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Old 19-11-2011, 21:17
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I don't agree, I listen to a lot of different types of music, past and present, granted not so much stuff from the 50's and 60's and I've never heard that song before.
Yes but you're not mentoring on X Factor, nor , suspect, in an industry where legacy is incredibly important.
It would be a bit like an actor not knowing about Shakespeare.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:18
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she's in the music industry and she's a judge on a music show ... she should have a broad knowledge of music old and new and across all genres

Think is a classic by a music industry legend .. it was used in Bridget Jones' Diary and the Halifax advert ... there's no excuses for someone in her position

I wasn't born when Frank Sinatra had all his hits but I've heard of them ... age isn't an excuse
How is number 26 on the charts a hit?
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:19
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Yeah the chorus sounded very familiar to me as well, just googled the song and it got to number 26 on the UK singles charts, so hardly a massive hit over here like people are making out!
It was used in The Halifax advert not too long ago which was shown constantly on the TV
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:20
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It didn't need to chart Laura. It was in the film Blues Brothers, which is , you may or may not know, incredibly famous; cult even. And it probably is the most famous scene from that film.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:20
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It was used in The Halifax advert not too long ago which was shown constantly on the TV
Probably the chorus, which is why it sounded familiar to me. I still stand by the fact that it's not a massive hit seeing as it only got to number 26. If it got to number one or even in the top 5 people might have a point. Number 26 is not a hit, regardless of whether it was in a Halifax commercial or not.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:22
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How is number 26 on the charts a hit?
where did I say it was a hit? .. I said it was a "classic" . ie it's known worldwide and is often performed on variety shows

it was in two movies .. Bridget Jones and The Blues Brothers and a major UK TV advert

I'm not saying everyone should have heard of it but Tulisa as a judge and as someone in the music industry should have heard of it

she made a fool of herself tonight as she's done other weeks with her lack of musical knowledge .. it's like someone judging a painting competition who'd never heard of The Mona Lisa
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:23
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It didn't need to chart Laura. It was in the film Blues Brothers, which is , you may or may not know, incredibly famous; cult even. And it probably is the most famous scene from that film.
So it's not a hit is it? It's a song which made it to number 26 and was used in a film released 31 years ago. It's not a classic song which everyone should have heard of by any means.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:26
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So it's not a hit is it? It's a song which made it to number 26 and was used in a film released 31 years ago. It's not a classic song which everyone should have heard of by any means.
it was in Bridget Jones Edge Of Reason in 2004 and this advert a couple of years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVLpGYlvUyc
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:26
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where did I say it was a hit? .. I said it was a "classic" . ie it's known worldwide and is often performed on variety shows

it was in two movies .. Bridget Jones and The Blues Brothers and a major UK TV advert

I'm not saying everyone should have heard of it but Tulisa as a judge and as someone in the music industry should have heard of it

she made a fool of herself tonight as she's done other weeks with her lack of musical knowledge .. it's like someone judging a painting competition who'd never heard of The Mona Lisa
You said you've heard of all Frank Sinartras hits even though they were before you were born so age isn't an excuse. Which is why I said the song isn't a hit, meaning your comment doesn't really apply.

Why is it a song which anyone in the music industry today should have heard of? It's around 50 years old and wasn't even a hit over here. Just because it was used in some films it doesn't make it a classic which everyone "in the know" should have heard of. What exactly did that song do for the music industry which means she should have heard of it?
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:27
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I know they do say that ignorance is bliss but if you make your living in the music industry and appear as a judge on a music show you have to know the basics and that is a well known song.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:28
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So it's not a hit is it? It's a song which made it to number 26 and was used in a film released 31 years ago. It's not a classic song which everyone should have heard of by any means.
This post is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, your definition of hit seems hilarliously skewed. If we judge songs on chart placing alone, we can discount a lot of Beatles/ Elvis tracks which are massive but never had formal released.

And to say that Think, one of the most covered and re-recorded songs of all time, isn't a classic is just plain sad.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:29
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You said you've heard of all Frank Sinartras hits even though they were before you were born so age isn't an excuse. Which is why I said the song isn't a hit, meaning your comment doesn't really apply.

Why is it a song which anyone in the music industry today should have heard of? It's around 50 years old and wasn't even a hit over here. Just because it was used in some films it doesn't make it a classic which everyone "in the know" should have heard of. What exactly did that song do for the music industry which means she should have heard of it?
One of the first R&B songs to succesfully cross into the pop market is what it was. Like it or not, it's a huge song in terms of it's legacy and to dismiss it purely because of it's chart placing is incredibly small minded.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:30
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it was in Bridget Jones Edge Of Reason in 2004 and this advert a couple of years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVLpGYlvUyc
But that doesn't make it a classic which everyone in the industry should have heard of. Lots of crap songs are put into big films and adverts (not that I'm saying this is a crap song). I just don't see why she should have heard of a song which wasn't even a hit just because it was used in a couple of films and a halifax advert
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:30
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It's ridiculous! What was even more ridiculous was the fact that she saying her never hearing of it was a reason to criticise the performance
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:30
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LOL. I totally agree OP. Tulisa shouldn't be a judge or mentor as her critique is just awful and shows how unqualified and inexperienced to be a judge of anything involving music.
Yes it's shameful.

She's getting paid a s-load of money and gaining a heap of expose which is worth even more, despite being crap in everything surrounding her chosen career.

Is a bit like Cheryl Cole though.
I don't understand why so many people idolise these individuals.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:30
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One of the first R&B songs to succesfully cross into the pop market is what it was. Like it or not, it's a huge song in terms of it's legacy and to dismiss it purely because of it's chart placing is incredibly small minded.
You're arguing with a brick wall my lovely.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:33
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This post is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, your definition of hit seems hilarliously skewed. If we judge songs on chart placing alone, we can discount a lot of Beatles/ Elvis tracks which are massive but never had formal released.

And to say that Think, one of the most covered and re-recorded songs of all time, isn't a classic is just plain sad.
The difference is this song was released, those songs weren't. Can't really compare them, if they had been released there's no doubt they would have charted highly.

Covered by who? The chorus sounded very familiar to me, but never heard the verses before. Well if that makes me sad then so be it!
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:34
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But that doesn't make it a classic which everyone in the industry should have heard of. Lots of crap songs are put into big films and adverts (not that I'm saying this is a crap song). I just don't see why she should have heard of a song which wasn't even a hit just because it was used in a couple of films and a halifax advert

It wasn't "just used in a couple of films".

It was recently named the 15th best song of the 1960's.
It's been performed 7 times alone on American Idol.
It reached number on the US "Black Singles Chart".
It's a Grammy winner.
It was a Billboard R&B chart topper
It was included in Rolling Stone magazines 500 Best Songs of All-Time list.

Might not mean a lot to those whose music taste is dictated by Simon Cowell, but in terms of true music fans, those acheivments are pretty massive.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:37
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It wasn't "just used in a couple of films".

It was recently named the 15th best song of the 1960's.
It's been performed 7 times alone on American Idol.
It reached number on the US "Black Singles Chart".
It's a Grammy winner.
It was a Billboard R&B chart topper
It was included in Rolling Stone magazines 500 Best Songs of All-Time list.

Might not mean a lot to those whose music taste is dictated by Simon Cowell, but in terms of true music fans, those acheivments are pretty massive.
Yeah so I gather it was massive in America, this is the UK and not everything which is massive in America crosses over here. Hah! So now I have poor musical taste? If you are going to start with the sly insults then I can't be arsed to debate with you.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:39
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But that doesn't make it a classic which everyone in the industry should have heard of. Lots of crap songs are put into big films and adverts (not that I'm saying this is a crap song). I just don't see why she should have heard of a song which wasn't even a hit just because it was used in a couple of films and a halifax advert
Laura, read 21st Century Boy's post...it will enlighten you!!!

If you are in the music industry and are part of a particular genre, it's a fair assumption to make that you will know about your genre - your contemporaries, your predecessors and the origins of your genre. Urban music traces it's origins back to American fifties and sixties R n B - and Aretha Franklin was at the forefront of this. 2 of her most famous songs are Respect and Think. For Tulisa to not know 'Think' shows incredible ignorance of the origins of her own genre.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:39
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Tulisa obviously doesn't have the torrent of Pitchfork Media's 200 Greatest Songs of the 1960s on her iPod.
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:40
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Laura, read 21st Century Boy's post...it will enlighten you!!!

If you are in the music industry and are part of a particular genre, it's a fair assumption to make that you will know about your genre - your contemporaries, your predecessors and the origins of your genre. Urban music traces it's origins back to American fifties and sixties R n B - and Aretha Franklin was at the forefront of this. 2 of her biggest songs are Respect and Think. For Tulisa to not know 'Think' shows incredible ignorance of the origins of her own genre.
EXACTLY!
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:40
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Ah... a brick wall... somewhere to relax and rest my weary head... ta Laura
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:43
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Yeah so I gather it was massive in America, this is the UK and not everything which is massive in America crosses over here. Hah! So now I have poor musical taste? If you are going to start with the sly insults then I can't be arsed to debate with you.
I think what me and 21st century boy agree with is that Tulisa should of at least heard of this song even if she didn't know who it was by.
At the end of the day it's her job as a judge to be knowledgeable in this field.

I quite often hear songs and say "i know that tune" but for the life of me don't know who it was by.

I don't expect the GBP to know loads about music and statistics but being a music judge i expect a little more.

Do u not agree?
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Old 19-11-2011, 21:45
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Tulisa works in the music industry and has never heard of Think.
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