I personally do not think the poor ratings are due to the new judges. The press say Simon wants to bring Cheryl back. Simon; it is not the judges that are your main problem.
I think most people just do not like the quite obvious pretence this year.
The pretend arguments, the fake Kelly illness, Louis and his awful choices, fixed that someone was going to come back.. and so on.
Everything is just so more obviously fake than all other years. That Simon is what is the problem.

yeah and the press say Frankie got thrown out which is not what he said on his VT when he told the others he wanted to leave & was going & said the same on twit and Gary said much the same thing when Dermy boned him on it. So don't believe a word of anything from either the press or x factor cos its all hogwash as far as i can see.

Lack of talent is the biggest issue i think & the fact these shows have reached saturation point.

Exactly the judges need to take a back seat and make it more about singing and talent and even look for song writers and musicians. the petty judges arguing is so boring and meaningless and fake as you say.

I think you have just described The Voice, at least I hope so.
The sooner XFactor goes now the better.

I completely agree. The standard of the show in my opinion isn't as bad as people are making out. I can't bear the new judges though and they are putting me off the show a bit. Especially Gary and Kelly, they both just seem to be out to completely sabotage everyone else acts.

According to Gary, every act in the competition is predictable bar his own. I actually havent heard him pass a comment that I have agreed with so far.

Yeah I had heard this will be more about the talent and not the judges, way it should be, I enjoyed the sky ones version of it and liked fame academy for its take on it but not that Richard Parkes guy who spoilt FA for me.