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Is Matt Flint overrated?
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tigragirl
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Ooops! Maybe it was me! I always thought the 'fall' in the US performance was choreographed and until I read this thread had no idea it wasn't deliberate. ”

yes but unless the original poster has inside info you may be right - the fall may have been part of the routine. If you look he lands the throw then turns in his ankle, if he was going to fall I would have thought it would show in his knee too.
tigragirl
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Chimerari:
“I was completely fed up with him on SYTYCD, a large part was because of the judges' constant gushing, and he didn't get any dances that were truly out of his comfort zone. Overall season 2 of SYTYCD didn't leave a lasting impression on me, I didn't even bother to watch the finale
And yes when Matt came on screen I groaned and looked away XD”

I always chuckle when I read posts like this

Matt trained at Laine as did Luke and Lee B went to Italia Conti - they all had the same training - the same dance teachers teach at many of the Dance Colleges in London so they could have all been trained by the same people.

I liked all 3 guys above - Lee B really grew on me, at first I though he was terrible but the second live show he seemed to have settled down. I thought Luke was great but Matt just edged it for me but only because I prefer a smaller dancer to to a tall one in most cases.

As much as I like all 3 dancers on SYTYCD I wouldn't want to see any of them as professionals on Strictly ( I don't suppose the existing profs would either) - they don't have the technical knowledge for ballroom or latin.
frally
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by tigragirl:
“yes but unless the original poster has inside info you may be right - the fall may have been part of the routine. If you look he lands the throw then turns in his ankle, if he was going to fall I would have thought it would show in his knee too.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1RJ...eature=related

Matt's fall was too inelegant to be choreographed. After Matt is thrown, he under-rotates in the air and lands too early on his back/left foot. This causes him to fall over on both knees. Also notice that Jess the third dancer lands a minor jump as Matt falls. It's unlikely that Matt the star would have choreographed a fall for himself in his US prime time TV debut while Jess gets to land on his feet.
tigragirl
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1RJ...eature=related

Matt's fall was too inelegant to be choreographed. After Matt is thrown, he under-rotates in the air and lands too early on his back/left foot. This causes him to fall over on both knees. Also notice that Jess the third dancer lands a minor jump as Matt falls. It's unlikely that Matt the star would have choreographed a fall for himself in his US prime time TV debut while Jess gets to land on his feet.”

he does fall onto his knees - but its his ankle that turns in before he drops to his knees. The fact that people have commented that they didn't realise it wasn't part of the dance shows his talent and quick thinking to disguise the fall - if that is what it is.

All dancers will have some mistake they have to cover at some point in the career. How they do it is the important thinkg I know my son fell in a very important and very fierce dance audition for one of the top dance colleges in this country. He recovered the fall well and got a place at college.
ESPIONdansant
11-11-2011
A Who is Matt Flint?
B Why would I care?
C Does anyone really bother about stand-ins in a poxy group dance in horrid trousers?
Jan2555*GG*
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“A Who is Matt Flint?
B Why would I care?
C Does anyone really bother about stand-ins in a poxy group dance in horrid trousers?”

Love it
SCD-Observer
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“A Who is Matt Flint?
B Why would I care?
C Does anyone really bother about stand-ins in a poxy group dance in horrid trousers?”

No, however much I enjoyed Matt in SYTYCD, I don't think he's good enough to become a pro in SCD.

Still, it's not difficult to see how he's charming some people here.

Look at his American Smooth-styled Foxtrot here, and this. Go straight to after 1:40 in the clips.

Also, his rumba with Kirsty. Skip to after 2:18.

Also, his paso at the semi-finals.

And if you can't get enough of horrid shiny trousers, then feast your eyes on this.
Kmc1978
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1RJ...eature=related

Matt's fall was too inelegant to be choreographed. After Matt is thrown, he under-rotates in the air and lands too early on his back/left foot. This causes him to fall over on both knees. Also notice that Jess the third dancer lands a minor jump as Matt falls. It's unlikely that Matt the star would have choreographed a fall for himself in his US prime time TV debut while Jess gets to land on his feet.”

I'll refer you to this post on page 1

Originally Posted by kassieq:
“Matt wasn't my favourite of the final four, but he was okay. That same throw was in this routine and he was supposed to land on all fours, just looked a little untidy. The following is a clip of the final four choreographed by Mandy Moore, so she has form for hip thrusts -.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luClY...eature=related”

So in summary, it was a choreographed fall, he just didn't land it as tidily as he did in the UK dance, but then I believe they didn't have much training time for the US one.

I wanted Lee B to win sytycd but I preferred Matt to Luke.
allyfree
11-11-2011
Had never heard of him before last week but was looking forward to seeing him after reading all the hype .... I was totally non-plussed by his appearance and couldn't care less if I never see him again
frally
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by Kmc1978:
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So in summary, it was a choreographed fall, he just didn't land it as tidily as he did in the UK dance, but then I believe they didn't have much training time for the US one.”

In the UK dance Matt managed a wee bit more rotation to land on his front/right foot (just). Not sure whether he fluffed this too as I've seen ice skaters land such jumps upright, not crouched, and in more difficult conditions. No reason for Matt to be under-rehearsed (again?).Both US tappers were free as they were out long before the final and Matt wasn't appearing in anything else was he?
SCD-Observer
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“In the UK dance Matt managed a wee bit more rotation to land on his front/right foot (just). Not sure whether he fluffed this too as I've seen ice skaters land such jumps upright, not crouched, and in more difficult conditions. No reason for Matt to be under-rehearsed (again?).Both US tappers were free as they were out long before the final and Matt wasn't appearing in anything else was he?”

The case of 'anything can happen on the dancefloor'? Don't all dancers experience mistakes/falls in their public performances, no matter how experience or talented they are? Is Matt supposed to be infallible (pardon the pun)?
ArmchairCritic
11-11-2011
Have I missed something? Is there any suggestion that Matt will replace anyone on SCD? I think he would be the first to agree that he wasn't qualified, and choreography is where he is concentrating at the moment. The dance on saturday was very typical of Mandy Moore, not sure how much input Matt would have had into it, but it was great experience for him. As for his performance, not sure why people are having a go at someone standing in at last moment. Seems the bitterness of SYTYCD stills continues. Shame
frally
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by ArmchairCritic:
“Have I missed something? Is there any suggestion that Matt will replace anyone on SCD? I think he would be the first to agree that he wasn't qualified, and choreography is where he is concentrating at the moment. The dance on saturday was very typical of Mandy Moore, not sure how much input Matt would have had into it, but it was great experience for him. As for his performance, not sure why people are having a go at someone standing in at last moment. Seems the bitterness of SYTYCD stills continues. Shame ”

You obviously have not been reading the BBC blogs:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...he-sexes.shtml
ArmchairCritic
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by frally:
“You obviously have not been reading the BBC blogs:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...he-sexes.shtml”

I have read that people liked seeing Matt again which is understandable as there was no tour of SYTYCD, therefore no further opportunity to see Matt (or indeed any other contestants) dance. I expect had Luke or Lee stepped in last minute people would have been just as happy.

I think this thread should ask is Mandy Moore overated as she choreographed the boys routine. As for Matt's dancing skills, then that is a matter of taste, but I suspect there are a few thousand people who would disagree with you otherwise he wouldn't have won SYTYCD.
tigragirl
11-11-2011
as for Matt being under rehearsed again ( as you put it ) Matt teaches around London and lectures and workshops across the UK - who knows what he was doing - he may not have been on stage performing but he could have been tied into contracts doing other things.

He may be concentrating on choreography rather than being on the stage and maybe thats why he has been working with Mandy Moore. Don't forget he choreographed the winning comic relief dance last year, maybe that whet his appetite.

I expect Lee B or Luke would have had similar negative comments from some and positive comments from others on forums and blogs.

All 3 (and the rest) entertained many of us for 12 weeks and I am quite happy to see their dance careers improve as a result and encourage more people to take an interest. These are the people who keep our Theatres going. Those of us that don't live in London rely on touring shows, we need performers to allow this to continue and be available to everyone wherever they live. These people have to fight for their places on the stage, getting knockbacks must be soul destroying lets not knock them further.
Nicola123
05-12-2013
He should not be brought into strictly come dancing to work with celeb as he is a tap dancer not a ballroom or Latin dancer.
RedRoseRebel
05-12-2013
Originally Posted by Nicola123:
“He should not be brought into strictly come dancing to work with celeb as he is a tap dancer not a ballroom or Latin dancer.”

so you waited 2 years to tell us that, thanks.
BuddyBontheNet
05-12-2013
I can't even remember my posts on this thread - thought I was going mad!
Emma2121
05-12-2013
He may not be suitable for strictly as it is ballroom and latin but to call him overrated is ludicrous he is a fantastic dancer!
sam33
06-12-2013
never heard of him so he must be overrated
Jan2555*GG*
06-12-2013
Blimey hoe did this thread suddenly come to the front page spooky
Elan
06-12-2013
I just read the whole of this thread, as I couldn't understand how a thread from two years ago was on the front page, but like Matt Flint and love SYTYCD. I didn't think it looked like a fall, part of the choreography, but as someone else said quite possible it is and he recovered it well.

I didn't realise there was a lot of bitterness about him winning SYTYCD he is a wonderful dancer and has a lot of personality which comes across in his dances. I went to the season 1final and really wanted Tommy to win but he has still done brilliantly out of not winning.
TerryM22
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by sam33:
“never heard of him so he must be overrated ”



Hi Sam, Welcome To You
BuddyBontheNet
06-12-2013
Both Matt and Tommi were brilliant to watch, but I wanted Matt to win.
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