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Old 18-11-2011, 01:53
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So, I am in the market for a new mp3 player as my 120gb iPod is almost full and my music collection is ever expanding. I was online today doing some research as I don't want another iPod but it seems that there are no alternatives when is comes to high capacity players as the largest I found was the 160gb iPod classic.

I can't believe that no other company has developed a competitor for Apple in this area as there are a lot of people out there who don't like iPods unless I have missed one. There is an opportunity for someone like Creative Media to develop a good competitor but no one will take the chance. Why?
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Old 18-11-2011, 10:25
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I can think of a couple of factors.

High capacity needs either an 'old fashioned' spinning hard drive or lots of solid state.
HD's are big and heavy and fragile. Solid state, in large sizes, is very very expensive. For lightness, speed and usability all the companies have gone for solid state but the capacities are relatively small due to cost limits.

And secondly, I'm not sure many people bother to take ALL of their music with them any more. They make playlists of favorite songs or albums or 'mood music'. The largest capacity solid state players, like the 64Gb iPod touch, can hold, what, 15,000+ songs? I suspect they think that's probably enough. Even if you wanted to add some audio books and longer audio clips like comedy shows there's still enough room for many thousands of them. And if you're sitting at a desk all day at work you might have the option to stream it all from the likes of spotify.
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Old 18-11-2011, 11:02
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I don't what the market is for 120GB+ players. As mentioned it would a long time to play that back.

Other option with be to get a player with memory card slot. My sandisk only has 4GB on board but has a microSD card slot so I can take it to 64GB card that I can easily swap if I needed to.
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Old 18-11-2011, 16:25
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I can think of a couple of factors.

High capacity needs either an 'old fashioned' spinning hard drive or lots of solid state.
HD's are big and heavy and fragile. Solid state, in large sizes, is very very expensive. For lightness, speed and usability all the companies have gone for solid state but the capacities are relatively small due to cost limits.

And secondly, I'm not sure many people bother to take ALL of their music with them any more. They make playlists of favorite songs or albums or 'mood music'. The largest capacity solid state players, like the 64Gb iPod touch, can hold, what, 15,000+ songs? I suspect they think that's probably enough. Even if you wanted to add some audio books and longer audio clips like comedy shows there's still enough room for many thousands of them. And if you're sitting at a desk all day at work you might have the option to stream it all from the likes of spotify.
Mmmm I didn't consider that about the size and cost of hard drives (doh for me) but it makes sense.

I think the reason I like to have all my music with me is that I drive a lot and I like to have different music for the car and having one device beats having dozens of CDs lying about the place.
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Old 18-11-2011, 16:43
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A quick back of an envelope calculation, assuming 128kb/s mp3s, suggests that 120GB is about 80 days worth of music, that's playing 24 hours a day!

Surely that should be enough for any journey, even a round the world trip So on the basis you are likely to be back home before you run out of music you could just load a small section of your tunes to your player every couple of weeks and I doubt you'll ever be caught short as it were
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Old 18-11-2011, 17:42
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People with large music collections are the exception rather than the norm. Most ordinary people I know might own 100 CDs.

My own collection is much larger, and I know 1 or 2 people like this, but the iPod Classic is produced with those people in mind. The vast majority of people could carry all their songs round in under 20GB!
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Old 18-11-2011, 19:45
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I think you'll find the cowan x7 has a 160gb hard drive, I've a 120 gb cowan and find it great, also a fantastic battery life, using the bluetooth function it lasts for several weeks using around an hour a day.
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Old 18-11-2011, 20:19
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A quick back of an envelope calculation, assuming 128kb/s mp3s, suggests that 120GB is about 80 days worth of music, that's playing 24 hours a day!

Surely that should be enough for any journey, even a round the world trip So on the basis you are likely to be back home before you run out of music you could just load a small section of your tunes to your player every couple of weeks and I doubt you'll ever be caught short as it were
Yep, I have an iPod nano 16Gb in the car. It's got 3000 songs on it (12Gb worth) which is good for 8 days continuous play. Even if I was in the car for 8 hours a day I still won't hear the same song twice for the best part of a month. That's plenty. And playlists allow you to group them without any loss of space.
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Old 18-11-2011, 20:27
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If you collect music there is never too much disk space.

I'm quite surprised that Sandisk does not yet offer an mp3 player complete with a 64GB or 128GB SDXC card.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:49
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I just love music so much that it is hard to decide what to take with me and what to leave behind.
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Old 21-11-2011, 12:11
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I am in your shoes. 160Gb is just not enough. There is the Archos 48, kind of intermediate between a mini-tablet and a giant MP3 player, with 500Gb

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Archos-48-In...1877405&sr=1-1
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Old 21-11-2011, 12:27
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120GB is about 80 days worth of music,

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Surely that should be enough for any journey, even a round the world trip
I've nothing constructive to add, but that made me chuckle
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Old 21-11-2011, 13:08
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That's an incredible price for a Android 'note type' tablet with a massive hard drive.

End of range pricing considering it was originally over £250.
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