Yes, Britain is an exception, but the situation is different in most other EU member states. According to the latest pan-European Eurobarometer polling data, the majorities of 22 member states (out of 27) feel that EU membership is beneficial. And despite the austerity measures, even most Greeks want to keep the euro.

Are there many people who are disatisfied with the current state of the EU? Yes, but the EU itself is far from being a project supported solely by the elites.

Blimey. The exact same words could have been spoken by Cameron. Proof, if proof were needed, that nothing much ever changes with our politicians

Sorry about missing your posting 37 to this thread .

Thank you for your reply and for the link.

An interesting article. It is a pity that the UK is not making more cars. It it is good of you to bring this subject up.

I just thought I would add that being anti-EU does not mean being anti-europe.

I think that the EU is letting europe down.

James Goldsmith , ill and dying of cancer spent the last years of his life warning the British people about the EU and its devilish ways.

He cited Bismark and Prussia using guile and aggression to get the other German states ... like Bavaria... to join in Greater Germany and of course they all lost their independence as a powerful , industrial Germany took shape in the centre of Europe.... with Prussian Berlin as its capital.

Murdoch seemed to be against the EU too at one time, but that was probably because they threatened his monopoly on the Premier League !

Germany believes in it don't they. Most people agree I think they would have been better off not creating the Euro, but they went ahead with it. That's the kind of long-term vision and optimism I think we could do with in this country Currently we have not much of one, and none of the other I think.

Not the only exception. The EU is disliked in some other EU nations.


Of course they do. They are getting OUR money. The UK pays over twice as much into the EU as she gets back from the EU. Thet British people are being forced - through EU membership which we never voted for in a referendum - to subsidise a number of EU nations.

The Eurobarometer poll figures over the years have shown that hundreds of millions of people across europe are not pro-EU.


True...and it is going to become even more unpopular.


I never wrote that the EU was "supported solely by the elites." It is, however, less popular than it ever has been in a number of nations currently in the EU.

The view of some is that the German Government was forced into agreeing to abolish the Deutschmark - a great currency - and replacing it with the totally inferior euro in order to get agreement for a united Germany.

Here's another interesting poll result from the German Marshall Fund:

"57 percent of European Union citizens felt the economic calamity should lead to a stronger, more integrated EU."

Which means that about TWO HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE in the EU area DO NOT share that view.

Bismark and Prussia? I think it's time to move on from the Versailles Treaty, Timbo mate

Germany contributes the most money to the EU, by far, yet this is less of a probelm in their case. Perhaps their location in the middle of Europe makes the many benefits of the EU more readily apparent?

Really? Who would have been daft enough to think they could possibly have kept the two Germanies apart from each other? Germans always believed in European union, precisely because of their past I think. And they've made and continue to make economic sacrifices for their vision, I think we would agree?

Germany has a bigger popular nation that the UK.

The UK pays in a massive amount of money into the EU and gets LESS THAN HALF OF IT BACK.

Through our payments to the EU, we are heavily subsidising the economies of a number of EU nations - including the one you are posting from (Slovenia).

DO NOT expect this to continue forever.

No, but the majority does want a more integrated EU. The minority -- 43% -- is presumably split between those who want the EU to stay as it is and those who want to reduce its powers.

I'm not sure what your issue with these poll results seems to be.

According to one opinion poll.

We will see how many of them want a "more integrated EU" when they end up paying for it. WE BRITISH AREN'T GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

Oh eck. It's Talk Show Terry!

France and Italy are about Britain's size yet they also contribute more than the UK.

On a per capita basis, even Slovenia (since you bring it up) contributes more.

Yes, Slovenia, far from being subsidized by the UK, as you state, contributes more than its fair share to the EU.

Source: http://www.martinwestlake.eu/the-eu-...-contributors/

Even in 2004, when Slovenia joined the EU, it received just a few million euros (not a large amount by such standards) more from the EU than it put back in.

And of course, Slovenia is helping to bail out Greece.

Yes terrible isn't it - putting the British national interest first! It must horrify europhiles to even hear such talk!

FACT: The UK - since being forced into the EEC (now EU) - has paid over twice as much into the EEC/EU that she has got out of it.

We don't want to be in the anachronistic EU - the most recent opinion poll here in the UK on the subject shows support for withdrawal from the EU at a record high - and we certainly do not want your useless euro.

Strange - I don't remember 100% of EU citizens being asked!

Exactly. I do not, for one moment, believe that the EU has majority support in a number of EU nations.

The recent Eurobarometer poll figures show that HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE in the EU do not have a favourable opinion of it.

Certainly does But why do you think even the Eurosceptic Tories aren't giving us a referendum? Why did Cameron promise one but then not keep his promise? Is it perhaps because they know very well it would not be in the nation's interest to leave the EU?

Democracy - i.e. adhering to the wishes of the British people - not a good thing from the point of view of europhiles.

The same europhiles who were, a few years, ago trying to get the UK into the disaster that is the euro.

Many were but few are now. But why didn't Cameron give you the referendum? Is he just saving it for any future new treaty or is it a referendum, whenever it comes, that any UK government just can't afford to lose? Governments seem to encourage euroscepticism for their own reasons but then have to use smoke and mirrors to avoid giving the sceptics government has created the referendum they're demanding. It's unedifying behaviour and quite mystifying to the rest of Europe.