The Guardian's take on Frankie Coccozza's exit
Great article - thanks for posting the link. Yes I also couldn't help noticing that Frankie was providing the show with much needed tabloid front pages. As no doubt the weekend reverse twist will do. It's beginning to look like a show in serious decline and I predict we will see quite a few more shocks/reversals before the run is over ...
Excellent article ... think they should think of giving the show a 'rest', and on any return ... no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!
Originally Posted by gogglegirl:
“Excellent article ... think they should think of giving the show a 'rest', and on any return ... no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
“Excellent article ... think they should think of giving the show a 'rest', and on any return ... no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
I think eight months is a long enough rest to be fair; especially if they revamp the panel. As long as the twist only causes a few flounces - or gains a few viewers - then it'll be forgotten about come next year.
The biggest problem with the twists this year is the base of the twists have been fine but they haven't taken them in the right direction.
Why does he call him " diminutive"
I don't know what height he is, but at least 4" higher than Gary
He's pretty tall really..
I don't know what height he is, but at least 4" higher than Gary
He's pretty tall really..
Originally Posted by Queen Boo:
“diminutive? yes, strange remark. As was calling Alexandra "Foghorn" Burke a shy angel. Yeah. Right.”
“diminutive? yes, strange remark. As was calling Alexandra "Foghorn" Burke a shy angel. Yeah. Right.”
I think he confused her with Leona. Actually the comments below are rather interesting
Originally Posted by labasheedy:
“Why does he call him " diminutive"
I don't know what height he is, but at least 4" higher than Gary
He's pretty tall really..”
“Why does he call him " diminutive"
I don't know what height he is, but at least 4" higher than Gary
He's pretty tall really..”
Gary's only a 5'5" manlet at best!
Originally Posted by twingle:
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
Did they take the Guardian default position and blame the coalition ?
Originally Posted by twingle:
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
Agree, good post.
I like this bit were he talks about 'pre-arranged categories' and then clearly makes up the categories based on the finalists. 
Quote:
“The eventual competitors also carefully fit pre-arranged categories: Potential Payday (2010 finallists One Direction, 2008 finallists JLS), Working-Class Hero (2009 winner Joe McElderry), Shy Angel (2008 winner Alexandra Burke) and Bad-Ass: last year's finalist Cher Lloyd and, this year, Cocozza.”
“The eventual competitors also carefully fit pre-arranged categories: Potential Payday (2010 finallists One Direction, 2008 finallists JLS), Working-Class Hero (2009 winner Joe McElderry), Shy Angel (2008 winner Alexandra Burke) and Bad-Ass: last year's finalist Cher Lloyd and, this year, Cocozza.”
Originally Posted by twingle:
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...acked-x-factor
I think they are pretty spot on!”
Great article!
Originally Posted by Queen Boo:
“diminutive? yes, strange remark. As was calling Alexandra "Foghorn" Burke a shy angel. Yeah. Right.”
“diminutive? yes, strange remark. As was calling Alexandra "Foghorn" Burke a shy angel. Yeah. Right.”
Snigger. He obviously hasn't even been watching the show or he would have seen just how shy this angel is when she was a judge
I was just saying in another thread that Simon would be on the phone to Garry congratulating him on his inspired choice of Frankie who couldn't sing over other more talented contestants.
Its front page on The Sun which is exactly the sort of media exposure the show needs.
Its front page on The Sun which is exactly the sort of media exposure the show needs.
Originally Posted by gogglegirl:
“.. no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
“.. no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
This. Enough with the gimmicks and novelty acts. It worked once with Jedward, but that's it, a one off. The likes of Katie Weasel and Frankie should never have been put through to the live shows.
As for the judges, I don't really care who's on the panel now Simon has gone. I think the changes need to happen backstage. Get rid of the producers who are responsible for this year's farce.
Originally Posted by gogglegirl:
“Excellent article ... think they should think of giving the show a 'rest', and on any return ... no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
“Excellent article ... think they should think of giving the show a 'rest', and on any return ... no joke acts, people who can actually hold a tune might be an idea as well!”
But it would be a talent competition
Meaningful, articulate and fair judging could also be an improvement if it was such a competition!
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“This. Enough with the gimmicks and novelty acts. It worked once with Jedward, but that's it, a one off. The likes of Katie Weasel and Frankie should never have been put through to the live shows.
As for the judges, I don't really care who's on the panel now Simon has gone. I think the changes need to happen backstage. Get rid of the producers who are responsible for this year's farce.”
“This. Enough with the gimmicks and novelty acts. It worked once with Jedward, but that's it, a one off. The likes of Katie Weasel and Frankie should never have been put through to the live shows.
As for the judges, I don't really care who's on the panel now Simon has gone. I think the changes need to happen backstage. Get rid of the producers who are responsible for this year's farce.”
Whilst I agree that the aforementioned talentless idiots shouldn't have been put through the point is it provides great publicity for the show.
I would go so far as to say Frankie has the X Factor! He cant sing but he has the sex and drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. He fits the mould.
It's the 'viewer-deserted' bit that always flummoxes me. Ratings may be down a bit - and it is only a bit - but it's still by far the biggest show in telly in terms of profile and everything else.
Originally Posted by craftwerc:
“It's the 'viewer-deserted' bit that always flummoxes me. Ratings may be down a bit - and it is only a bit - but it's still by far the biggest show in telly in terms of profile and everything else.”
“It's the 'viewer-deserted' bit that always flummoxes me. Ratings may be down a bit - and it is only a bit - but it's still by far the biggest show in telly in terms of profile and everything else.”
Wishful thinking no doubt. Snobs like Lawson would love to ban all reality tv
