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The Ratings Thread (Part 28)
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Interesting to see the Life's Too Short is holding its audience and is number one for the third week running in the consolidated ratings.
That's for the few discerning BBC HD viewers though.
On the main channel it's dropped from 2nd to 28th to oblivion!!
The excellent Rev, only made the BBC2 top thirty once, but it's back in BBC HD's top ten last week after a poor second episode performance.
That's for the few discerning BBC HD viewers though.
On the main channel it's dropped from 2nd to 28th to oblivion!!
The excellent Rev, only made the BBC2 top thirty once, but it's back in BBC HD's top ten last week after a poor second episode performance.
Channel 4 had a very mixed night. We'll see how Million Pound Drop does across the week as I expect it will rise. That's certainly a low start though and I do wonder if there's been too many runs this year. The Great British Property Scandal meanwhile did well, and Come Date With Me looks like it could be a very decent rating spinoff.
Series high rating for The Gadget Show. Unbelievable how much that show is flip-flopping at the moment but I did expect the Christmas special to clear 1m. Good to see Charley Boorman recover a bit from last week's low premiere too, obviously dented by IAC.
Channel 5+1 is now live on Freeview 44. (retune may be required depending on equipment)
Series high rating for The Gadget Show. Unbelievable how much that show is flip-flopping at the moment but I did expect the Christmas special to clear 1m. Good to see Charley Boorman recover a bit from last week's low premiere too, obviously dented by IAC.
Channel 5+1 is now live on Freeview 44. (retune may be required depending on equipment)
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Why would it? It gets four million on a normal Saturday, and while some of the audience will be out it should still do OK, it'll have Man U in it for a start. And it'll be over in good time for the hoopla at midnight.
I don't think they'll bother with Norton on New Year's Eve if they end up sticking it on at nine o'clock, they've only done it twice anyway so it's no great tradition. I'm assuming The Football League Show will go for a burton on New Year's Eve.”
“Why would it? It gets four million on a normal Saturday, and while some of the audience will be out it should still do OK, it'll have Man U in it for a start. And it'll be over in good time for the hoopla at midnight.
I don't think they'll bother with Norton on New Year's Eve if they end up sticking it on at nine o'clock, they've only done it twice anyway so it's no great tradition. I'm assuming The Football League Show will go for a burton on New Year's Eve.”
It's gone for a burton on Boxing Day, despite being one of the key dates in the football calendar. I wonder if the contract only permits Saturday night highlights?
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“4.6m for last night's Panorama on supermarket prices.”
“4.6m for last night's Panorama on supermarket prices.”
When was it last that high for a regular 8.30 episode?
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Interesting set of ratings there. The standout rating for me has to be Emmerdale-that's a fantastic start to Judgement Week and will hopefully be the week that turns Emmerdale around and at least attempts to save the dire 2011 it has had. Only 0.4m behind EE”
“Interesting set of ratings there. The standout rating for me has to be Emmerdale-that's a fantastic start to Judgement Week and will hopefully be the week that turns Emmerdale around and at least attempts to save the dire 2011 it has had. Only 0.4m behind EE”
NO IT EFFING WASN'T!
You are including the Em repeat but not the EE one!
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Interesting set of ratings there. The standout rating for me has to be Emmerdale-that's a fantastic start to Judgement Week and will hopefully be the week that turns Emmerdale around and at least attempts to save the dire 2011 it has had. Only 0.4m behind EE and beating the 2nd Corrie is fantastic.
It also always surprises me at how well the Coming Out show does. Whenever I watch it, it feels very ITV2 as there's just so much padding, but as long as it continues to perform excellently for ITV1 I don't see why it shouldn't air there when they have not much else to show in the build up to Christmas.
Very strong for Panorama which obviously dented the 2nd Corrie. Poor start for MPD though & its success didn't seem to last long.
Nice boost for The Gadget Show and good for Charley Boorman to make that magic 1m mark”
“Interesting set of ratings there. The standout rating for me has to be Emmerdale-that's a fantastic start to Judgement Week and will hopefully be the week that turns Emmerdale around and at least attempts to save the dire 2011 it has had. Only 0.4m behind EE and beating the 2nd Corrie is fantastic.
It also always surprises me at how well the Coming Out show does. Whenever I watch it, it feels very ITV2 as there's just so much padding, but as long as it continues to perform excellently for ITV1 I don't see why it shouldn't air there when they have not much else to show in the build up to Christmas.
Very strong for Panorama which obviously dented the 2nd Corrie. Poor start for MPD though & its success didn't seem to last long.
Nice boost for The Gadget Show and good for Charley Boorman to make that magic 1m mark”
Two standout ratings for me. Emmerdale getting 8m at 7pm & Panorama getting nearly 5m against Corrie.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“NO IT EFFING WASN'T!
You are including the Em repeat but not the EE one!”
“NO IT EFFING WASN'T!
You are including the Em repeat but not the EE one!”
I'm sorry but who watches an ep of Emmerdale then immediately watches it again on +1, the same could be said of Xfactor and any reality show, watching these things once it bad enough who would put themselves through the ordeal of watching them twice in the space of an hour.
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“I'm sorry but who watches an ep of Emmerdale then immediately watches it again on +1, the same could be said of Xfactor and any reality show, watching these things once it bad enough who would put themselves through the ordeal of watching them twice in the space of an hour.”
“I'm sorry but who watches an ep of Emmerdale then immediately watches it again on +1, the same could be said of Xfactor and any reality show, watching these things once it bad enough who would put themselves through the ordeal of watching them twice in the space of an hour.”
You are missing the point. He compared two showings of Em to only one showing of EE. If you are going to compare, do it like for like including the EE catch up showing once those figures come out.
Emmerdale did look good in the previews. Everyone loves a good 'whodunit' storyline.
Compared to EE which seems a bit limp at the moment it performed very well indeed yesterday.
Compared to EE which seems a bit limp at the moment it performed very well indeed yesterday.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“You are missing the point. He compared two showings of Em to only one showing of EE. If you are going to compare, do it like for like including the EE catch up showing once those figures come out.”
“You are missing the point. He compared two showings of Em to only one showing of EE. If you are going to compare, do it like for like including the EE catch up showing once those figures come out.”
Exactly, let's hope EE on BBC3 rated 600,000+ to give EE the rating of the night.
(Good Emmerdale rating nonetheless.)
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“You are missing the point. He compared two showings of Em to only one showing of EE. If you are going to compare, do it like for like including the EE catch up showing once those figures come out.”
“You are missing the point. He compared two showings of Em to only one showing of EE. If you are going to compare, do it like for like including the EE catch up showing once those figures come out.”
So what? do you think every single person of the maybe 200-300k (if that much) who watched on +1 all watched it twice, if you included the repeat of EE on BBC3 wouldn't you have to show the late showing off Emmerdale on ITV2 and the showing at 6.50 this morming and the early afternoon showing.
I must say as well I have certain problems with the ratings in general. There are what 4000 Barb boxes? how is that really representing a snapshot of what people are watching when there are 60 odd million people in this country who all live in far more than 4000 towns, villages and cities and contain countless gender and ethnic groups of all kinds.
Are there any Barb boxes in University hall of residence common rooms for instance, maybe the reason more old people seem to watch than young is all the young people in university aren't being counted at all.
Of course everything I have just wrote could be total rubbish but its just a thought.
If anybody is still talking to me after the above post who would like the Daybreak rating for the last week borrowed (stolen) from Gallifrey base.
28 Nov 831k AI 72
29 Nov 784k AI 65(!)
30 Nov 672k AI 68
1 Dec 773k AI 68
2 Dec 785k AI 67
5 Dec 818k
Note the fact that yesterdays emotional (yeah right) ep was lower than last monday. Also where are these rising rating I keep hearing about from ITV.
28 Nov 831k AI 72
29 Nov 784k AI 65(!)
30 Nov 672k AI 68
1 Dec 773k AI 68
2 Dec 785k AI 67
5 Dec 818k
Note the fact that yesterdays emotional (yeah right) ep was lower than last monday. Also where are these rising rating I keep hearing about from ITV.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“NO IT EFFING WASN'T!
You are including the Em repeat but not the EE one!”
“NO IT EFFING WASN'T!
You are including the Em repeat but not the EE one!”
Even excluding +1, Emmerdale got 8.1m and was just 0.5m behind EastEnders. Whatever way you look at it, EastEnders should be more than just half a million ahead of Emmerdale on a Monday night, especially in its usually-high rated period of December. A sub-35% share for EastEnders against the usual mediocre factual opposition is poor and it is quite worrying for EE that it hasn't managed a 9m overnight at all so far this Autumn. [Corrie's 8.30pm rating was poor too but at least it's quite evident the Panorama episode pulled away a chunk of its viewers]. People predicting last week an 11m-13m overnight for EE's Christmas Day episode are being way too optimistic. The way things are going, even against weak competition EE would've struggled to get that, against DA it's pretty much got no chance.
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Did MPD finish at 11.30? That is far too late in my eyes. C4 usually end programmes 7 - 10 mins earlier than billed (how that can be allowed i don't know), did they do that last night?”
“Did MPD finish at 11.30? That is far too late in my eyes. C4 usually end programmes 7 - 10 mins earlier than billed (how that can be allowed i don't know), did they do that last night?”
It finished just after 11.20pm with a plug for The Bank Job - and they thought George Lamb would hold people until after the break.
Why they've gone for 90 minutes on weeknights at 10pm I don't know - and it really dragged last night. They only got through 10 questions - they used to manage that in an hour long show.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“MOTD on New Year's Eve seems odd, I know it is Saturday night but it seems odd. It might just send viewers to Jools and hence reduce the audience for New Year Live.”
“MOTD on New Year's Eve seems odd, I know it is Saturday night but it seems odd. It might just send viewers to Jools and hence reduce the audience for New Year Live.”
I thought they usually played the full football fixtures on New Years Day.
Soap ratings are incredibly volatile depending on the story line/channel opposition. For a show like Emmerdale with little opposition last night (The One Show/C4 News/C5 News/Big Bread Experiment) it was the ideal chance for some casual viewers to tune in for a decent episode. Emmerdale seems to have a core audience of around 6.5m, whereas EE & CS are somewhat higher and very rarely is Emmerdale getting more viewers than the big two.
EE rating would be higher if the Massood family plot moved a little quicker - there is not much attraction for casual viewers to watch every episode right now.
EE rating would be higher if the Massood family plot moved a little quicker - there is not much attraction for casual viewers to watch every episode right now.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Harry Hill set to spark channel war after split with agent and TV Burp boss
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/20...#ixzz1fi9tXZfQ”
“Harry Hill set to spark channel war after split with agent and TV Burp boss
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/20...#ixzz1fi9tXZfQ”
"The ITV1 Bafta-winning show is famous for Harry’s catchphrase “what are the chances of that happening?”"
What?
Originally Posted by gottago:
“"The ITV1 Bafta-winning show is famous for Harry’s catchphrase “what are the chances of that happening?”"
What?”
“"The ITV1 Bafta-winning show is famous for Harry’s catchphrase “what are the chances of that happening?”"
What?
”
He is past his best. Let him go to BBC1 on a big money deal
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“So what? do you think every single person of the maybe 200-300k (if that much) who watched on +1 all watched it twice, if you included the repeat of EE on BBC3 wouldn't you have to show the late showing off Emmerdale on ITV2 and the showing at 6.50 this morming and the early afternoon showing”
“So what? do you think every single person of the maybe 200-300k (if that much) who watched on +1 all watched it twice, if you included the repeat of EE on BBC3 wouldn't you have to show the late showing off Emmerdale on ITV2 and the showing at 6.50 this morming and the early afternoon showing”
There's a far easier way - just compare the unaugmented 7pm ITV1 showing to the 8pm BBC1 showing.
Apples with apples...
As rzt points out, only 100k watched +1. OK, so it's just 0.5m shy then. We didn't know that an hour ago though.
As for your query about the science of ratings, you make a fair point. But sampling in this way has a proven record - take opinion polls for elections. Although pollsters vary in their methodology, the most accurate pollster pretty much got the voting shares at the last General Election bang on, likewise with the AV referendum result in May, and also the BBC/ITV/Sky Exit Poll on Election Night managed to sample (I think) 10,000 voters in selected wards across the UK and predicted fairly accurately the number of seats (not just the vote share) that each party would end up with 18 hours later when all were declared.
So this proves that, done right, public opinion sampling can be pretty damned near 100% accurate.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Even excluding +1, Emmerdale got 8.1m and was just 0.5m behind EastEnders. Whatever way you look at it, EastEnders should be more than just half a million ahead of Emmerdale on a Monday night, especially in its usually-high rated period of December. A sub-35% share for EastEnders against the usual mediocre factual opposition is poor and it is quite worrying for EE that it hasn't managed a 9m overnight at all so far this Autumn. [Corrie's 8.30pm rating was poor too but at least it's quite evident the Panorama episode pulled away a chunk of its viewers]. People predicting last week an 11m-13m overnight for EE's Christmas Day episode are being way too optimistic. The way things are going, even against weak competition EE would've struggled to get that, against DA it's pretty much got no chance.”
“Even excluding +1, Emmerdale got 8.1m and was just 0.5m behind EastEnders. Whatever way you look at it, EastEnders should be more than just half a million ahead of Emmerdale on a Monday night, especially in its usually-high rated period of December. A sub-35% share for EastEnders against the usual mediocre factual opposition is poor and it is quite worrying for EE that it hasn't managed a 9m overnight at all so far this Autumn. [Corrie's 8.30pm rating was poor too but at least it's quite evident the Panorama episode pulled away a chunk of its viewers]. People predicting last week an 11m-13m overnight for EE's Christmas Day episode are being way too optimistic. The way things are going, even against weak competition EE would've struggled to get that, against DA it's pretty much got no chance.”
I broadly agree. Funnily enough, at the very start of this thread 5 long years ago, I raised concerns about EE's lacklustre pre-Christmas performance.....
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I'm amazed at how poor EastEnders' ratings have been in recent weeks. So much so that I can't see it getting the no1 slot on Christmas Day - which could undermine Dibley's prospects too.”
“I'm amazed at how poor EastEnders' ratings have been in recent weeks. So much so that I can't see it getting the no1 slot on Christmas Day - which could undermine Dibley's prospects too.”
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“You'd think so - but it has been getting appalling ratings lately, rarely hitting 10m now.
Could 2006 mark the point when EE actually started to harm BBC1's ratings over an evening, rather than locking viewers in? - I would think many homes will have "given Doc Martin half an hour" tonight - we'll see tomorrow...”
“You'd think so - but it has been getting appalling ratings lately, rarely hitting 10m now.
Could 2006 mark the point when EE actually started to harm BBC1's ratings over an evening, rather than locking viewers in? - I would think many homes will have "given Doc Martin half an hour" tonight - we'll see tomorrow...”
But those concerns proved unfounded, as the Xmas Day overnights proved...
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“1 …. 11.4 (46.6%) …. The Vicar of Dibley (21:30) BBC1
2 …. 10.7 (44.0%) …. EastEnders (21:00) BBC1
3 …. 9.6 (39.8%) …. Coronation Street (20:00) ITV
.....
12 …. 5.3 (22.2%) …. Doc Martin (21:00) ITV”
“1 …. 11.4 (46.6%) …. The Vicar of Dibley (21:30) BBC1
2 …. 10.7 (44.0%) …. EastEnders (21:00) BBC1
3 …. 9.6 (39.8%) …. Coronation Street (20:00) ITV
.....
12 …. 5.3 (22.2%) …. Doc Martin (21:00) ITV”
Doc Martin being the 9-10m drama powerhouse that ITV pitched up opposite EE and Dibley, in a feature length episode, as their "exocet" for that years ratings battle.
Hm...
Originally Posted by GagaJack:
“Does anybody know how many viewers "American Horror Story" gets on FX? Thank you.”
“Does anybody know how many viewers "American Horror Story" gets on FX? Thank you.”
It's struggling in the overnights. Monday 28th November's episode hit a series low with just 63,500 (0.35%), half the number that sampled the premiere three weeks prior.
The officials bring better news but still demonstrate a downward trend:
Mon 7/11- 400k (#2 most watched on FX)
Mon 14/11- n/a
Mon 21/11- 291k (#2 most watched on FX)
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“ But those concerns proved unfounded, as the Xmas Day overnights proved...
Doc Martin being the 9-10m drama powerhouse that ITV pitched up opposite EE and Dibley, in a feature length episode, as their "exocet" for that years ratings battle.
Hm...”
“ But those concerns proved unfounded, as the Xmas Day overnights proved...
Doc Martin being the 9-10m drama powerhouse that ITV pitched up opposite EE and Dibley, in a feature length episode, as their "exocet" for that years ratings battle.
Hm...
”
Good, complacency. I like it!
If you think the two are equivalent...... thats fine.
BTW I'm looking forward to next weeks Panorama on how the toothpaste tube is always squeezed from the middle, seeing that they are tackling really hard hitting topics these days.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“There's a far easier way - just compare the unaugmented 7pm ITV1 showing to the 8pm BBC1 showing.
Apples with apples...
As rzt points out, only 100k watched +1. OK, so it's just 0.5m shy then. We didn't know that an hour ago though.
As for your query about the science of ratings, you make a fair point. But sampling in this way has a proven record - take opinion polls for elections. Although pollsters vary in their methodology, the most accurate pollster pretty much got the voting shares at the last General Election bang on, likewise with the AV referendum result in May, and also the BBC/ITV/Sky Exit Poll on Election Night managed to sample (I think) 10,000 voters in selected wards across the UK and predicted fairly accurately the number of seats (not just the vote share) that each party would end up with 18 hours later when all were declared.
So this proves that, done right, public opinion sampling can be pretty damned near 100% accurate. Hm...”
“There's a far easier way - just compare the unaugmented 7pm ITV1 showing to the 8pm BBC1 showing.
Apples with apples...
As rzt points out, only 100k watched +1. OK, so it's just 0.5m shy then. We didn't know that an hour ago though.
As for your query about the science of ratings, you make a fair point. But sampling in this way has a proven record - take opinion polls for elections. Although pollsters vary in their methodology, the most accurate pollster pretty much got the voting shares at the last General Election bang on, likewise with the AV referendum result in May, and also the BBC/ITV/Sky Exit Poll on Election Night managed to sample (I think) 10,000 voters in selected wards across the UK and predicted fairly accurately the number of seats (not just the vote share) that each party would end up with 18 hours later when all were declared.
So this proves that, done right, public opinion sampling can be pretty damned near 100% accurate. Hm...
”
When it comes to elections and opinion polls where only really 3 parties to choose from while for TV ratings there are hundreds of channels to choose from and much more complicated. Of course I suspect for the most part the ratings are entirely correct but I would think sometimes might be hopelessly wrong, it would only take a rogue sample to confuse things. Lets say if 10 people on barb who normally watch something decide they don't like a certain programme anymore and don't watch it, it doesn't mean the whole viewing audience of hundreds of thousands they used to represent don't like it anymore just those 10, I expect that sort of thing goes on all the time.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Good, complacency. I like it!”
“Good, complacency. I like it!
”
I take it you're planning to celebrate Christmas at Christmas for once this year then, George - rather than at the end of May or on 10th December?
It will make a nice change to welcome a festive GeorgeS on here on Boxing Day rather than the usual bitter and twisted one who turns up and moans about how dull and irrelevant the Christmas Day ratings are.
Unless - heaven forbid! - Downton doesn't actually get 12m viewers and top the Xmas Day ratings....
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I take it you're planning to celebrate Christmas at Christmas for once this year then, George - rather than at the end of May or on 10th December?
It will make a nice change to welcome a festive GeorgeS on here on Boxing Day rather than the usual bitter and twisted one who turns up and moans about how dull and irrelevant the Christmas Day ratings are.
Unless - heaven forbid! - Downton doesn't actually get 12m viewers and top the Xmas Day ratings....”
“I take it you're planning to celebrate Christmas at Christmas for once this year then, George - rather than at the end of May or on 10th December?
It will make a nice change to welcome a festive GeorgeS on here on Boxing Day rather than the usual bitter and twisted one who turns up and moans about how dull and irrelevant the Christmas Day ratings are.
Unless - heaven forbid! - Downton doesn't actually get 12m viewers and top the Xmas Day ratings....
”
Ah listen to Mr Scrooge who spends most of his year thinking of ways to dent everyone elses rating truimphs
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's struggling in the overnights. Monday 28th November's episode hit a series low with just 63,500 (0.35%), half the number that sampled the premiere three weeks prior.
The officials bring better news but still demonstrate a downward trend:
Mon 7/11- 400k (#2 most watched on FX)
Mon 14/11- n/a
Mon 21/11- 291k (#2 most watched on FX)”
“It's struggling in the overnights. Monday 28th November's episode hit a series low with just 63,500 (0.35%), half the number that sampled the premiere three weeks prior.
The officials bring better news but still demonstrate a downward trend:
Mon 7/11- 400k (#2 most watched on FX)
Mon 14/11- n/a
Mon 21/11- 291k (#2 most watched on FX)”
Thank you, it's a great show so it's sad to see it ain't doing that well.
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