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Old 14-11-2011, 22:08
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She's arrogant, condescending, and all flash without substance. It seems that she suffers from some kind of inferiority complex in the face of Harry M and Hayley.

She's now the most annoying candidate in there (well, as long as Gbemi keeps her mouth shut).
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Old 14-11-2011, 22:13
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I thought Haya made the right call. Her team would have had to have sold over 30% more pillows just to equal the revenue made from the pie maker (let alone exceed it), and I'm not convinced that was faesible.

In all honesty, it was one of those weeks where no one was appallingly bad, the winning team were just that bit better.
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Old 15-11-2011, 00:12
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Regardless of whether Haya might the right choice or not, and I've posted my opinion of that on the main episode thread, she was PM and it was her decision. She can't be expected to automatically defer to Harry M.
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Old 15-11-2011, 00:20
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I think she is in the soon to be fired pile along with the black girl from Peckham
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Old 15-11-2011, 08:21
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I don't find her arrogant. She was very passionate about a product she personally saw, Harry was as passionate about one he saw. Why should she go with his product and not hers?
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Old 15-11-2011, 08:25
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I don't see her as any more arrogant than many of the others, to be honest. Her mistake as far as I was concerned was not to set a maximum price for the other product and make sure that the sub-team stuck to it.
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Old 15-11-2011, 08:27
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Regardless of whether Haya might the right choice or not, and I've posted my opinion of that on the main episode thread, she was PM and it was her decision. She can't be expected to automatically defer to Harry M.
No. but as PM, she can be expected to listen carefully to the reports made by, and opinions of, her team members, especially those sent to review products she didn't see, and to weigh up the pros and cons of the products, irrespective of her feelings towards other team members, and come to an informed and reasoned decision.

I didn't see much of that in her decision making process.
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Old 15-11-2011, 15:05
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No. but as PM, she can be expected to listen carefully to the reports made by, and opinions of, her team members, especially those sent to review products she didn't see, and to weigh up the pros and cons of the products, irrespective of her feelings towards other team members, and come to an informed and reasoned decision.

I didn't see much of that in her decision making process.
what were you watching? she didnt say no because it was harry m that wanted the pillow,she had to decide between the 2 and went with pie maker which she had seen first hand

hasnt come accross as arrogant at all imo
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Old 15-11-2011, 18:52
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Don't know about arrogant but she does seem to have had a humour bypass operation.
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Old 15-11-2011, 19:17
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I think she is in the soon to be fired pile along with the black girl from Peckham
could you not be bothered to look up her name
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Old 15-11-2011, 19:25
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Must admit - I thought they deserved to lose for voting her in as PM with the massive experience of her grandmother..... ignoring Harry's knowledge of a bigger group of over 50s just because they didn't like him....
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Old 15-11-2011, 23:50
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No. but as PM, she can be expected to listen carefully to the reports made by, and opinions of, her team members, especially those sent to review products she didn't see, and to weigh up the pros and cons of the products, irrespective of her feelings towards other team members, and come to an informed and reasoned decision.

I didn't see much of that in her decision making process.
I didn't see any evidence that her feelings towards other team members played a part in her decision. I think the higher price she originally charged for the piemaker suggests that she really did feel it was a fantastic product that would fly off the shelves. She possibly became too fixed on one product she liked and failed to give fair consideration to the cushion, but I think that was just because she hadn't seen it, not because Harry M suggested it.
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Old 16-11-2011, 02:14
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I don't find her arrogant. She was very passionate about a product she personally saw, Harry was as passionate about one he saw. Why should she go with his product and not hers?
The problem was she went with BOTH the products she saw. If the other team hadn't won the trolley, Hayley and Harry M had essentially wasted a whole day!
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Old 16-11-2011, 02:15
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could you not be bothered to look up her name
Glad I wasn't the only one who found that distasteful.
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Old 16-11-2011, 02:17
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Must admit - I thought they deserved to lose for voting her in as PM with the massive experience of her grandmother..... ignoring Harry's knowledge of a bigger group of over 50s just because they didn't like him....
Exactly! Not sure why Hayley went for Haya, maybe bonding on previous tasks but Lewis would have chosen a red poker up the bottom over Harry M as PM.
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Old 16-11-2011, 02:20
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My ultimate bugbear with Haya is that she puts odd pauses. in her sentences. I'm. not. sure. why. She sounds. like. a robot! It really started to annoy me last ep and I really warmed to her after she rescued Gbemi's pitch.
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Old 16-11-2011, 17:13
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I thought Haya made the right call. Her team would have had to have sold over 30% more pillows just to equal the revenue made from the pie maker (let alone exceed it), and I'm not convinced that was faesible.

In all honesty, it was one of those weeks where no one was appallingly bad, the winning team were just that bit better.
I think they would have had to sell 35 pillows to make more than the pie maker? I'm not sure how long their day there was but I think they could have easily sold more than that especially if Harry was using his enthuasiam to draw attention, doing demonstrations and getting passers by to try it out. It should have been flying off the shelf no problem, I know people who would buy that product especially at £10 and as an impulse buy. The pie-maker looked impressive but actually wasnt such a great buy, I enjoy cooking but to me it the hard part is fiddling about with the pasty and making the filling which the customer still had to do, they did cook them at just the right temperature but most keen cookers can do a decent job with an oven. Haya picked the wrong product...The pillow and vacuum were suitable for almost every passer by - the pie maker and bird camera were not, they require more of 'interest' in those areas. Well that's how I would have viewed it anyway.
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Old 16-11-2011, 17:34
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From what they showed, a lot of time must have been taken up with demonstrating the pie maker and giving away pie!

It's not the sort of thing I'd buy on a whim unless it was very cheap, whereas I could have imagined people buying more than one cushion if they liked it.

The range of products seemed a bit skewed - both teams decided on one expensive and one cheaper product, so one of them was bound to end up with the bird box, surely that was a harder sell at a non specialist exhibition than a trolley?
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Old 16-11-2011, 18:04
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she was a complete idiot. anyone could have used that pillow, toddler onwards. it'd help my gran loads. but she needed to go, lewis was useless, but she is not a good businesswoman.
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Old 17-11-2011, 00:16
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I think they would have had to sell 35 pillows to make more than the pie maker? I'm not sure how long their day there was but I think they could have easily sold more than that especially if Harry was using his enthuasiam to draw attention, doing demonstrations and getting passers by to try it out. It should have been flying off the shelf no problem, I know people who would buy that product especially at £10 and as an impulse buy. The pie-maker looked impressive but actually wasnt such a great buy, I enjoy cooking but to me it the hard part is fiddling about with the pasty and making the filling which the customer still had to do, they did cook them at just the right temperature but most keen cookers can do a decent job with an oven. Haya picked the wrong product...The pillow and vacuum were suitable for almost every passer by - the pie maker and bird camera were not, they require more of 'interest' in those areas. Well that's how I would have viewed it anyway.
The piemaker did sell quite well once they'd dropped the price though.
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Old 17-11-2011, 01:38
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I think they would have had to sell 35 pillows to make more than the pie maker? I'm not sure how long their day there was but I think they could have easily sold more than that especially if Harry was using his enthuasiam to draw attention, doing demonstrations and getting passers by to try it out. It should have been flying off the shelf no problem, I know people who would buy that product especially at £10 and as an impulse buy. The pie-maker looked impressive but actually wasnt such a great buy, I enjoy cooking but to me it the hard part is fiddling about with the pasty and making the filling which the customer still had to do, they did cook them at just the right temperature but most keen cookers can do a decent job with an oven. Haya picked the wrong product...The pillow and vacuum were suitable for almost every passer by - the pie maker and bird camera were not, they require more of 'interest' in those areas. Well that's how I would have viewed it anyway.
I completely agree with you. Although the price of the pillow was low, it would have been an easy sale for the reason that the price was low. Given that Harry M was able to convince another trader to take 4 of the bird cameras, I think he could have used that same technique to convince another trader to buy wholesale volumes of the pillow as well.
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Old 27-11-2011, 19:57
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she is but she's good .... same with Zara .... good + confident and all that but edging on arrogant at times.
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Old 29-11-2011, 12:29
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She's arrogant, condescending, and all flash without substance. It seems that she suffers from some kind of inferiority complex in the face of Harry M and Hayley.

She's now the most annoying candidate in there (well, as long as Gbemi keeps her mouth shut).
Wonder what the common factor between these two is?
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Old 29-11-2011, 12:58
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thoguht haya had quite a good task yesterday bar the scheduling

she seems very friendly to me,not arrogant
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Old 29-11-2011, 13:35
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Can't stand her. Loves the sound of her booming, irritating voice.
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