged tappers
3. he was terrible in the pro dance: vulgar hip gyrations, out of time, struggling with the props, kept sticking his tongue out and even the cameras avoided focusing on him towards the end; and
4. he helped choreograph the boys pro dance which was pretty dismal.

Am I the only one who thinks so?
BuddyBontheNet
09-11-2011
I don't know if you are the only one who thinks that, but I disagree with you.
cymrugirl
09-11-2011
No - I agree. (Angry Luke woz robbed)

It's kind of insulting to the pros when people on here want a dancer with no background in ballroom to teach the celebs! But then again, the dances have become unrecognisable of late and turning into showdances each week, the ballroom element seems to be getting sidelined.
Miriam_R
09-11-2011
I didn't see Matt on the US SYTYCD so can't really comment there. I thought the Boys Pro dance was ok but didn't love it (didn't love the girls one either).

I think Matt is a good dancer but I actually prefered Luke out of all the boys on the UK version of SYTYCD. So, that coupled with not loving the Boys Pro dance on Strictly, no, I don't personaly think he is ready to (or even should ever) appear on SCD as a Professional. The only Pros I want to see on Strictly are those that used to compete at a proffesional level in Ballroom and Latin dancing. If they won World Championships in it even better (but not a must ).
Jan2555*GG*
09-11-2011
Blimey....your brave OP

I liked Matt on SYTYCD

If that dance in the results show is his best work though then I wasnt impressed. However he isnt the choreographer he is Mandy Moores assistant choreographer....and I dont know what shes doing on Strictly anyway she doesnt have the background either.

He couldnt be pro on Strictly he doesnt have a latin and ballroom background....just being a dancer isnt enough.
Camis
09-11-2011
Well, given the fact he won SYTYCD, clearly a lot of people liked him (as I did). However, he isn't a ballroom or latin dancer so I agree that he wouldn't be ideal as a pro on SCD.

As for the boys dance - well, he didn't have any rehearsal time and danced it purely on knowing the choreography, so it's not really surprising he probably wasn't as sharp as he could have been. Given that Anton would have been the only other option... - no, doesn't bear thinking about!
frally
09-11-2011
Originally Posted by Miriam_R:
“I didn't see Matt on the US SYTYCD so can't really comment there.”

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1RJ...eature=related
SCD-Observer
09-11-2011
Originally Posted by Camis:
“Well, given the fact he won SYTYCD, clearly a lot of people liked him (as I did). However, he isn't a ballroom or latin dancer so I agree that he wouldn't be ideal as a pro on SCD.

As for the boys dance - well, he didn't have any rehearsal time and danced it purely on knowing the choreography, so it's not really surprising he probably wasn't as sharp as he could have been. Given that Anton would have been the only other option... - no, doesn't bear thinking about!”

Matt Flint shouldn't be in SCD because he is not ballroom trained. But from his rumba with Kirsty I would have thought he's done BETTER than Anton in that sense. His Paso (with Luke and Lee) was very good also, again better than Anton. So as an Anton replacement, if pushed, yes, he's a better one than Anton as far as latin dances are concerned. But then again, any pros' latin would have been better than Anton, except that Anton mormon love child Jared of last year. That boy was dismal.
SCD-Observer
09-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1RJ...eature=related”

He 'fell' because that tall contestant overdid the throw...
Rose-2010
09-11-2011
I didn't love the pro dance choreo, but seen worse ones.
BuddyBontheNet
09-11-2011
I don't think he is over rated as a dancer, but he's not suitable as a pro for SCD - just to clarify my earlier post!

PS I thought the 'fall' was choreographed as part of the rivalry!
TheAuburnEnigma
09-11-2011
I do sort of agree with you OP (At first I wanted Lee to win SYTYCD, but after he left my allegiance went to Luke) - he had trained in practically every style and I don't think he did do Hip-Hop in the end. Funny how the boys' face-off was clearly geared towards Matt (I think they only just got away with it by saying that Luke used to do tap when he was younger).

As a pro on SCD - I don't think he'd "qualify" as such. Even Jared I think had some sort of training in Ballroom and Latin (although I think West Coast Swing (like Artem did in his Jive iirc) was more his specialism) - the problem with him was that he was too young really and hadn't got much experience (his main thing was being one of the dancers in the High School Musical films). Matt would probably have to have some sort of training in order to be considered as a pro, and even then I'm not sure he'd get the nod (not particularly tall - he's about 5' 8, and not much experience to go on).

In short, he's a good dancer, I'm not disputing that, but as it is, there is no way that he should appear on Strictly as a pro.
Chimerari
09-11-2011
I was completely fed up with him on SYTYCD, a large part was because of the judges' constant gushing, and he didn't get any dances that were truly out of his comfort zone. Overall season 2 of SYTYCD didn't leave a lasting impression on me, I didn't even bother to watch the finale
And yes when Matt came on screen I groaned and looked away XD
Gill P
09-11-2011
I was delighted that Matt won SYTYCD and pleased he danced on Saturday. I didn't like Luke's dancing at all.
franglemand
09-11-2011
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
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He couldnt be pro on Strictly he doesnt have a latin and ballroom background....just being a dancer isnt enough.”

Yes, exactly this. Matt wasn't my favourite on SYTYCD but I liked him well enough and I do think he's a good dancer and, judging by his solos, a good tap choreographer. I love the routine he performed (and apparently choreographed, along with the other two guys) with Jess and Nick on the final of the American show, despite the fall (which I didn't realise at first wasn't choreographed and still can't tell if it's the result of Matt misjudging the jump into the lift or Nick releasing him at an odd angle). I didn't like the boys' routine on Saturday because I found the choreography slightly lazy and the execution was a bit of a mess all round, frankly, but that doesn't really filter into why opinion of Matt as a possible pro for Strictly.

Quite simply, he isn't a professional ballroom and Latin dancer therefore I don't think he is qualified to be a professional ballroom and Latin dancer on Strictly. The pros on Strictly don't just need to be able to pick up routines as they did on SYTYCD, they need to know the ballroom and Latin dances well enough to teach the technique to beginners and to choreograph routines in those styles. Matt did well for a tap/ jazz dancer in the ballroom/ Latin styles in SYTYCD but unless he had a lot more training in those styles than he has let on, I am unconvinced that he has the necessary knowledge or experience to teach and choreograph ballroom and Latin dances.
frally
09-11-2011
Originally Posted by Camis:
“As for the boys dance - well, he didn't have any rehearsal time and danced it purely on knowing the choreography, so it's not really surprising he probably wasn't as sharp as he could have been. Given that Anton would have been the only other option... - no, doesn't bear thinking about!”

Or just have the four pros without Matt
tangos_with_tim
10-11-2011
I loved Matt on SYTYCD, although by the final I would have been equally happy if Luke had won. (In fact I thought any of the top 4, including Lee and Israel, would have been deserving winners.)

But Matt shouldn't become a Strictly pro, that's not his background.
Camis
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“Or just have the four pros without Matt”

But that would have meant more rehearsals to sort out the placement of the dancers - I guess if they didn't have time for a rehearsal with Matt, they didn't have time to rearrange everybody. Or were you suggesting they left a gap where Artem would have been
Jan2555*GG*
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Camis:
“But that would have meant more rehearsals to sort out the placement of the dancers - I guess if they didn't have time for a rehearsal with Matt, they didn't have time to rearrange everybody. Or were you suggesting they left a gap where Artem would have been ”

They could have just stuck artems face on one of the microphones.
kassieq
10-11-2011
Matt wasn't my favourite of the final four, but he was okay. That same throw was in this routine and he was supposed to land on all fours, just looked a little untidy. The following is a clip of the final four choreographed by Mandy Moore, so she has form for hip thrusts -.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luClY...eature=related
SCD-Observer
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“They could have just stuck artems face on one of the microphones.”

Okay, I like Matt Flint in SYTYCD but the above comment makes me .
BuddyBontheNet
10-11-2011
In that clip I don't see the untidiness you see, but even though I preferred Matt to Luke, I do think Luke is better than Matt in it. For some reason Luke's height and lankiness works very well for him. Both were better than the other two guys.

They are two extremes - a short guy and a tall guy who can both dance well. The tall guy has bleached blond hair and looks edgy/contemporary, the short guy has an Armani model's head and would appeal to a wider group. It's down to personal preference, but I prefer Matt to look at and to watch.

He's still not for SCD though.
frally
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“They could have just stuck artems face on one of the microphones.”

Great idea! At least then I would have been able to concentrate on admiring Pasha's balletic grace instead of being distracted by Matt's bumbling.
kassieq
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“In that clip I don't see the untidiness you see, but even though I preferred Matt to Luke, I do think Luke is better than Matt in it. For some reason Luke's height and lankiness works very well for him. Both were better than the other two guys.

They are two extremes - a short guy and a tall guy who can both dance well. The tall guy has bleached blond hair and looks edgy/contemporary, the short guy has an Armani model's head and would appeal to a wider group. It's down to personal preference, but I prefer Matt to look at and to watch.

He's still not for SCD though.”

Sorry, didn't make myself clear, meant it looked untidy in the US one. Luke wasn't my favourite dancer either.
BuddyBontheNet
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by kassieq:
“Sorry, didn't make myself clear, meant it looked untidy in the US one. Luke wasn't my favourite dancer either.”

Ooops! Maybe it was me! I always thought the 'fall' in the US performance was choreographed and until I read this thread had no idea it wasn't deliberate.
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