....with Aliona.
That remark about her having a "nasty way about her" was bang out of order. What is he basing that comment on?
That remark about her having a "nasty way about her" was bang out of order. What is he basing that comment on?
What exactly is Len's problem.....
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I think it's because she said on ITT. that she never listens to the judges. He seems to have been nasty to her after that.
Time for Len to go - I didn't miss him at all the other week and think he no longer adds to the programme. To take an off the cuff remark to heart shows a distinct lack of professionalism on his part 
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First time posting but wanted to say that I really feel Len overstepped the mark tonight with that comment. Have watched it back several times and not convinced he doesn't say Harry before it not Aliona. Either way totally unacceptable and beyond his remit to give a critcique based on technique/performance/both. A personal attack that should not be condoned by anyone - even the anti Aliona/Harry brigade. Completely spoilt tonight's show for me (and my family)
Originally Posted by dancemadgirl:
“First time posting but wanted to say that I really feel Len overstepped the mark tonight with that comment. Have watched it back several times and not convinced he doesn't say Harry before it not Aliona. Either way totally unacceptable and beyond his remit to give a critcique based on technique/performance/both. A personal attack that should not be condoned by anyone - even the anti Aliona/Harry brigade. Completely spoilt tonight's show for me (and my family)”
“First time posting but wanted to say that I really feel Len overstepped the mark tonight with that comment. Have watched it back several times and not convinced he doesn't say Harry before it not Aliona. Either way totally unacceptable and beyond his remit to give a critcique based on technique/performance/both. A personal attack that should not be condoned by anyone - even the anti Aliona/Harry brigade. Completely spoilt tonight's show for me (and my family)
”
I felt the same and have just made a complaint to the BBC about it on their website. It's made me feel instantly better having got it off my chest!
Originally Posted by georgeshair:
“I think it's because she said on ITT. that she never listens to the judges. He seems to have been nasty to her after that.”
“I think it's because she said on ITT. that she never listens to the judges. He seems to have been nasty to her after that.”
To be fair to Aliona, she didn't actually say that.
I love the way when she hears things she rolls her eyes and smiles like 'me-so-sexy'. Len is consumed with frustrated lust. Sexy b****
Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
That's how i saw it.
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
I haven't watch the show but I am inclined to believe you FF. I think those people are just trying to use Len as the red herring to mask the fact that Aliona apparently choreographed a SAMBA instead of a Salsa for Harry. If so, then they could even have got less than what they were scoring and should count themselves really lucky. I mean how can I, say, dance a rumba when I am supposed to dance a jive for instance?
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
And you're saying it was a joke because of what exactly??? It's not like anyone was laughing.
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
“Actuall he didn't say it to Aliona- it was to Harry and it was a joke and Harry took it as such - have you all completely lost your sense of humour?”
I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion
Originally Posted by dancemadgirl:
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
I'm no fan of Len, but surely this was meant to be a joke. When has Harry ever been nasty?
Originally Posted by the nooster:
“And you're saying it was a joke because of what exactly??? It's not like anyone was laughing.”
“And you're saying it was a joke because of what exactly??? It's not like anyone was laughing.
”
Originally Posted by dancemadgirl:
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
He was clearly talking to Harry and prefaced it with something and intimated with tone and facial expression that it was a joke. Harry understood that clearly. In fact Harry is clearly the grown up in that partnership.
His criticism was also extremely spot on and something that should have been corrected by Aliona.
Originally Posted by dancemadgirl:
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
“I didn't get the feel it was said as a joke and just because Harry always takes criticism with good grace does not make a personal attack acceptable in my opinion”
Exactly!! Mountain out of a mole hill springs to mind.......
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“His criticism was also extremely spot on and something that should have been corrected by Aliona.”
“His criticism was also extremely spot on and something that should have been corrected by Aliona.”
No, it is something for Aliona to work on correcting in future, and I'm sure she will.
Originally Posted by teeswolf:
“No, it is something for Aliona to work on correcting in future, and I'm sure she will.”
“No, it is something for Aliona to work on correcting in future, and I'm sure she will.”
Well they have done the samba and salsa and she hasn't corrected it and as its the basic step for the dance this did this week perhaps it would have been pertinent?!
I think I was taught the back step with the front step of the basic....
I'm very upset by Len's comments about H &A. In my opinion he's making himself look like a silly old fool. You only have to compare the marks given by Len and Craig for the dances tonight and in the last few weeks to see his dislike of Aliona. Someone should have a word because it's getting silly. And this is my 1st post because I'm so upset
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I haven't watch the show but I am inclined to believe you FF. I think those people are just trying to use Len as the red herring to mask the fact that Aliona apparently choreographed a SAMBA instead of a Salsa for Harry. If so, then they could even have got less than what they were scoring and should count themselves really lucky. I mean how can I, say, dance a rumba when I am supposed to dance a jive for instance?”
“I haven't watch the show but I am inclined to believe you FF. I think those people are just trying to use Len as the red herring to mask the fact that Aliona apparently choreographed a SAMBA instead of a Salsa for Harry. If so, then they could even have got less than what they were scoring and should count themselves really lucky. I mean how can I, say, dance a rumba when I am supposed to dance a jive for instance?”
That was a salsa, and all the steps (well, all the dance steps) in there were salsa. Len made a mistake and probably didn't even realise he had said Samba and not Salsa.
I thought he said it about himself? (the comment he made to Harry)
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