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Old 18-11-2011, 20:16
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oh how i used to love this show

i thought it would benefit from a young producer such as cameron walsh. perhaps drag it into the 21st century? but hes failed miserably!

what is it with aussie soaps appearing like they were made 20 years ago?
its like they started off well in the 80s/90s but just stayed there and never moved forward!!

cheesey beyond belief and some nauseatingly dull storylines.

and a question thats been niggling at me is why on earth are there no homosexuals in summerbay!!
is it immune from the gay gene?? or can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet.

no wonder the aussies hate it ! not even they put up with this crud, so how can anyone expect the UK to? the place with some of the best television on the planet.

im flouncing, and after many long years. switching off!
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:00
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What the show needs is a MASSIVE revamp.

Infact, I think it's gotten to the point where they need to wipe out any of the cast who joined post-2007 (except Maz and Roo), and jump a year in time, re-introducing us to all these people again, a year later and with a new foster family at the helm.

Pilot V2, basically . An easy fix.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:01
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I've quite liked it lately, especially the River Boys stuff.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:04
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I've quite liked it lately, especially the River Boys stuff.
Yeah me to. I probably wouldn't watch home and away if they weren't in it. I like Braxs relationship with Charlie. I think they have good chemistry.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:07
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I like it a lot, the reason they shy away from gay relationships is because when Charlie became a lesbian the show received lots and lots of complaints from bigots.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:10
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I like it a lot, the reason they shy away from gay relationships is because when Charlie became a lesbian the show received lots and lots of complaints from bigots.
The real controversy was that idiotic network Seven giving in to that tiny minority and ultimately supporting their protests.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:34
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oh how i used to love this show

i thought it would benefit from a young producer such as cameron walsh. perhaps drag it into the 21st century? but hes failed miserably!

what is it with aussie soaps appearing like they were made 20 years ago?
its like they started off well in the 80s/90s but just stayed there and never moved forward!!

cheesey beyond belief and some nauseatingly dull storylines.

and a question thats been niggling at me is why on earth are there no homosexuals in summerbay!!
is it immune from the gay gene?? or can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet.

no wonder the aussies hate it ! not even they put up with this crud, so how can anyone expect the UK to? the place with some of the best television on the planet.

im flouncing, and after many long years. switching off!
Indeed. I wholeheartedly agree. For me, I always found it cringworthy, but it was acceptable enough to watch. Nowadays, it is cringeworthy beyond belief that I cannot watch even 10 minutes of it. And it has become more of a police show than a soap in recent years.

As for the River Boys gang war plot, that is probably the most unrealistic and silly portrayal of a gang war I have EVER seen in my life. What actual war or fighting was there? Other than rival gangs setting fire to each other's cars lol? A gang war usually involves A WHOLE LOT of guns or other weapons and wounded/dead people. There's usually a kind of territorial mentality that comes with gang wars (e.g. the UK post code wars) that the writers don't seem to be aware of. A lot of it just seems to consist of the River Boys and Hammer's gang eyeballing each other on the beach lol. That's about it. This is probably the softest gang war in history lol. And don't get me started on their pretty boy surfer looks lol - they look more like models than gangsters lol.
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:42
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Indeed. I wholeheartedly agree. For me, I always found it cringworthy, but it was acceptable enough to watch. Nowadays, it is cringeworthy beyond belief that I cannot watch even 10 minutes of it. And it has become more of a police show than a soap in recent years.
Exactly!! It is pure dross thesedays! I tuned into the episodes for the storm and even they were a complete let down!! I shant be watching again!!
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Old 18-11-2011, 21:52
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Exactly!! It is pure dross thesedays! I tuned into the episodes for the storm and even they were a complete let down!! I shant be watching again!!
lol yes, me too. The storm episodes were quite a letdown IMHO. And it felt like they were repeating some of the same scenes and bits of dialogue they done in past storm episodes! I think they copy and pasted bits of an old storm script over to the new script!
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Old 18-11-2011, 22:01
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lol yes, me too. The storm episodes were quite a letdown IMHO. And it felt like they were repeating some of the same scenes and bits of dialogue they done in past storm episodes! I think they copy and pasted bits of an old storm script over to the new script!
I thought they based it on this old storm episode: http://youtu.be/ClqbITJbu_A
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Old 18-11-2011, 22:08
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I thought they based it on this old storm episode: http://youtu.be/ClqbITJbu_A
WTF lol. Hahahahhaha. You're mad. No, not that storm episode .

I dunno but I've watched A LOT of storm episodes over the years and it seems like this storm episode was made from re-using bits from old storm episodes IMHO.
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Old 18-11-2011, 23:15
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I'm really enjoying Home and Away at the moment...! Loving the whole Riverboys storyline and agree with the post above that Brax has excellent chemistry with Charlie.

The thing with Home and Away is that, yes, some storylines are ridiculous and cringey, but it's supposed to be like that! They have a good mix of light-hearted storylines and then more serious storyline in my opinion.

Also I think the cast is really strong. They have a mixture of youth talent (Romeo, Ruby, Casey etc) along with the legends like Alf, Irene, Coleen, Marilyn etc.

For me the thing that makes it far superior to Neighbours is the way the new characters join and you can warm to them easily..! The only character I'm not fond of is Elijah. Xavier is annoying and not a great actor but you can't help but like him. The storylines are great at the moment.

Home and Away is definitely my fave soap. Also in Australia Home and Away is more popular than Neighbours but over here it's kindof reverse
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Old 18-11-2011, 23:29
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Indeed. I wholeheartedly agree. For me, I always found it cringworthy, but it was acceptable enough to watch. Nowadays, it is cringeworthy beyond belief that I cannot watch even 10 minutes of it. And it has become more of a police show than a soap in recent years.

As for the River Boys gang war plot, that is probably the most unrealistic and silly portrayal of a gang war I have EVER seen in my life. What actual war or fighting was there? Other than rival gangs setting fire to each other's cars lol? A gang war usually involves A WHOLE LOT of guns or other weapons and wounded/dead people. There's usually a kind of territorial mentality that comes with gang wars (e.g. the UK post code wars) that the writers don't seem to be aware of. A lot of it just seems to consist of the River Boys and Hammer's gang eyeballing each other on the beach lol. That's about it. This is probably the softest gang war in history lol. And don't get me started on their pretty boy surfer looks lol - they look more like models than gangsters lol.
I think because of the times that its aired they couldn't do much more than they did really with this storyline.
I do agree it is unrealistic but I personally still found it enjoyable.
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Old 18-11-2011, 23:45
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I think because of the times that its aired they couldn't do much more than they did really with this storyline.
I do agree it is unrealistic but I personally still found it enjoyable.
Yeah. That's true. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a decent storyline with a few good thrills, but a lot of the time it was hard for me to ignore the ridiculousness and in turn I couldn't enjoy it. I just ended up laughing at it, which I shouldn't be doing as a viewer because it's suppose to be a serious storyline. I mean soaps in general are not very realistic, but H&A in recent years has gone off the scale in terms of its unrealism at times IMHO. But I wouldn't say it's in crisis though - just needs better, more realistic storylines with attention to detail. H&A should stick to what its good at - romance plots. They do romance very well. They should leave the crime plots as they do not work and come off too unrealistic and silly, because they're not allowed to show overly violent scenes.

But you do make a good point about the airing time. Although Hollyoaks does seem to get away with a lot more murder/violence and it comes on around the same time as Home & Away in Australia and is targeted at the same teenage audience....
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Old 18-11-2011, 23:47
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oh how i used to love this show

i thought it would benefit from a young producer such as cameron walsh. perhaps drag it into the 21st century? but hes failed miserably!

what is it with aussie soaps appearing like they were made 20 years ago?
its like they started off well in the 80s/90s but just stayed there and never moved forward!!

cheesey beyond belief and some nauseatingly dull storylines.

and a question thats been niggling at me is why on earth are there no homosexuals in summerbay!!
is it immune from the gay gene?? or can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet.

no wonder the aussies hate it ! not even they put up with this crud, so how can anyone expect the UK to? the place with some of the best television on the planet.

im flouncing, and after many long years. switching off!


Being Australian I have to ask on earth are you talking about?

Cheesy storylines beyond belief? It's not Passions!

As for why no gay characters well i think you're right to lay that at Walsh's feet.

Australians don't hate H&A it rates in the top 5 shows EVERY night for most of the year with over a million people an episode. Are The River Boys hogging the limelight too much? Yes! but the show isn't in dire straits. Not yet.

That would be Neighbores. Sometimes it's a dull as dish water, doesn't even get half the audience of H&A a night & if it wasn't for the U.K watching & putting up the $$$ it would of been cancelled years ago.
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Old 18-11-2011, 23:59
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It's terrible at the moment the River boy's are the only reason why I tune in. 1998/2005 where the best year's there where good strong characters like. The Sutherlands,The Nash's,Fisher,Scott,Hayley and Sally. The show need's a complete revamp.
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Old 19-11-2011, 00:40
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Australians don't hate H&A it rates in the top 5 shows EVERY night for most of the year with over a million people an episode.
'Home and Away' is not in the top five most popular programs in Australia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tings_for_2011
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Old 19-11-2011, 00:52
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oh how i used to love this show

i thought it would benefit from a young producer such as cameron walsh. perhaps drag it into the 21st century? but hes failed miserably!

what is it with aussie soaps appearing like they were made 20 years ago?
its like they started off well in the 80s/90s but just stayed there and never moved forward!!

cheesey beyond belief and some nauseatingly dull storylines.

and a question thats been niggling at me is why on earth are there no homosexuals in summerbay!!
is it immune from the gay gene?? or can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet.no wonder the aussies hate it ! not even they put up with this crud, so how can anyone expect the UK to? the place with some of the best television on the planet.

im flouncing, and after many long years. switching off!
Not this again. "Can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet." That is such a bigoted thing to say about Australians. Home and Away is not the only television show Australia has ever produced. There have been a lot of gay and lesbian characters on Australian TV over the years so our minds can cope thank you very much. It is unfair to use Home and Away as a representative of what Australian TV viewsers can and can't cope with because the overwhelming majority don't even watch it.

Indeed. I wholeheartedly agree. For me, I always found it cringworthy, but it was acceptable enough to watch. Nowadays, it is cringeworthy beyond belief that I cannot watch even 10 minutes of it. And it has become more of a police show than a soap in recent years.

As for the River Boys gang war plot, that is probably the most unrealistic and silly portrayal of a gang war I have EVER seen in my life. What actual war or fighting was there? Other than rival gangs setting fire to each other's cars lol? A gang war usually involves A WHOLE LOT of guns or other weapons and wounded/dead people. There's usually a kind of territorial mentality that comes with gang wars (e.g. the UK post code wars) that the writers don't seem to be aware of. A lot of it just seems to consist of the River Boys and Hammer's gang eyeballing each other on the beach lol. That's about it. This is probably the softest gang war in history lol. And don't get me started on their pretty boy surfer looks lol - they look more like models than gangsters lol.
These are small coastal town gangs. If the show was set in Sydney or Melbourne and they were depicting inner city gang warfare it would be a different story. As for torching cars it is a very effective way to hurt their enemies. For a lot of young guys in small Australian towns and even in cities their car is their pride and joy. It's a symbol of masculinity. Often when I'm waiting at traffic lights I've had young guys proudly grinning at me from their souped up cars, revving their engines and wanting me to be impressed. Any one of them would be devastated if someone torched their car.
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:01
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Not this again. "Can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet." That is such a bigoted thing to say about Australians. Home and Away is not the only television show Australia has ever produced. There have been a lot of gay and lesbian characters on Australian TV over the years so our minds can cope thank you very much. It is unfair to use Home and Away as a representative of what Australian TV viewsers can and can't cope with because the overwhelming majority don't even watch it.
Of course the second any one criticises 'EastEnders' there are fans who chime in with "it is only a soap, it is not meant to be realistic or represent real issues" (Look at the George Michael criticises 'EastEnders' thread.)

'Home and Away' is a small scale production and not especially popular in Australia at all. Certainly it is not something that is seen to be very important or relevant, and it is not like it grabs many headlines. Just another lightweight teen series.
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:11
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Not this again. "Can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet." That is such a bigoted thing to say about Australians. Home and Away is not the only television show Australia has ever produced. There have been a lot of gay and lesbian characters on Australian TV over the years so our minds can cope thank you very much. It is unfair to use Home and Away as a representative of what Australian TV viewsers can and can't cope with because the overwhelming majority don't even watch it.



These are small coastal town gangs. If the show was set in Sydney or Melbourne and they were depicting inner city gang warfare it would be a different story. As for torching cars it is a very effective way to hurt their enemies. For a lot of young guys in small Australian towns and even in cities their car is their pride and joy. It's a symbol of masculinity. Often when I'm waiting at traffic lights I've had young guys proudly grinning at me from their souped up cars, revving their engines and wanting me to be impressed. Any one of them would be devastated if someone torched their car.
True. I agree with you. But what I meant was that a gang war does not consist of people just setting fire to each other's cars and eyeballing each other on a beach - it is much more violent and bloody than that involving a lot of weapons and a territorial mentality. I'm not saying they would not be devastated by their cars being set on fire and yes, it is an effective way to hurt their enemies. Any man would be devastated by that. But that should only be a small part of a gang war. A gang war is much more bigger than a bunch of cars being set on fire. People's lives are geninuely on the line as rival gangs do not want to back down and seem weak. I didn't see that geniune danger or potential for violence in H&A.
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:20
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Yeah. That's true. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a decent storyline with a few good thrills, but a lot of the time it was hard for me to ignore the ridiculousness and in turn I couldn't enjoy it. I just ended up laughing at it, which I shouldn't be doing as a viewer because it's suppose to be a serious storyline. I mean soaps in general are not very realistic, but H&A in recent years has gone off the scale in terms of its unrealism at times IMHO. But I wouldn't say it's in crisis though - just needs better, more realistic storylines with attention to detail. H&A should stick to what its good at - romance plots. They do romance very well. They should leave the crime plots as they do not work and come off too unrealistic and silly, because they're not allowed to show overly violent scenes.
I'm fully aware of this as you can see above. EE can be quite unrealistic at times as can all soaps, but for me it's acceptable enough. EE also has a gritty tone which helps and gives it that layer of pseudo-realism to cover the ridiculousness, while other soaps can be really blatantly unrealistic. Never been on that George Michael thread so I dunno about that. But if posters are really saying that, then that's just ridiculous.
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:39
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Not this again. "Can the australian TVs audience minds not quite cope with 'that sort of thing' yet." That is such a bigoted thing to say about Australians. Home and Away is not the only television show Australia has ever produced. There have been a lot of gay and lesbian characters on Australian TV over the years so our minds can cope thank you very much. It is unfair to use Home and Away as a representative of what Australian TV viewsers can and can't cope with because the overwhelming majority don't even watch it.

These are small coastal town gangs. If the show was set in Sydney or Melbourne and they were depicting inner city gang warfare it would be a different story. As for torching cars it is a very effective way to hurt their enemies. For a lot of young guys in small Australian towns and even in cities their car is their pride and joy. It's a symbol of masculinity. Often when I'm waiting at traffic lights I've had young guys proudly grinning at me from their souped up cars, revving their engines and wanting me to be impressed. Any one of them would be devastated if someone torched their car.
By far the most interesting post on this bizarre thread so far!
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:40
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True. I agree with you. But what I meant was that a gang war does not consist of people just setting fire to each other's cars and eyeballing each other on a beach - it is much more violent and bloody than that involving a lot of weapons and a territorial mentality. I'm not saying they would not be devastated by their cars being set on fire and yes, it is an effective way to hurt their enemies. Any man would be devastated by that. But that should only be a small part of a gang war. A gang war is much more bigger than a bunch of cars being set on fire. People's lives are geninuely on the line as both gangs do not want to back down. I didn't see that geniune danger or potential for violence in H&A.
I understand where you're coming from. The gun toting, knife wielding men in colourful bandanas are what is traditionally considered a gang. However, this is not the only kind of gang. There are many types of antisocial gangs with wide variations in their levels of violence. In my town I know of a small groups of 12 year old boys who consider themselves a gang and they talk like Fatboy and put on a macho show for the shopping centre security guards when in reality the hardest thing these gangsters do is scrawl threatening graffiti in bus shelters and hurl abuse at rival 'gangs'. In small coastal towns in Australia we don't really have violent gang warfare. If it happens it's rare. The River Boys are not traditional gangsters, they're just chestbeaters putting on a show so people think they're tough so they would not use traditional gang methods of warfare. However, if you went to Sydney or Melbourne you could see the more traditional kind of gangs and violence.
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Old 19-11-2011, 01:57
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I understand where you're coming from. The gun toting, knife wielding men in colourful bandanas are what is traditionally considered a gang. However, this is not the only kind of gang. There are many types of antisocial gangs with wide variations in their levels of violence. In my town I know of a small groups of 12 year old boys who consider themselves a gang and they talk like Fatboy and put on a macho show for the shopping centre security guards when in reality the hardest thing these gangsters do is scrawl threatening graffiti in bus shelters and hurl abuse at rival 'gangs'. In small coastal towns in Australia we don't really have violent gang warfare. If it happens it's rare. The River Boys are not traditional gangsters, they're just chestbeaters putting on a show so people think they're tough so they would not use traditional gang methods of warfare. However, if you went to Sydney or Melbourne you could see the more traditional kind of gangs and violence.
Agreed. I have a lot of the same hormonal, teenage gangster rejects in my town too haha.

But the thing that annoys me most about the River Boys is that some episodes the writers go to the trouble of showing how tough, hardcore and ruthless and organised the River Boys are (especially in their early episodes). Then other episodes they're like all sensitive and caring people (well Brax and Heath anyway) lol and don't seem to have any real organization as a gang. So I don't know what they're suppose to be. Are they a serious, organised gang who would follow through on a violent threat against a rival gang or just macho chestbeaters as you say? I think the latter seems to be the case.
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Old 19-11-2011, 10:50
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i lost all respect for this show after the charlie/joey debacle.
the fact that so many complaints were made because of a couple of lesbians is absolutly mortifying! and ofcourse it reflects badly on australia ofcourse it does! (sorry aussie forum members) but you cant expect people not to get the wrong impression, british soaps see gays/lesbians etc on soaps on a regular basis and nowhere near as much as a fuss is kicked up! hollyoaks is on around the same time as home and away and hollyoaks is constantly portraying homosexual relationships and onscreen kissing. its just bizarre.
its even more disgraceful that the channel gave in to these complaints and cut the storyline short. it actually saddens me a little, its like they were a couple of lepers.

i become what you could call a 'casual' viewer.
i tuned in the other day to the part where dex's GF was telling him she wanted to become a doctor and the relationship would have to go on hold. (cringe) i mean seriously, who cares?
and on the subject of the river boys, they are pretty tame to say the least. though they are pretty hot which is one thing i can say about home and away - it always provides somthing to look at!

and as for neighbours well if i wanted to be bored into a coma....
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