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9200T Missing Recordings - Again
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MikeWill34
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle:
“And your evidence for this claim is ..?”

As I said this is my personal opinion, my justification is that if you look at the release notes for v26 on the humax site (for 9150 and 9300) you will see that the 9200's bugs are fixed.
Also the bugs did not show up before DSO when the broadcasters changed the method of transmission when there were no analogue channels.

Apologies for mentioning v21 in earlier posts, my humax is on v23. I would not like to go back to v21 as the lack of response on the remote was awful.
Last edited by MikeWill34 : 12-04-2013 at 21:09
Jamie6767
12-04-2013
I guess Humax have washed their hands of the 9200 now?
Martin Liddle
13-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“Also the bugs did not show up before DSO when the broadcasters changed the method of transmission when there were no analogue channels.”

What change in the method of transmission? The power was boosted significantly but what other changes do you believe happened?
Bob1942
13-04-2013
Could this be same channel from two transmitter problem? My TVonics will not record ITV1 HD
Jamie6767
13-04-2013
Not for me - Im solely on Crystal Palace having done a manual tune.
MikeWill34
13-04-2013
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle:
“What change in the method of transmission? The power was boosted significantly but what other changes do you believe happened?”

If I remember correctly they also changed the encoding / modulation from 8k to 64k.
Martin Liddle
14-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“If I remember correctly they also changed the encoding / modulation from 8k to 64k.”

Yes but that change has been going on progressively for seven years or so.
MikeWill34
14-04-2013
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle:
“Yes but that change has been going on progressively for seven years or so.”

BBC mux was the last to go (at DSO) change makes TV more suseptable to pixelation due to interference, so maybe 9200 is relying on a now less reliable source of information.
Big-les
14-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“BBC mux was the last to go (at DSO) change makes TV more suseptable to pixelation due to interference, so maybe 9200 is relying on a now less reliable source of information.”

My 9200 is working fine on v23 and whatever the broadcasters are throwing at it, which is by the way 8k way past DSO.
MikeWill34
14-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“My 9200 is working fine on v23 and whatever the broadcasters are throwing at it, which is by the way 8k way past DSO.”

Glad to hear your 9200 is fine, what all of us here need to do is document the failed recordings along with data such as transmitter, distance from TX, so that our findings can be presented to humax.

In the mean time the more of us that contact them requesting v26 for the 9200 the better.
Big-les
14-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“Glad to hear your 9200 is fine, what all of us here need to do is document the failed recordings along with data such as transmitter, distance from TX, so that our findings can be presented to humax.

In the mean time the more of us that contact them requesting v26 for the 9200 the better.”

Maybe you don't know about the consecutive recording from standby problem that was introduced in v26, do you really want that in your machine? In my opinion that is the reason v26 hasn't been released for the 9200, if of course v26 was ever intended for the 9200.
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“Maybe you don't know about the consecutive recording from standby problem that was introduced in v26, do you really want that in your machine? In my opinion that is the reason v26 hasn't been released for the 9200, if of course v26 was ever intended for the 9200.”

What is the consecutive recording issue?
I have emailed Humax and they insist the 9200 is on the radar for v26.
Big-les
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“What is the consecutive recording issue?
I have emailed Humax and they insist the 9200 is on the radar for v26.”

If you have consecutive reservations set for the same channel and the 9300/9150 is in STANDBY at the time of the recordings then one or more of the recordings may fail.

In view of the above fact I very much doubt v26 will be made available for the 9200.
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“If you have consecutive reservations set for the same channel and the 9300/9150 is in STANDBY at the time of the recordings then one or more of the recordings may fail.

In view of the above fact I very much doubt v26 will be made available for the 9200.”

That sounds like a really serious bug, which would affect us as we often have such a scenario as you described.

Does v26 record ok if the consecutive recordings are on a different channel on different MUX (i.e. BBC1 and ITV1)?
Does v26 record ok if the consecutive recordings are on a different channel on same MUX (i.e. BBC1 and BBC2)?

With v23 on my 9200 most of the failed recordings are on ITV1 and CH4, in my mind this points to differences in signals (transmitted by the broadcaster), which 9200 is reading to know what to do.
Big-les
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“That sounds like a really serious bug, which would affect us as we often have such a scenario as you described.

Does v26 record ok if the consecutive recordings are on a different channel on different MUX (i.e. BBC1 and ITV1)?
Does v26 record ok if the consecutive recordings are on a different channel on same MUX (i.e. BBC1 and BBC2)?

With v23 on my 9200 most of the failed recordings are on ITV1 and CH4, in my mind this points to differences in signals (transmitted by the broadcaster), which 9200 is reading to know what to do.”

My understanding is that it is only recordings from the same channel that are likely to fail due to this problem.

There is a problem with some missing Series-Link episodes in the week after the clock change, could your failures be due to that? With my 9200 if a programme is flagged in the EPG to record, then it will record without fail.
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“My understanding is that it is only recordings from the same channel that are likely to fail due to this problem.

There is a problem with some missing Series-Link episodes in the week after the clock change, could your failures be due to that? With my 9200 if a programme is flagged in the EPG to record, then it will record without fail.”

After seeing reports in this forum I erased all my recording schedule and re-entered them after the clock change.

I have also done a manual re-tune (on last change date whatever it was) so I do not get any duplicated channels.
Big-les
15-04-2013
You must have some problem because as I said before v23 works for me. Did you do a Default Setting after v23 was installed? Even if you did I'd suggest doing another if you've got any sort of problem.
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“You must have some problem because as I said before v23 works for me. Did you do a Default Setting after v23 was installed? Even if you did I'd suggest doing another if you've got any sort of problem.”

Last time I did a reset to defaults was just after DSO (1st Sep 2011), to clear out all the channels (already on v23 by then). Definitely worth a try when I get a bit of spare time with a bit enough window where nothing is being recorded.
Last edited by MikeWill34 : 15-04-2013 at 20:15
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Just tried to look at the release notes and date for the 9150, 9200 and 9300 on the humax web site and I am getting 404 errors (i.e. they have taken down the web pages)

Looks like they have ceased support for the models boo hiss
Big-les
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“Last time I did a reset to defaults was just after DSO (1st Sep 2011), to clear out all the channels (already on v23 by then). Definitely worth a try when I get a bit of spare time with a bit enough window where nothing is being recorded.”

Does the highlighted text above suggest that you don't clear out old channels before doing a Manual Search? Have you tried my Manual Search instructions?
MikeWill34
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“Does the highlighted text above suggest that you don't clear out old channels before doing a Manual Search? Have you tried my Manual Search instructions?”

I always clear out the channels, as you can't tell what is left behind otherwise.
creddish
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“Just tried to look at the release notes and date for the 9150, 9200 and 9300 on the humax web site and I am getting 404 errors (i.e. they have taken down the web pages)

Looks like they have ceased support for the models boo hiss ”

I still have some working links to info on the .26 update for 9150/9300 on the web pages here and here. Both the above are listed on the web page here.

The links to the .23 updates I have do seem to have been removed.

Release notes for earlier updates on the 9200 are copied in the post here.

Colin
Big-les
15-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“Just tried to look at the release notes and date for the 9150, 9200 and 9300 on the humax web site and I am getting 404 errors (i.e. they have taken down the web pages)

Looks like they have ceased support for the models boo hiss ”

Interestingly http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/ works but http://www.humaxdigital.com/UK/ doesn't anymore. Looks to me like they are revamping their web site.
MikeWill34
16-04-2013
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“Interestingly http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/ works but http://www.humaxdigital.com/UK/ doesn't anymore. Looks to me like they are revamping their web site.”

The links I supplied earlier have a lower case uk so that's not the issue there.

Sensitivity to case is a built in feature of Linux hosting.

If you search for 9200 on the new website you get no hits.
Jamie6767
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by MikeWill34:
“With v23 on my 9200 most of the failed recordings are on ITV1 and CH4”

Totally the opposite to what I see - these channels record perfectly, but all my failures occur on BBC - specifically Andrew Marr and The Daily Politics.
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