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Old 20-11-2011, 12:35
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That's her take on the 'smart casual' look. The sharply tailored jacket says "I want to be seen as a smart cookie with credentials", the kinky boots and corset 'thing' say "me love you long time". Harry Styles says "I have half a Twix, a bag of Haribo and about three quid in change". Her brain tells her "take it girl cause Konnie Huq will be back to take your job on next years X Factor".
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Old 20-11-2011, 12:47
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I'd say people sitting in judgement of what consenting adults get up to is a poorer reflection on society myself.

You can fulminate about society's supposed decadence till you're blue in the face, and use as many capitals as you please - it won't change the facts. He isn't a child. He's over the age of consent and can kiss, date, and have sex with anyone else over the age of 16, as he pleases.

And I dunno where you've conjured this fantasy that she kissed him last year from. The rumours about them only started last month.
It's not vile, disgusting or immoral no.

If true, it is however really, really, really sad.

Like I said previously, imagine going out with your 30 something friends with a 17 year old in toe.


Your friends talking about adult stuff like the mortgage, work, the kids or whatever, your 17 year old BF/GF talking about finally being able to take driving lessons.


It's not sick or anything like that, I'm not quite that judgmental or OTT, but it certainly is a bit sad.


Edit: I don't buy into half your age + 7 years or any of that crap. But more, if they are prone to be excited about things or think things are cool that you are prone to consider to be trivial or take for granted, then they are probably way to young for you.

With a 17 year old and a 32 year old this is most likely going to be the case; outside of one being beyond their age or the other being incredibly immature.
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Old 20-11-2011, 13:01
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Your friends talking about adult stuff like the mortgage, work, the kids or whatever, your 17 year old BF/GF talking about finally being able to take driving lessons.

It's not sick or anything like that, I'm not quite that judgmental or OTT, but it certainly is a bit sad.
That's assuming that that's what they sit around talking about. Caroline seems pretty young in spirit - a lot of people seemed surprised to hear she wasn't in her early to mid twenties.

It's not quite as judgemental as calling it sick, but still pretty judgemental all the same. Sorry if that's judgemental!
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Old 20-11-2011, 13:26
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Eh... I would.
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Old 20-11-2011, 13:37
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That's assuming that that's what they sit around talking about. Caroline seems pretty young in spirit - a lot of people seemed surprised to hear she wasn't in her early to mid twenties.

It's not quite as judgemental as calling it sick, but still pretty judgemental all the same. Sorry if that's judgemental!

Sorry if this gets long winded and your statement is fair enough, and I know I'm being somewhat judgmental but I don't think its an over the top or unreasonable opinion to hold. I'm not implying that she is a pervert for instance, just that to me it comes across as inappropriate and a bit sad.


What I was getting at with my analogy is that I cannot see for the life of me what a 17 year old and a 32 year old would have in common.

You can interchange the actual conversation points with anything you like; the essence of my statement was that the things that matter to your average 32 year old will be incomparable to the things that matter to your average 17 year old.


But I can only speak from putting myself into her shoes which of course is flawed, I know that just because I cannot find much if anything in common with 17 year olds that nobody else in my age range can.


I don't think being young spirited has anything to do with it, I have lots of younger family members and I can hold conversations with them and get on with them well. I can also lower myself to their level. It can be fun to be young spirited at times.


But the conversation always has a level of triviality to it and their interests don't match mine, I couldn't "hang out" with them as such, I'd be out of place. Which tells me that someone in that age range would not be a relationship prospect.


Again I know I am using my own life as gauge which is flawed.


On the sexual side of things, I'll openly admit there is a block with 90% of teenagers, that make me find the prospect of any sexual relationship to be icky; and that's especially true of all the lads in 1Direction.

That block is the fact that most 17 year old look like kids and 1D are not in the minority that look like adults.

You could pick up any of those lads, stick them in a school uniform and plop them in a class of year 9's and they wouldn't look out of place.


As a male, if I draw a comparative in Janet, she too could be dressed in a school uniform and plopped in a mid high school class and not look out of place.

For me, that destroys any sexual draw and even the thought of it is icky to me.

If she looked 21 however, I might find a sexual draw more fathomable but then knowing her age would tell me that its somewhat inappropriate.


It may be judgmental, but like I said, its not unwarranted or an unreasonable opinion and I think most negative opinions expressed here are based on perfectly reasonable feelings.
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Old 20-11-2011, 13:39
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It would be weird if true but bear in mind it's likely a load of bollocks.
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Old 20-11-2011, 13:40
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Even Frankie would probably say 'no' now she's been Styl-ized.
Probably not the best looker but she has a nice bubbly personality

I doubt she was going out with him but it is good publicity
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:41
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I'm actually surprised that she's so popular with men, because I don't find her attractive at all, but obviously I'm just not seeing it - I think it's nice when people you don't find attractive are perceived to be so by others, though, because it shows that most people are found attractive, if not by everyone.
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:46
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ooooooo this got me thinking all sorts
Ooh do spill the beans then, I want to know!
I've just been told by someone who has seen it with their own eyes that she's been seen getting up close and personal with someone else on several occasions and they jump apart the second they realise they've been spotted.

The Harry thing is all being played for a bit of a laugh and it's deflecting attention from what's really happening with another younger (but much closer in age) man.
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:48
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She looks in her mid 20s

Why is it so odd that she is dating such a young guy? We wouldn't even flinch if it was the other way round.
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:51
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I've just been told by someone who has seen it with their own eyes that she's been seen getting up close and personal with someone else on several occasions and they jump apart the second they realise they've been spotted.

The Harry thing is all being played for a bit of a laugh and it's deflecting attention from what's really happening with another younger (but much closer in age) man.
Sounds like the most obvious one then, no big shock there!
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:53
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If true, it is however really, really, really sad.
You know what I find objectionable? Calling something or some people "really, really, really sad". If you want to make logical and reasonable criticisms then go ahead and attempt to do so, not talk about how "sad" people are or you find them.

Calling someone sad is a lazy insult and just the word "sad" is intended to make a person feel a lot less positive about themselves. At least if you call someone an idiot or reckless they can highly disagree, but calling someone sad is a coward's insult imo, it's like something biting without technically calling them a bad name. If you're sad keep it to yourself or people you can trust, maybe try and figure out the reasons for it.

She looks in her mid 20s

Why is it so odd that she is dating such a young guy? We wouldn't even flinch if it was the other way round.
Of course she does, she could pass for 21 without a second glance, I don't know what that person is on about. Though I have never seen her without make-up.
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Old 20-11-2011, 14:59
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This could go on forever, so I'll make this my last comment. Judgemental opinions are always unreasonable and unfair, because they're based on unfair, unnecessary comparisons. Being judgemental is about weighing others up when you have no need to, usually in order to make yourself feel better.

These comparisons are flawed, because as you realise, these people are not you, and their attraction to one another doesn't mean they're thinking of each other in school uniforms and so on, as you are.

I've been in an age disparate relationship myself as the younger person, and I've had to deal with the same kind of sermonising busybodies in this thread and others who think they understand what's going on.

I just don't see why people feel the need to try and attack others in this way. It doesn't matter if you can't understand the attraction. All that matters is that they do, and they aren't hurting anyone else.

It doesn't get more playground than that, ironically enough - the sneering at other people's relationships when they don't bother you is a sign of immaturity in itself.
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Old 20-11-2011, 15:23
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She looks lovely and v sexy.
People today are so picky.

A good looking girl, with good legs, nice hair and hopfully a nice personality too

Wish i bloody looked like her
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Old 20-11-2011, 15:33
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She says she is 32/33 but she looks more like 40 ish and is very hard faced. Trying to act and dress like a teenager just makes her look ridiculous, she should act her age and remember she is old enough to be most of the contestants mother.
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Old 20-11-2011, 15:43
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i actually think she should be sacked and this should not be allowed, he is a boy, he cant even legaly drink, yet a 32 yr old woman is dating him....wrong!!!!
No doubt about it, Carol's behaviour is more like that of a pervert. It is like a School teacher going out with her student. Is she lacking something in her life to make her snatch a cradle?! It is just not nice at all. It is all very disturbing and should not be allowed
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Old 20-11-2011, 15:56
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i'm not sure what that has to do with it, but ok
It has alot to do with- caroline finds him attractive obviously and he finds her attractive as well. He is over thw age of consent, tey didnt kill anyone or harm anyone else (aside from the tweenies who are sending her death threats, nice) so it should be of no concern to anyone
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Old 20-11-2011, 15:58
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No doubt about it, Carol's behaviour is more like that of a pervert. It is like a School teacher going out with her student. Is she lacking something in her life to make her snatch a cradle?! It is just not nice at all. It is all very disturbing and should not be allowed
this post is the most disturbing thing I've seen all week- Likening caroline to a paedophile is pretty low

Are you going to call bruce willis a pervert for marrying someone 20 years younger than him, thought not
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:05
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this post is the most disturbing thing I've seen all week- Likening caroline to a paedophile is pretty low

Are you going to call bruce willis a pervert for marrying someone 20 years younger than him, thought not
No Bruce Willis did not marry a 16/17 year old. I did not call her a Paedophile, but a cradle snatcher. She should know better.
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:09
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You know what I find objectionable? Calling something or some people "really, really, really sad". If you want to make logical and reasonable criticisms then go ahead and attempt to do so, not talk about how "sad" people are or you find them.

Calling someone sad is a lazy insult and just the word "sad" is intended to make a person feel a lot less positive about themselves. At least if you call someone an idiot or reckless they can highly disagree, but calling someone sad is a coward's insult imo, it's like something biting without technically calling them a bad name. If you're sad keep it to yourself or people you can trust, maybe try and figure out the reasons for it.



Of course she does, she could pass for 21 without a second glance, I don't know what that person is on about. Though I have never seen her without make-up.
Erm, I gave quite a detailed response, I said I find it quite sad that a 32 year old would date a 17 year old. I used the word sad as in the context of it being lame. Thats my opinion, you are more than welcome to disagree with it, but I feel my opinion is valid.


This could go on forever, so I'll make this my last comment. Judgemental opinions are always unreasonable and unfair, because they're based on unfair, unnecessary comparisons. Being judgemental is about weighing others up when you have no need to, usually in order to make yourself feel better.

These comparisons are flawed, because as you realise, these people are not you, and their attraction to one another doesn't mean they're thinking of each other in school uniforms and so on, as you are.

I've been in an age disparate relationship myself as the younger person, and I've had to deal with the same kind of sermonising busybodies in this thread and others who think they understand what's going on.

I just don't see why people feel the need to try and attack others in this way. It doesn't matter if you can't understand the attraction. All that matters is that they do, and they aren't hurting anyone else.

It doesn't get more playground than that, ironically enough - the sneering at other people's relationships when they don't bother you is a sign of immaturity in itself.

Well sure they can do what they want, but on a forum if a thread spikes my interest, I will comment on it, like people do about many things, with my opinion.

While there may be flaws in my opinion, it doesn't invalidate it and trying to belittle me for having an opposing opinion to you isn't going to sway me I'm afraid.

Oh and I am in no way attacking her nor interfering in her life, I am merely commenting on an internet forum that I find the thought of a 17 year old and a 32 year old somewhat icky.

I'm just as entitled to say that as the next person is entitled to say they should have babies together.
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:13
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it's a shame but i did like her on the xtra factor, but it kinda puts me off her knowing she is involved with a 17 yr old boy, i know it's not illegal but its still def wrong imo
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:17
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No Bruce Willis did not marry a 16/17 year old. I did not call her a Paedophile, but a cradle snatcher. She should know better.
you referred to her behaving like a pervert which is pretty much basically calling her a paedphile

Bruce willi married someone 20 years younger than him regardless of her age- Caroline had a little fling with someone whose over the age of consent and much less then 20 year age gap

Bloody hell it's been blown out of proportion,
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:21
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you referred to her behaving like a pervert which is pretty much basically calling her a paedphile

Bruce willi married someone 20 years younger than him regardless of her age- Caroline had a little fling with someone whose over the age of consent and much less then 20 year age gap

Bloody hell it's been blown out of proportion,
I was under the impression that pervert meant someone who has deviated from a social norm in a way that is considered dark, unhealthy way or in a way that is considered morally wrong.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pervert


There we go, it basically means morally corrupt. So a bit unfair to equate someone saying that something is perverted is calling them a peadophile. I think the poster meant "dirty" or thereabouts, which still isn't saying what you are implying.

I don't think she is being perverted btw.
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:27
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It would be weird if true but bear in mind it's likely a load of bollocks.
Caroline tweeted referring to a daily star story about Harry moving in with her that it wasn't true but gave her a good giggle
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Old 20-11-2011, 16:27
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it's a shame but i did like her on the xtra factor, but it kinda puts me off her knowing she is involved with a 17 yr old boy, i know it's not illegal but its still def wrong imo
Who said she is going out with hime. They may have gone out for a meal but that does not mean they are boyfriend & girlfriend and even if she wants to go out with a 17 year old there is nothing wrong with it .

I suspect it would not work if she did. A 17 year old is likely to have very different interest to a 32 year old who is probably lloking to settle down and have children.
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