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Results:Do you think bringing back four previously eliminated acts was the right thing to do?
Yes
84 (28.67%)
No
209 (71.33%)
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Do you think bringing back four previously eliminated acts was the right thing to do?
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Kapellmeister
10-11-2011
No. It should've been Johnny.
Fudd
10-11-2011
Now I've thought it through, they only had two options - bring back the mentor's week 1 eliminations or somehow carry the votes over a week. They probably should've done the latter but I'm looking forward to Saturday so...
George7
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by MrsWatermelon:
“So it's fair to ruin the chances of the remaining acts?

You have a really weird obsession and hatred for the X Factor, I really dislike people that come to a forum just to be negative wherever possible.



He was eliminated at least partially due to the public vote, it would be a slap in the face for the people who pay money to vote if they overruled that and gave him another chance. At least these four have not faced the public vote.”

'The four' went through the same process that the other contestants went through and were eliminated by the judges. I didn't agree with some of the judges decisions, but this is the process the production team put in place.

Now what they've done is made a U turn, effectively gone back in time and changed the rules.

There is one of the four that I would have liked to be in the final - but not by the method they've now employed.

It should have been one step back and Johnny back in...
Emmersonne
10-11-2011
If I were Producer, I would plan to have a double eviction is the semi final at outset, then you can afford to lose one person in unforseen circumstances. Maybe even have the QF as a double as well, then you have a real contingency.
dog_eat_dog
10-11-2011
Yes, it was the right thing to do.

I honestly don't get all the bitching over it.
InMyArms
10-11-2011
I'm in the minority here!

If they had brought back a contestant who had been eliminated by the public, there would have been a shit storm as it could be seen as misleading viewers - what is the point in saving their favourites when they are going to get brought back anyway? They could have continued and had two in the final, but I don't think two would make an interesting final considering there are two days and they've booked Wembley for the first time. They could have not had an elimination one week, but that would make for a dull show.

I think this is the best way, it gives the four the chance to face the public vote. It is a minor step back for the remaining acts but they have a 4 weeks promotion advantage over the returnee. Whoever returns will not win.
superspooky123
10-11-2011
Although i don't think its very fair am also exited because there are a lot of boring bland contestants this year so i say bring on someone that has the x factor plus it will make for good tv
Kapellmeister
10-11-2011
I hope the audience start chanting 'John-ny, John-ny-, John-ny' on Saturday.
Fudd
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“I hope the audience start chanting 'John-ny, John-ny-, John-ny' on Saturday.”

The same audience that dumped him in the bottom three last week?
Abriel
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The same audience that dumped him in the bottom three last week?”

somehow I don't think the votes cast by the audience last week were the deciding factor
Abriel
10-11-2011
Personally i really hope no-one votes - what twould they do then?
Fudd
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Abriel:
“somehow I don't think the votes cast by the audience last week were the deciding factor”

How did Johnny end up there if not by number of votes?
RedRoseRebel
10-11-2011
I think its one of the fairest things they could have done really.

I think bringing back Johnny or The Risk after being eliminated wouldnt have been fair. It was a shock result and maybe not the one the producers anticipated but they didnt get votes

However, if they had reinstated both Johnny and The Risk as if the double didnt happen and maybe saved it for later in the comp that may have worked. They would of course have lost huge revenue and have to refund all phone stakes.
hippykitty
10-11-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“How did Johnny end up there if not by number of votes?”

I think audience in this context means the studio audience rather than the voting public?
Vol
10-11-2011
No, this is the official X Factor jumping the shark moment.
George7
11-11-2011
I suspect some people don't understand that people did not vote to eliminate Johnny and The Risk, they were voting to keep their favourite act in.

Any particular act could be many people's second or third favourite, and yet that act could go because many people will (understandably) vote once for their favourite.

...and as for comments about voters claiming their money back if Johnny had been brought back, that couldn't happen because they weren't voting to evict someone.

The only people who may have cause to claim phone vote money back were those who voted for Frankie...
MrsWatermelon
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by George7:
“'The four' went through the same process that the other contestants went through and were eliminated by the judges. I didn't agree with some of the judges decisions, but this is the process the production team put in place.”

Which made a lot of people angry and was clearly a bad move.

I still maintain that it's better to bring people back who never got a chance to face a public vote, than to bring someone back who was proved to be the least popular to the public last week.
Retrospective
11-11-2011
It should really be Johnny or the Risk that get a second chance as they went out while Frankie was kept in.
Joannexx
11-11-2011
I don't agree with bringing anyone back, they could have had a week with no eliminations, it has worked for Big Brother when people have walked out. The show really is a farce and will turn viewers off with stupid twists like these. It would be a huge joke if someone came back and won, would that make the judge who had kicked them off the winning judge? Not likely to happen but it would serve them right. I feel like it is messing more with peoples lives, I fully expect anyone voted in this week are just as likely to be gone next week. I bet the remaining people are annoyed having slogged through the theme weeks and fought for their place each week
Shayod
11-11-2011
No fairest thing was jonnie but that dicission makes no money
Next year the acts that get put out in first week just need to sabotage one of the acts about week five get them thrown out then they can get a fee pass back in like this lot
TXF0429
11-11-2011
Though I'm not complaining, because one of my favourites (Amelia) could be returning, I think that it is unfair on the 6 left. Imo, they should have stuck with the six and had a Final Two on the final week.
MrsWatermelon
11-11-2011
It's pointless to bring Johnny back, someone who got voted out in week 5 or whatever it was is not going to win.

Originally Posted by Joannexx:
“I don't agree with bringing anyone back, they could have had a week with no eliminations, it has worked for Big Brother when people have walked out. The show really is a farce and will turn viewers off with stupid twists like these. It would be a huge joke if someone came back and won, would that make the judge who had kicked them off the winning judge? Not likely to happen but it would serve them right. I feel like it is messing more with peoples lives, I fully expect anyone voted in this week are just as likely to be gone next week. I bet the remaining people are annoyed having slogged through the theme weeks and fought for their place each week”

It's not turning people off X Factor, interest in it has hardly ever been higher with the amount of headlines and TV/radio discussions it has prompted this year.
CloudyE
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“No. It should've been Johnny.”

That would have saved all of this mess TBH and the the majority of the public would not have given a second thought. But, this way, publicity, publicity, publicity.......

Also, Johnny may have been asked and refused, who knows?
George7
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by MrsWatermelon:
“Which made a lot of people angry and was clearly a bad move.

I still maintain that it's better to bring people back who never got a chance to face a public vote, than to bring someone back who was proved to be the least popular to the public last week.”

There are many aspects to X-Factor which have proved to be bad moves and very unpopular with the audience but the production team haven't done anything to correct matters.

What they've done this time is change the rules mid-game (which I suspect was the plan from the outset).

Johnny and The Risk were not the 'least popular' by any means, it was the voting system that made it appear that way.

One act may only be 20% of the countries favourite and be placed first, whilst another act could potentially be 100% of the countries second favourite act and still end up going out.

...anyway, at the moment you are in the minority, but thanks for your comments.
George7
11-11-2011
Originally Posted by kochspostulates:
“...If Johnny had come back then the people who voted last week would need their money back.”

Why? People were not voting to eliminate.
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