maybe,or maybe Aaron is just not her cup of tea.For instance i didn't like Anton but it wasn't because of my ex,is was i just didn't like him.

Thank you for the Thanksgiving wishes, I'm expecting a great day of food, family and football....the American kind.

Just getting up now to start breakfast and packing for a little trip to Palestine, Texas and a day at the in-laws.

I have so much to be thankful for today and included on that list is all the friends I have made on the JJJAT. Wishing you all a very good day today too.

Going to have some cuddles today and Chase is going to meet some more of his family.
Chase is ready for Thanksgiving!

Thanks for that Ali, never thought of doing it that way maggi x

some interesting posts this morning, i believe imo that josie still thinks about him, and im sure he thinks about her to, think they always will, been watching some lf today, still on fire exit day

Hey all i am back.
Glad to see others about.
Before i forget.

...HAPPY THANKSGIVING to Barbara, Ferfer and all American friends.
Hope you have a lovely day.
Much love from us Brits. xx

Sue you still here?
Mags you still here?
Landm you still here?

Hello
I've got a topic and would love to hear others opinions on it as I've been wondering about it ever since it happened.

On Nasty Noms day when Josie threw the bucket over JJ and Sam and Steve follows suit putting JJ up for eviction. John gave Josie a bit of grief over it. How do all think John would of reacted to JJ if it had been JJ who had thrown the bucket over Josie and paved the way for Sam and Steve to do the same , therefore putting Josie up for eviction.

MMmm that is a question.
I think it would be one of two ways.
1 he would have been furious but not said anything to JJ for fear of losing his friendship, and lets face it John seemed to revere JJ for some reason.
2 he would have really let JJ have it.
I think it would have been the first.

Hi Shem i'm still here, did you sleep any better? maggi x

im still here, always am

He would have given it to him too.
However, JJ would never have done/thought of that knowing the effect it will have on his relationship with John.

Reflecting on that question i dont think it was even a possibility
Of that happening.
JJ wouldn't have the nerve
Steve wouldn't have the nerve.
Sam would have the nerve but knew he would upset John
and i think Sam really loved John.

Thanks for answering

So in response to you thinking it would be no 1 why do you think John would not of said anything to JJ because he might lose a friendship but it was Ok to give Josie grief over it and bang on about for hours which he did and let Josie the girl he loved feel like crap about it

Hi Mags and Sue and Divine.
Mags i woke up as normal 4am ,
got up watched a bit of live feed and went back to bed at 6am.
Amazingly i woke up at 11-15 am.
My body must have needed it mustn't it.

have used my tesco vouchers today, i had £20 worth that i changed which made £40, and ive done the babies pressies, got them a mobile phone each a key ring with keys, a pull along phone and a shape sorted each, £63 it was and ive paid £23 so pleased got all 5 girls a xmas bag and will fill them with all sorts, got the baies my first curl and tooth sets, swimming bags with there names on, there names inmdf on stands, for abi got lots of justin beiber stuff, hannah is in th make up so im sorted nearly havnt git much but do like to share with them all.
dont do a lot of shopping at tesco but i save points i even take my cans there now. ive also got a brill shopping site to buy food products dead cheap, this week , ive got £40 worth coming and its cost me £13 + £5 for delivery,

But JJ gave Josie the nod to pour the bucket over him, which she did so wasn't JJ thinking about the effect that might have on Johns relationship with Josie.

I'd say John would have been furious, not particularily with JJ more so with Sam for following suit, think he would have been a bit more wary of Steve and kept his cool wtih him a bit more maggi x

Did i say it was ok for John to give Josie grief about it?
You asked a hypothetical question and i answered it.

Many of John's fans saw similarities and were attracted to certain characteristics Aaron displayed so saying Josie may have also seen similarities isn't that much of a stretch to be honest. As far as projecting her anger towards John onto Aaron goes I think it's more a case of there were always aspects to John's character Josie didn't like or approve of both in and presumably also out of the house, she could only be around him for short periods of time when he started to let rip and bitch about others for example and she more than once told him to drop the attitude when he was 'getting angry now' as well as pulling him up sometimes when he showed little or no compassion for others 'where's your heart gone' 'you forgot you were a gentlmen' to name just two.

She doesn't like rude and arrogant people and she's got no time for gameplayers. I think it's more those characteristics with regards to Aaron that she disliked because that's how she viewed him from the H/L edit she watched. With John she saw the negative side to his character, his faults if you like but it was always balanced and over shadowed while they were together by the other loving, supportive and caring side to his nature. Post split all she's seen from John is his twitter edit, that guy who she's got no time for, the angry, insulting, bitchy guy who can be carelessly cruel and who broke her trust in him as being a nice and loyal guy.


Is she confused? I think she was in the begining like a lot of fans seemed to be by John's actions and words because the twitter persona he was presenting to everyone didn't and still in some ways doesn't gel or add up with the person they saw and got to know something about in the house. She's said she doesn't recognise who he is anymore since he went back to OZ and that's also something many other people have expressed too so she may still be confused about that but I don't think she's confused about how she feels about him any more, too much time's passed and I get the impression she's done most if not all the soul searching she's going to do on that score.


Probably some but probably more so because they do share some characteristics rather than because she's viewing all men in reference to John and ticking off some kind of imaginery mental list with regards to good or bad traits that John had, which I personally don't believe, I think it's the fans that do that more so than Josie ie translate every word, action, comment in terms of what does this mean for or about John or how Josie feels now with regards to John. Instead of just viewing it as her wanting what she always seemingly wanted in a guy, someone who would love and accept her for who she was, someone she could lean on and count on for support when and if she needed to and most of all someone she could share her life fully with. Maybe that person will turn out to be Luke maybe Luke's just good for her at the present time, if he's making her feel happy for right now that's all anyone can ask really.


I think it's natural that it only being a few months since they split and returning to the BB set on a regular basis memories of her time with John would be present in her mind and surface every now and then but as far as being conflicted goes and still loving/hating John, not so sure about that one, I think she did what he left her with no option but to do when he walked away in that mentally and emotionally she let him go and has since managed for the most part to move on with her life and look forwards and to her future rather than backwards to a past that can't be changed now even supposing she wanted to.


Where do most people place negative memories of an ex? I don't think Josie's any different to anyone else in that respect is she?

I will say once again Thank you for answering my question but I just wanted you to elaborate a bit more on your first answer to help me understand a bit more why you thought that.

I have seen your second response and I also thank you for that.

As the thread seems to be moving a bit slow and you yourself was looking for a topis to discuss I thought that I may as well post a topic that would get people talking and all thoughts would be discussed.

I get the feeling thatyou feel a slight was intended and that is simply not the case.
Once again thank you for your thoughts.

Shem maybe that's the way to do it, stay up the couple of hours and then try to go back to bed, might kick the body clock into action maggi x

No i wasn't in the slightest feeling that.
I can only elaborate on my opinion in that John seemed to
think the sun shone out of JJ's proverbial.
I KNOW he loved Josie but i think he gave leeway to his mates .
Why i dont know, perhaps it is an Aussie thing.
Look how he was with Sam.
None of us could understand how he could let Sam get away with the way he treated Josie.
He tried to make every excuse for him.
No matter if Josie did not want him to say anything to Sam
he should have called him out at the first insult.
I think that showed John's immaturity.
He IMO is a poor judge of character at times.
He prides himself of reading people but
he couldn't see what outsiders (Us) could see as plain as the nose on your face.

By the way I love John James, i support John James and i spent a fortune on trying to keep him in the house until the end , but that doesn't mean i cant say what i think his weaknesses are.

Was it before/after she carried the bucket and stood behind him, what would you have expected him to do? What has his nodding effect got to do with John's & Josie's relationship. She performed the act.

If he had shook his head, you would have been saying another thing. Or is JJ to be blamed for nodding his head?

I'm going to have to give that a try Mags,
but i cant be getting up at 11-15 every day.
what would the neighbours think.
#teamishouldgiveadamn.

For BBLovers eyes only.
I woke up at 11-15 and then believe it or not.
I HAD A SHOWER.
so boo sucks.