Just sharing this for whoever wants to know, I saw in a paper today that
has aced every vote so far... Not sure I can believe that...
Spoiler
has aced every vote so far... Not sure I can believe that...
Who's topped the votes (newspaper report - possible 'spoiler' of sorts)
I can certainly believe that is true - she has the Irish vote, a broad range of support and appeals to older viewers.
No need for a spoiler though - there is already a thread discussing it.
However I never believe the Star - they claimed Jedward were topping the votes and they never did (were always near the bottom 2 but managed to avoid it just for weeks).
No need for a spoiler though - there is already a thread discussing it.
However I never believe the Star - they claimed Jedward were topping the votes and they never did (were always near the bottom 2 but managed to avoid it just for weeks).
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“I can certainly believe that is true - she has the Irish vote, a broad range of support and appeals to older viewers.
No need for a spoiler though - there is already a thread discussing it.
However I never believe the Star - they claimed Jedward were topping the votes and they never did (were always near the bottom 2 but managed to avoid it just for weeks).”
“I can certainly believe that is true - she has the Irish vote, a broad range of support and appeals to older viewers.
No need for a spoiler though - there is already a thread discussing it.
However I never believe the Star - they claimed Jedward were topping the votes and they never did (were always near the bottom 2 but managed to avoid it just for weeks).”
Please provide a source for this.
The Star are usually right about their leaks - they correctly reported that Rachel Adedeji had topped the vote in Week Three, that Eoghan was topping every week, that Jedward actually weren't doing especially well, and various other things. I'm inclined to trust them on this.
Originally Posted by anactoria:
“Please provide a source for this.
The Star are usually right about their leaks - they correctly reported that Rachel Adedeji had topped the vote in Week Three, that Eoghan was topping every week, that Jedward actually weren't doing especially well, and various other things. I'm inclined to trust them on this.”
“Please provide a source for this.
The Star are usually right about their leaks - they correctly reported that Rachel Adedeji had topped the vote in Week Three, that Eoghan was topping every week, that Jedward actually weren't doing especially well, and various other things. I'm inclined to trust them on this.”
No they did claim Jedward and Wagner were doing welll......
The Sun were the ones that climed Jedward and Wagner were doing well.
The Star also got it right about Mary being in the top 2 for the first 3 weeks. (another Irish contestant that did a hell of a lot better in the vote than she did on any online poll)
The Star also got it right about Mary being in the top 2 for the first 3 weeks. (another Irish contestant that did a hell of a lot better in the vote than she did on any online poll)
Originally Posted by RandomPoster:
“No they did claim Jedward and Wagner were doing welll......”
“No they did claim Jedward and Wagner were doing welll......”
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/105910/
Also:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...a-sure-winner/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...na-nears-exit/
The Daily Star really is pretty good about their XF leaks - even if they're not always dead on, they're usually closer than everyone else. If they really did claim that Wagner & Jedward were doing well, I'll revise my opinion, but so far nobody has actually been able to provide links to the articles where they claimed that.
Doesn't surprise me about Janet and for that reason she won't be bottom 2 today, however the Irish vote can't win it as Egohan found out when he came 3rd
It was The Sun who wrote about jedward and Wagner, not the star. check it's all there to see, failing the papers archive, the wayback machine.
It's quite plausible though, the star are usually very reliable with their voting leaks. Doesnt mean things can't change though.
It's quite plausible though, the star are usually very reliable with their voting leaks. Doesnt mean things can't change though.
Originally Posted by Alicey:
“The Sun were the ones that climed Jedward and Wagner were doing well.
The Star also got it right about Mary being in the top 2 for the first 3 weeks. (another Irish contestant that did a hell of a lot better in the vote than she did on any online poll)”
“The Sun were the ones that climed Jedward and Wagner were doing well.
The Star also got it right about Mary being in the top 2 for the first 3 weeks. (another Irish contestant that did a hell of a lot better in the vote than she did on any online poll)”
Well I knew it was a tabloid - its not hard to mix up the Sun and the Star.
Just don't know why the Star would have more of an inside track than the Sun - the Sun is a bigger paper with tonnes more readers. For publicity purposes the Sun would surely be a better bet to leak voting details to - it has a massive readership!
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“It was The Sun who wrote about jedward and Wagner, not the star. check it's all there to see, failing the papers archive, the wayback machine.
It's quite plausible though, the star are usually very reliable with their voting leaks. Doesnt mean things can't change though.”
“It was The Sun who wrote about jedward and Wagner, not the star. check it's all there to see, failing the papers archive, the wayback machine.
It's quite plausible though, the star are usually very reliable with their voting leaks. Doesnt mean things can't change though.”
I still think Janet will win - the best singers (Misha and Kitty) don't have the support and I think Craig and Marcus will split a similar vote. Little Mix is hard to call - they could be very popular or not in the votes.
However it all changed last night with Amelia Lily - she was spectacular in my view. If the public get behind her she could be Janet's biggest threat!
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Well I knew it was a tabloid - its not hard to mix up the Sun and the Star.
Just don't know why the Star would have more of an inside track than the Sun - the Sun is a bigger paper with tonnes more readers. For publicity purposes the Sun would surely be a better bet to leak voting details to - it has a massive readership!”
“Well I knew it was a tabloid - its not hard to mix up the Sun and the Star.
Just don't know why the Star would have more of an inside track than the Sun - the Sun is a bigger paper with tonnes more readers. For publicity purposes the Sun would surely be a better bet to leak voting details to - it has a massive readership!”
Good point but the Star have been right a lot with some detail and the occasions they have been wrong it's been a fraction of a percent error.
Clearly someone at the star knows someone with access to the info. If it's a personal acquaintance then it's quite possible the star are the only ones with access.
With Janet winning, I wouldn't like to say. I would say it's between Janet, little mix, Marcus and maybe Amelia (writing Misha and kitty off due to being in the bottom 3).
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“I still think Janet will win - the best singers (Misha and Kitty) don't have the support and I think Craig and Marcus will split a similar vote. Little Mix is hard to call - they could be very popular or not in the votes.
However it all changed last night with Amelia Lily - she was spectacular in my view. If the public get behind her she could be Janet's biggest threat!”
“I still think Janet will win - the best singers (Misha and Kitty) don't have the support and I think Craig and Marcus will split a similar vote. Little Mix is hard to call - they could be very popular or not in the votes.
However it all changed last night with Amelia Lily - she was spectacular in my view. If the public get behind her she could be Janet's biggest threat!”
I can't imagine Janet winning, especially after her last few performances. She's too divisive to pick up floating voters (which the winner always needs to do), and she must have lost the sympathy vote by now. It's much easier for divisive acts to top the vote earlier in the contest when the vote is split, but as other acts are eliminated, her percentage will probably drop sharply.
Besides, as bland as the winners of TXF often are, they're usually pretty good at hitting notes (Steve being an unfortunate exception). I would say that Janet's the one contestant this year who can't do that with any sort of regularity.
Originally Posted by anactoria:
“http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/105910/
Also:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...a-sure-winner/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...na-nears-exit/
The Daily Star really is pretty good about their XF leaks - even if they're not always dead on, they're usually closer than everyone else. If they really did claim that Wagner & Jedward were doing well, I'll revise my opinion, but so far nobody has actually been able to provide links to the articles where they claimed that.”
“http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/105910/
Also:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...a-sure-winner/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...na-nears-exit/
The Daily Star really is pretty good about their XF leaks - even if they're not always dead on, they're usually closer than everyone else. If they really did claim that Wagner & Jedward were doing well, I'll revise my opinion, but so far nobody has actually been able to provide links to the articles where they claimed that.”
The Daily Star DID originally claim that Jedward had topped the votes in Week 3 but it was the Irish Daily Star.
Could be the quickest comeback\exit ever... I dont think Amelia is anything special, would laugh my socks off if she is in bottom 2 tonight 
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Originally Posted by anactoria:
“Please provide a source for this.
The Star are usually right about their leaks - they correctly reported that Rachel Adedeji had topped the vote in Week Three, that Eoghan was topping every week, that Jedward actually weren't doing especially well, and various other things. I'm inclined to trust them on this.”
“Please provide a source for this.
The Star are usually right about their leaks - they correctly reported that Rachel Adedeji had topped the vote in Week Three, that Eoghan was topping every week, that Jedward actually weren't doing especially well, and various other things. I'm inclined to trust them on this.”
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Originally Posted by unclekevo:
“The Daily Star DID originally claim that Jedward had topped the votes in Week 3 but it was the Irish Daily Star.”
“The Daily Star DID originally claim that Jedward had topped the votes in Week 3 but it was the Irish Daily Star.”
I'm not familiar with the differences between the two - does the Irish version print a lot of the same stuff, or are the two papers radically different in content? Either way, I can't find the article online.
Originally Posted by MartynMac123:
“oh look, more people are saying they said wagner and jedward were doing good”
“oh look, more people are saying they said wagner and jedward were doing good
”
Yes, and more people haven't provided sources.
Originally Posted by anactoria:
“I'm not familiar with the differences between the two - does the Irish version print a lot of the same stuff, or are the two papers radically different in content? Either way, I can't find the article online.
Yes, and more people haven't provided sources.”
“I'm not familiar with the differences between the two - does the Irish version print a lot of the same stuff, or are the two papers radically different in content? Either way, I can't find the article online.
Yes, and more people haven't provided sources.
”
I believe they are linked "corporately" with a bit of content exchange but that's it.
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“I believe they are linked "corporately" with a bit of content exchange but that's it.”
“I believe they are linked "corporately" with a bit of content exchange but that's it.”
In that case, I'm guessing they also have radically different sources of info, so an incorrect voting leak in one should have no bearing on the reputation of the other.
But either way, I guess we'll find out about this one at the end of the series when the weekly results are revealed.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Well I knew it was a tabloid - its not hard to mix up the Sun and the Star.
Just don't know why the Star would have more of an inside track than the Sun - the Sun is a bigger paper with tonnes more readers. For publicity purposes the Sun would surely be a better bet to leak voting details to - it has a massive readership!”
“Well I knew it was a tabloid - its not hard to mix up the Sun and the Star.
Just don't know why the Star would have more of an inside track than the Sun - the Sun is a bigger paper with tonnes more readers. For publicity purposes the Sun would surely be a better bet to leak voting details to - it has a massive readership!”
I don't think the Star leaks would be planned.
The Sun ones however do make sense, leak information that the "novelty" acts are winning to the biggest paper, fans of all the other acts feel compelled to save their act, the novelty act falls further down the voting and more money is made from people voting to stop novelty act winning. The Sun probably know it's not true when they print it, its just to drum up even more votes.
Yeah, they have a few articles in common but Irish Daily Star covers more Southern Irish news, large emphasis on Irish X Factor contestants and The Irish Apprentice in terms of entertainment news.
Either way, the Star do have a track record of gettng it dead on (and they weren't exactly obvious guesses ether), so if I'm inclined to believe any voting leaks it is this one. Janet topping every week seems to be consistent with them sticking her on early every week and trying to undermine her like they did with Mary Byrne.
The Sun are metaphorically in bed with the X Factor team and print whatever the X Factor spin department wants them to print- they will not be publishing any accurate voting leaks.
The Sun are metaphorically in bed with the X Factor team and print whatever the X Factor spin department wants them to print- they will not be publishing any accurate voting leaks.
If the Star's info is correct, it begs the question as to why Barlow is attacking the poll topper and describing her as "boring" and a one trick pony.
Originally Posted by gagafan2010:
“Just sharing this for whoever wants to know, I saw in a paper today that
has aced every vote so far... Not sure I can believe that...”
“Just sharing this for whoever wants to know, I saw in a paper today that
Spoiler
has aced every vote so far... Not sure I can believe that...”
I cant believe it either
I reckon Janet is getting a lot of votes from Northern Ireland - the local UTV are certainly cheering her on, which is understandable.
I'm Irish, and wouldn't vote for a candidate just because they came from my country, and I don't think Janet has a tremendous fan base throughout the entire island of Ireland.
I think the only reason she survived last week was because of the 'dedicated Ulster (Northern Ireland) vote' which is mobilised every week regardless of how she performs.
I'm Irish, and wouldn't vote for a candidate just because they came from my country, and I don't think Janet has a tremendous fan base throughout the entire island of Ireland.
I think the only reason she survived last week was because of the 'dedicated Ulster (Northern Ireland) vote' which is mobilised every week regardless of how she performs.
Originally Posted by denda:
“I reckon Janet is getting a lot of votes from Northern Ireland - the local UTV are certainly cheering her on, which is understandable.
I'm Irish, and wouldn't vote for a candidate just because they came from my country, and I don't think Janet has a tremendous fan base throughout the entire island of Ireland.
I think the only reason she survived last week was because of the 'dedicated Ulster (Northern Ireland) vote' which is mobilised every week regardless of how she performs.”
“I reckon Janet is getting a lot of votes from Northern Ireland - the local UTV are certainly cheering her on, which is understandable.
I'm Irish, and wouldn't vote for a candidate just because they came from my country, and I don't think Janet has a tremendous fan base throughout the entire island of Ireland.
I think the only reason she survived last week was because of the 'dedicated Ulster (Northern Ireland) vote' which is mobilised every week regardless of how she performs.”
I agree with that....I'm Irish too and as much as I would like to see an Irish winner on the show,I wouldn't vote for somebody religiously just because they're the same nationality as me.I don't think she has much of a fan base in the republic anyway,she's from up the north and that's where the majority of the support is coming from I think.Everyone I've been speaking to has said they like Little Mix/Amelia/Misha...no one going too crazy for Janet!!
