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Old 24-11-2011, 22:47
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oh sorry, didn't realise, I wont mention any spoilers. I hope you get to see it. PM me when you do.

and for the rest of the thread, what is this Text Santa show? I am pretty sure Santa does not want ITV viewers texting him on Christmas Eve night, given that he will be very busy giving out presenters elsewhere in the world.
lol i kind of know what happens. I will say tomorrow will.b the same as its got the same cast as tonight and is written by Simon Ashdown again. will send u PM once i have done
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Old 24-11-2011, 22:52
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Tomorrow's Telegraph features Bruce and Tess on it's front page with the headline: "Why Strictly beats X Factor"

Sir Bruce says that The X Factor is losing viewers because of the 'scripted rows' between the judges.
There was an identical double page piece in the Mirror on Saturday.

(Please note it wasn't my copy. I was reading it in a pub)
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Old 24-11-2011, 22:59
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I think the only paper left that hasn't switched allegiance to Strictly is The Sun.
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Old 24-11-2011, 23:17
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I think the only paper left that hasn't switched allegiance to Strictly is The Sun.
I suspect The Sun will still be supporting TXF when it's genuinely dying, as they seem very loyal to Cowell's shows in general (although I suspect even they admitted Red or Black was crap). It's worth remembering that despite TXF losing viewers it's still #1, so it's no real surprise that The Sun are still backing it. Equally it's no surprise that The Mirror aren't as they have never been as 'in' with the Cowell shows as The Sun (they never seem to get the exclusives for example). The Mail just backs whoever suits them at the time of writing the article (so generally nobody as they're usually slagging something off!). Whilst the broadsheets are naturally much less involved them backing Strictly over TXF probably makes sense for them in terms of the positions of the two shows this year.

I suspect The Star might still be backing TXF, but I can't say I take any notice of anything The Star does or says, and I'd question whether it counts as a 'newspaper' anyway.

We're certainly in interesting times though, with TXF experiencing something of a fall from grace, and I'm already looking forward to seeing what will happen with the two shows next year. Will TXF continue to fall or will it rebound? Will Strictly continue to perform as well as this year, decline or even rise? It'll be interesting. I suspect ITV might look to BGT to restore a bit of goodwill towards the Cowell shows as an overall brand to help TXF when it returns. BGT is actually looking healthier than TXF just now (despite the lower series average), which I certainly wasn't expecting to be the case at the end of last year!
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Old 24-11-2011, 23:40
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Any idea of the Saturday night line-ups from January ? Something like this ?

BBC One : Total Wipeout, The Magicians, Who Dares Wins / In It to Win It

ITV1 : Primeval, TV Burp, Take Me Out, The Exit List ?
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Old 25-11-2011, 00:51
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But if they weren't able to charge full rates on Thanksgivings Eve why would they do it? They could argue no competition + all new originals = pretty decent ratings (even with deductions).
As noted previously I have no idea. This is just one of the many examples of nonsensical scheduling that we see every year from ABC that defies any and all logic. Like airing originals against The Grammy Awards despite the obvious audience crossover or the complete lack of any logical pattern to switching between repeats and originals.

I'm not saying that I would do it, especially with a very serialised programme like Revenge, which is best suited to being week after week. The only reason X Factor was on last night was because it needs to get rid of people (2 this week, 2 next week).
That they aired Revenge last night is mind boggling to me. They should really be going out of their way to protect that show and giving it every chance to at least maintain its audience not airing it on the eve of a national holiday that always depresses viewing figures. The comedies are more forgivable since the audience can just dip in and out of them with ease.
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Old 25-11-2011, 01:00
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oh sorry, didn't realise, I wont mention any spoilers. I hope you get to see it. PM me when you do.

and for the rest of the thread, what is this Text Santa show? I am pretty sure Santa does not want ITV viewers texting him on Christmas Eve night, given that he will be very busy giving out presenters elsewhere in the world.
Best episode of EastEnders for sometime.(I've sent you PM btw)
Tonights(Friday) is going to be the same i think

Sadly there was a clash but we could be in for a good BBC3 Repeat and Sunday Omnibus rating.
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Old 25-11-2011, 01:09
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We're certainly in interesting times though, with TXF experiencing something of a fall from grace, and I'm already looking forward to seeing what will happen with the two shows next year. Will TXF continue to fall or will it rebound? Will Strictly continue to perform as well as this year, decline or even rise? It'll be interesting. I suspect ITV might look to BGT to restore a bit of goodwill towards the Cowell shows as an overall brand to help TXF when it returns. BGT is actually looking healthier than TXF just now (despite the lower series average), which I certainly wasn't expecting to be the case at the end of last year!
I wonder how Britain's Got Talent would have looked without Simon Cowell boosting the final week? Saying that, I think it only needs minor adjustments to the panel before the new series. The X Factor needs to bring the fun back; Kelly and especially Gary have just made it too serious.
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Old 25-11-2011, 02:00
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There was an identical double page piece in the Mirror on Saturday.

(Please note it wasn't my copy. I was reading it in a pub)
Of course you were.
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Old 25-11-2011, 06:42
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and for the rest of the thread, what is this Text Santa show? I am pretty sure Santa does not want ITV viewers texting him on Christmas Eve night, given that he will be very busy giving out presenters elsewhere in the world.
Does the Daybreak set have a fireplace?

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Old 25-11-2011, 07:39
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There was an identical double page piece in the Mirror on Saturday.

(Please note it wasn't my copy. I was reading it in a pub)
Would that be the same Daily Mirror that recently ran a two-page spread on Downton and complimented the BBC on producing it ? Must have made Danny Cohen's day
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:12
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The Manor Reborn 3.9m (15.1%)

Living with the Amish 1.8m (7%) and 444,700 (2.4%) on C4+1

I'm A Celeb 8.3m
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:19
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Surprised To The Manor Reborn was so low. I thought it would have caught out a few more oldies than that. That nice Penelope Keith, Paul Martin (who could pass as DeVere's son), country house.
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:20
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The Manor Reborn 3.9m (15.1%)

Living with the Amish 1.8m (7%) and 444,700 (2.4%) on C4+1

I'm A Celeb 8.3m
Not exactly soaring in the ratings as it comes to a climax? That.probably includes the repeat too, so I'll wager it was in the high 7s only against a poor effort for BBC1 and soap hour lead in.
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:22
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Not exactly soaring in the ratings as it comes to a climax? That.probably includes the repeat too, so I'll wager it was in the high 7s only against a poor effort for BBC1 and soap hour lead in.
eh? havent a clue what you are on about?
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:22
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Surprised To The Manor Reborn was so low. I thought it would have caught out a few more oldies than that. That nice Penelope Keith, Paul Martin (who could pass as DeVere's son), country house.
You need a slick ad campaign, wall to wall Daily Mail, and a 14m lead in if you want your country house to do really well...
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:23
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eh? havent a clue what you are on about?
I assume he means high 7's not including +1?
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:23
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*sits waiting for EE ratings*
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:26
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The Royal Bodyguard now is the main picture on the "BBC Christmas Highlights" article, before it was Doctor Who. Is this a sign that this is going to get a prime time slot on Christmas Day?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediapacks/christmas/
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:27
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I assume he means high 7's not including +1?
who knows? I think he believes IACGMOOH finishes this weekend - its next weekend isnt it?
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:28
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who knows? I think he believes IACGMOOH finishes this weekend - its next weekend isnt it?
You're right, sorry missed the end part
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:40
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Tomorrow's Telegraph features Bruce and Tess on it's front page with the headline: "Why Strictly beats X Factor"

Sir Bruce says that The X Factor is losing viewers because of the 'scripted rows' between the judges.
Its just another indication that Britain is a celeb obsessed society and that c or d listers like Roland Grant are a bigger draw than unknown contestants.

Brucie is rather sad that at 84 he still gives a flying duck about ratings. Does anybody buy these constant newspaper placements by SCD that they dont court publicity and spin?

I expect we will see more of it in the weekend press - probably a Brucie exclusive telling us how he doesnt do press interviews or some such nonsense
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:44
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who knows? I think he believes IACGMOOH finishes this weekend - its next weekend isnt it?
I did, yes. There's another week of it?

No doubt it will build all next week then.....
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:46
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Not exactly soaring in the ratings as it comes to a climax? That.probably includes the repeat too, so I'll wager it was in the high 7s only against a poor effort for BBC1 and soap hour lead in.
That 8.3m for I'm A Celeb is just on ITV1. 395,000 watched it on ITV+1
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Old 25-11-2011, 10:46
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who knows? I think he believes IACGMOOH finishes this weekend - its next weekend isnt it?
Last night was the first eviction so the competition hots up whilst the ratings cool down.

I too expected IAC to do better than 8.3m even if that doesn't include +1.
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