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The EU is extremely unpopular in the UK as recent opinion polls have confirmed.
An opinion poll commissioned by the EU found that the EU is far from popular in a number of continental EU nations. Are there many people who are disatisfied with the current state of the EU? Yes, but the EU itself is far from being a project supported solely by the elites. |
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The Late Sir Winston Churchill was referring to a possible union of some kind involving Germany and France - not the UK. Of the UK and the EU Superstate ambition of europhiles he said "We have our own dream and our own task. We are with europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed."
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Terry use your eyes.......... see post 37 !
about missing your posting 37 to this thread .Thank you for your reply and for the link. An interesting article. It is a pity that the UK is not making more cars. It it is good of you to bring this subject up. |
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Blimey. The exact same words could have been spoken by Cameron. Proof, if proof were needed, that nothing much ever changes with our politicians.....
I think that the EU is letting europe down. |
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James Goldsmith , ill and dying of cancer spent the last years of his life warning the British people about the EU and its devilish ways.
He cited Bismark and Prussia using guile and aggression to get the other German states ... like Bavaria... to join in Greater Germany and of course they all lost their independence as a powerful , industrial Germany took shape in the centre of Europe.... with Prussian Berlin as its capital. Murdoch seemed to be against the EU too at one time, but that was probably because they threatened his monopoly on the Premier League ! |
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I just thought I would add that being anti-EU does not mean being anti-europe.
I think that the EU is letting europe down. Currently we have not much of one, and none of the other I think.
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Yes, Britain is an exception....
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DocumentaryFan wrote: According to the latest pan-European Eurobarometer polling data, the majorities of 22 member states (out of 27) feel that EU membership is beneficial.
Of course they do. They are getting OUR money. The UK pays over twice as much into the EU as she gets back from the EU. Thet British people are being forced - through EU membership which we never voted for in a referendum - to subsidise a number of EU nations.The Eurobarometer poll figures over the years have shown that hundreds of millions of people across europe are not pro-EU. Quote:
DocumentaryFan wrote: Are there many people who are dissatisfied with the current state of the EU? Yes...
True...and it is going to become even more unpopular.Quote:
DocumentaryFan wrote: ....the EU itself is far from being a project supported solely by the elites.
I never wrote that the EU was "supported solely by the elites." It is, however, less popular than it ever has been in a number of nations currently in the EU.
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Germany believes in it don't they. Most people agree I think they would have been better off not creating the Euro, but they went ahead with it.
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Here's another interesting poll result from the German Marshall Fund:
"57 percent of European Union citizens felt the economic calamity should lead to a stronger, more integrated EU." |
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Here's another interesting poll result from the German Marshall Fund: "57 percent of European Union citizens felt the economic calamity should lead to a stronger, more integrated EU."
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James Goldsmith , ill and dying of cancer spent the last years of his life warning the British people about the EU and its devilish ways.
He cited Bismark and Prussia using guile and aggression to get the other German states ... like Bavaria... to join in Greater Germany and of course they all lost their independence as a powerful , industrial Germany took shape in the centre of Europe. Murdoch seemed to be against the EU too at one time, but that was probably because they threatened his monopoly on the Premier League ! I think it's time to move on from the Versailles Treaty, Timbo mate
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Of course they do. They are getting OUR money. The UK pays over twice as much into the EU as she gets back from the EU. Thet British people are being forced - through EU membership which we never voted for in a referendum - to subsidise a number of EU nations.
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The view of some is that the German Government was forced into agreeing to abolish the Deutschmark - a great currency - and replacing it with the totally inferior euro in order to get agreement for a united Germany.
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Germany contributes the most money to the EU, by far...
The UK pays in a massive amount of money into the EU and gets LESS THAN HALF OF IT BACK. Through our payments to the EU, we are heavily subsidising the economies of a number of EU nations - including the one you are posting from (Slovenia). DO NOT expect this to continue forever. |
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Which means that about TWO HUNDRED MILLION people in the EU area DO NOT share that view.
I'm not sure what your issue with these poll results seems to be. |
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No, but the majority does want a more integrated EU.
We will see how many of them want a "more integrated EU" when they end up paying for it. WE BRITISH AREN'T GOING TO PAY FOR IT. |
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Germany has a bigger popular nation that the UK.
The UK pays in a massive amount of money into the EU and gets LESS THAN HALF OF IT BACK. Through our payments to the EU, we are heavily subsidising the economies of a number of EU nations - including the one you are posting from (Slovenia). DO NOT expect this to continue forever. Oh eck. It's Talk Show Terry!
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Germany has a bigger popular nation that the UK. The UK pays in a massive amount of money into the EU and gets LESS THAN HALF OF IT BACK.
Through our payments to the EU, we are heavily subsidising the economies of a number of EU nations - including the one you are posting from (Slovenia). 57 percent of European Union citizens felt the economic calamity should lead to a stronger, more integrated EU DO NOT expect this to continue forever. On a per capita basis, even Slovenia (since you bring it up) contributes more. Yes, Slovenia, far from being subsidized by the UK, as you state, contributes more than its fair share to the EU. Source: http://www.martinwestlake.eu/the-eu-...-contributors/ Even in 2004, when Slovenia joined the EU, it received just a few million euros (not a large amount by such standards) more from the EU than it put back in. And of course, Slovenia is helping to bail out Greece. |
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Oh eck. It's Talk Show Terry! |
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France and Italy are about Britain's size yet they also contribute more than the UK.
We don't want to be in the anachronistic EU - the most recent opinion poll here in the UK on the subject shows support for withdrawal from the EU at a record high - and we certainly do not want your useless euro. |
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Here's another interesting poll result from the German Marshall Fund: Strange - I don't remember 100% of EU citizens being asked! "57 percent of European Union citizens felt the economic calamity should lead to a stronger, more integrated EU."
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Strange - I don't remember 100% of EU citizens being asked!
![]() The recent Eurobarometer poll figures show that HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE in the EU do not have a favourable opinion of it. |
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Yes terrible isn't it - putting the British national interest first! It must horrify europhiles to even hear such talk!
But why do you think even the Eurosceptic Tories aren't giving us a referendum? Why did Cameron promise one but then not keep his promise? Is it perhaps because they know very well it would not be in the nation's interest to leave the EU?
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Terry Telly wrote: Yes terrible isn't it - putting the British national interest first! It must horrify europhiles to even hear such talk!
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Certainly does
...The same europhiles who were, a few years, ago trying to get the UK into the disaster that is the euro. |
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Democracy - i.e. adhering to the wishes of the British people - not a good thing from the point of view of europhiles.
The same europhiles who were, a few years, ago trying to get the UK into the disaster that is the euro. |
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about missing your posting 37 to this thread .
I think it's time to move on from the Versailles Treaty, Timbo mate
But why do you think even the Eurosceptic Tories aren't giving us a referendum? Why did Cameron promise one but then not keep his promise? Is it perhaps because they know very well it would not be in the nation's interest to leave the EU?