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Kelly was right to send Amelia home. She doesn't appeal to the public.
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pork.pie
21-11-2011
I really liked Amy Childs last night, her version of Firestarter was great... she will win... everyone on Twitter agrees... fabulous!
john176bramley
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Being in the bottom two once doesn't mean much - even more so on Week 7.

Interesting to note that Week 7 was when both Olly Murs and JLS were in the bottom two, both of whom went on to finish second and arguably have both overshadowed the winners in terms of success”

But Amelia has only been in the competition for 2 weeks.
devlinacious
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by slowdown:
“It's not about song choice. Why do people keep banging on about that? If a singer is supposed to be versatile and have the X Factor, then they should be able to nail any song thrown at them. Stop blaming the songs, blame the 'talent' or lack of.”

You posted this on another thread.

Do you simply cut and paste it onto every thread you can find without even reading the thread title?
devlinacious
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by slowdown:
“It's not about song choice. Why do people keep banging on about that? If a singer is supposed to be versatile and have the X Factor, then they should be able to nail any song thrown at them. Stop blaming the songs, blame the 'talent' or lack of.”

You posted this exact comment on another thread.

Do you simply cut and paste it at random without even reading the thread title?
spkx
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“But Amelia has only been in the competition for 2 weeks.”

The point is by Week 7 there are only a handful of acts left in, most of whom have never been in the bottom two before (indeed, as of yesterday only Misha had) and so being in the bottom two begins to mean less.

It's not as if she came bottom out of 16, or 10 conestants, she came 5 out of 6.

It also means a much smaller boost is need to move higher up the leaderboard. An increase of two positions in, say, week 2 may see you only at 9 out of 12, but Amelia's case it'd see her 3rd.
_ruairidh
21-11-2011
There's too many variables (song choice, singing slot, lack of an established fan base etc) to come to the conclusion that she doesn't appeal to the public.

Also, if she didn't appeal to the public, how on earth did she get voted back IN?
ArsenalX
21-11-2011
LOL, nonsense OP, pure f******ng nonsense.... i saw s*** like this coming a mile away, knew that someone would want to start this thread soon, but guess what you still aint got olid proof.

So Sophie did appeal to the public ha, remind me when she went away again, remind me how many judges voted against her again. Oh btw she isnt on X factor tour and guess who is, hahahaha......., guess who is in top 5 now?

BTW does Misha B appeal to the public, how many times she been in bottom 2.....

Guess what everyone except the person who wins will be in the bottom 2, or be a bottom 2, so yeah.
MakinItHappen
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by MartynMac123:
“Think it is funny how everyone hated Kelly for it. Amelia comes back, everyone thinks she will win it. Then no, she is in the bottom 2. Funny.”

No.

Think about it logically, Amelia was in the bottom through process of elimination.

Marcus is genuinely charismatic and a good performer on stage ... he's had 7 weeks to build up a respectably large fan-base with those qualities.

Janet survived on Ireland's votes for 3 weeks running and this week actually performed half decently, so she was naturally always going to be safe.

LittleMix, again like Marcus have had 7 weeks to build a fan-base, they were really good on Saturday and have had Tulisa agenting them to the public as being girl next door's that wouldn't ever steal tweenie girl's boyfriends.

Misha would have been in the bottom 2 but for the silly, sob story they gave her. That was her saving grace. I feel they are trying to compensate for the backlash that has been brought about through the bullying claims by Tulisa.

So that leaves Amelia with Craig in the bottom two through process of elimination. Had the producers not indoctrinated the public, it would have been Misha and Craig in the bottom two.

So you are wrong, its not that the public don't take to her, she is just starting on the F1 Grid down in 14th spot as she couldn't get many laps done on qualifying
AssistedAction
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“The point is by Week 7 there are only a handful of acts left in, most of whom have never been in the bottom two before (indeed, as of yesterday only Misha had) and so being in the bottom two begins to mean less.

It's not as if she came bottom out of 16, or 10 conestants, she came 5 out of 6.

It also means a much smaller boost is need to move higher up the leaderboard. An increase of two positions in, say, week 2 may see you only at 9 out of 12, but Amelia's case it'd see her 3rd.”

Would you like to twist the reality any other way? The fact is she was bottom two in her second week in the competition. If she appealed sufficiently to the public or if she were that good, she would still be in the honeymoon period. Janet has been there from the start and has survived two recent poor weeks. What does that tell you?

Originally Posted by _ruairidh:
“Also, if she didn't appeal to the public, how on earth did she get voted back IN?”

Exactly. How? I mean the opposition she faced from the other three options was sooooo strong.
unclekevo
21-11-2011
Amelia didn't pull off Think (Freedom) at all, I don't care about this guff about it not appealing to young people, she didn't sing it well and it's as simple as that.
barrcode88
21-11-2011
Nah she was just voted back in with 48% of the vote, dumb thread.
danielleh
21-11-2011
Kelly was right to send Amelia home, but not for the OP's reason. Sophie, Misha and Janet outperformed her, by quite some distance too. Amelia does/did appeal to the public - keeping her would have been the easy option, but not the right one.
Dorsetposh
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“Kelly was right to send Amelia home, but not for the OP's reason. Sophie, Misha and Janet outperformed her, by quite some distance too. Amelia does/did appeal to the public - keeping her would have been the easy option, but not the right one.”

Na she was better than Sophie and the fact that Sophie looked shocked and surprised when amelia was announced adds to that.

anyway the whole thing stank to high heaven with each judge having to send home one of their acts. Isnt the X Factor about trying to find the best singer not trying to appease the judges?

It was a shocking decision that quite rightly backfired in the producers faces!
Politiks
21-11-2011
The 'versatility' argument in terms of song choice is fair to a point but really, Pavarotti sounding good doing Toxic by Britney? Nah, bruv.
ribtickle
21-11-2011
I can't understand the fuss over this girl.

She's sang three competition songs and a sing off. Two of them resulted in her either being eliminated by her judge or near eliminated by the viewers after ending up in the bottom 2. Those two songs (Billie Jean and Think) revealed a limitation in her range, with her sounding strained.

The only stand out she had was when pimped to high heaven singing a well known Queen song, with lyrics which theatrically tied into her return, which itself provided a sympathy vote, to support the girl resuming her 'rightful' place in the competition. The sing off was average, a generic rock performance, like 5000 others could have delivered.
ArsenalX
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by MartynMac123:
“Think it is funny how everyone hated Kelly for it. Amelia comes back, everyone thinks she will win it. Then no, she is in the bottom 2. Funny.”

Its called potential to win, potential to go far,.....nothing is definate, you will simply be putting faith in someone based on their talent, we all do it, what kind of fan will one be if you dont believe in your fav acts. She is one ot the top competitiors in the competition but not the only possible winner, anything could happen. she is left with the best contestant now, definately did not deserve to go with the weakest links, she is were she is supposed to be and deserve to be right now. If she crushes out in top 5 now, she its not a bad place to be at all....


You think Kelly didnt choose Sophie thinking she could win and capture the audience?, she thought lots of people would be wowed in by her voice, but no she crushed out early with the likes of Cocozza and Johnny still in the competition.

Same with Misha B, everyone thought she would do an Alexandra and connect with the public and win the whole thing. Look what happen

You can save face OP, even Kelly was not right either in her decisions or predictions....Think about it no judge/mentor got it right 3/3 either....its a gamble
DuckSeason
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Being in the bottom two once doesn't mean much - even more so on Week 7.

Interesting to note that Week 7 was when both Olly Murs and JLS were in the bottom two, both of whom went on to finish second and arguably have both overshadowed the winners in terms of success”

This. Olly Murs actually had less votes than Jedward when he was in the bottom two, so if the judges had sent it to deadlock, he would have lost. This board should know more than anyone else that being in the bottom two one week doesn't guarantee you'll be there the next. Contestants can bounce back and improve, just as those who top the vote can plummet straight back down.

Amelia has run into trouble primarily because the songs she's been given just haven't been very good. Billie Jean was a poor choice, and while I personally thought she did alright with 'Think', it was overshadowed by everyone else. I don't think Kelly really knows what do to with her like she does with Misha. Also Tulisa's apparent in-built bias against non-urban-music-oriented contestants poses a problem for Amelia, so winning a sing off against Misha would be very difficult.
GibsonSG
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by MartynMac123:
“Think it is funny how everyone hated Kelly for it. Amelia comes back, everyone thinks she will win it. Then no, she is in the bottom 2. Funny.”

Amelia made a good point when she said that she hasn't had time to build the support the others have got. I happen to think that the best acts remaining are Pick 'n' Mix, Marcus and Amelia. It's a personal opinion so please don't beat me up as I still have bruises from accidentally mentioning Janet in another thread. A mistake I will not make again. Ooops I just did - damn when will it stop.
cambo1969
21-11-2011
i think its complacency why Amelia didnt get the votes she's the best by a mile and will do well whatever, the person who wins the show dosnt always do the best out of the show
Andybear
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by cambo1969:
“i think its complacency why Amelia didnt get the votes she's the best by a mile and will do well whatever, the person who wins the show dosnt always do the best out of the show”

You think she's the best by a mile but not everyone does. I dislike her singing for the same reason I dislike Misha's singing - I don't like 'shouty' singing.
foxyred
21-11-2011
Originally Posted by Ben simo:
“I really dont see the point in these hate on a 16 year old threads. Lets laugh at the 16 year old, lets all hate on Amelia yayyyyyy, shes a failure everybody laugh with me and pat me on my back (yes). Its the same with Janet not a lover of her, but I dont get the point in people hating on her with vile comments.”

I don't see the point in people making nasty comments about anyone of them to be honest, not just Janet or Amelia. It's just immature
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