She was no real friend to any other female. Nasty one. She even tried to befriend Jem when she could see the upset and friction between Faye, Jem and Aaron.

EDIT: Remember her trying to coax Jem to stay, when she said she was walking, that convo was very revealing

Yep agree with all this. I can't believe that Louise was one of my favourite housemates during the first week , I think her halo began to slip during winegate and I began to see a different person.

Just pm'd back

It was funny that when they were doing the snowbound task Jem was saying there was one housemate that she was unsure of and at the time it was Louise and she felt Louise was giving her shifty looks - interesting!!! As you say I think Lou sided with Jem once she could see that Jem wasn't happy about Faye and Aaron's relationship.

Louise was very shady. She had eliminated every pretty girl (except Faye) in her eyes, and that over the top exhillaration when she survived against Faye She thought she was the next Sophie Reade or Josie

All the above is One of the reasons I felt for Faye! She genuinely believed people like Jay and Lou were her friends and looking out for her! I think she was probably far more shocked At learning of Jay and Lou's indifference and sometimes dislike of her than anything they could have shown her of Aaron! I'd imagine that as Aaron was truthful with her, even if he did go to the DR first it is a far less betrayal than Jay and Lou who were wolves in Sheep's clothing where Faye was concerned! Must've been a shock to learn you were just used as leverage against the perceived strongest contender!

Really when it came down to it most of the people Faye considered really close friends nommed her at some point: Harry, Louise, Jay, Alex, Anton. I struggle to think of anything Faye did to warrant a nomination from any of these!

At the end of the show she probably expected to stay friends with most of them but probably can only count Aaron, Mark and Maisy as true friends now the dust has settled!

Re: the moms thing I agree about Aaron being a thinker! He often arsed it up when put on the spot by Faye or if he wad upset! Remember frostie gate when he accused her of playing a game lol! Totally understand why Faye was upset but I agree Aaron didn't think Louise had the brains or guts to go through with it and he underestimated her! He was panicked and came up with a quick excuse! I'll never understand for the life of me why he didn't just stick to I messed it up!

Whenever she had convos with Faye about their respective relationships Faye was always interested about what Lou had to say about Jay but when Faye spoke about Aaron Lou showed no spark of interest at all.

But she's not shady

But, he didn't mess up, it was deliberate? They all knew what Aaron did was just to end the charade and BB was never going to allow the 6 up. Louise messed up and they all know it. Aaron just took the brunt of the blame because they all knew, deep down, he was their threat!

Very good post. I think she'll remain friends with Tom as well.

Yeah, he also didn't non her and did seem to really like her! Thing is Aaron was under no illusions about who were his real friends. Faye really did think they were all best buds at the end, bless her!

Just copied this from Aaron and Faye appreciation thread!!


Some nice tweets from the Green Room though.

green_room_hairAngie Capaldi


@AaronBBSupport yes definately...genuine and just lovely both of them. Completely besotted with each too!!! I hope they come back xx


green_room_hairAngie Capaldi


@rdotsidney @AaronBBSupport ahh thanks, I think I may have fallen a little bit in love with them both!! As did all my staff! xx

Oh I know but initially they did think he messed it up, until he told Tom and Alex and later Faye that ut was deliberate! I think if he'd have stuck to messing it up people would have had to get over it a lot quicker and Jay wouldn't have been able to beat him with the you got Faye evicted stick right up to the final!

I see what you are saying, but I never understood, even from the HL's, how anyone could think Aaron put Faye up. When Jay first spoke to Lou, even Jay said 'but you cuda put 5 uf us up Loo'. She then just blamed Aaron, and they all toed the partyline.

I totally agree with you! Faye never fell for it though! She actually said to him she was fine with him as they're his moms and his choice but she just felt disappointed as she thought they were working as a team! Aaron then told her that Lou could have done 5 but chose her and Faye didn't say anything! If Aaron left it there all would have been fine with them, it was the Alex comment that caused Faye to blow up, she even said "I don't care about the nominations thing " she also said in her new and BOTS interview that she blamed Louise! So she was never buying what Lou and Jay were selling. They probably just went along with it because they didn't dare argue with Jay once he'd decided Lou was innocent!

Oh yes, agreed. Aaron was awkward with the Alex situation, as way of an explanation. I think he was trying to explain putting 5 of them up, knowing that they all would be, except perhaps for Alex, and his reasoning was a little off compass, so to speak. He was on the spot and dealt with it badly.

I'm still slowly working my way through a rewatch, plus the Aaron/Faye clips posted in their AT by chris_sw, and am surprised this time at how much more I've noticed Aaron being "ganged up on" by Jay et al.

It was definitely obvious during Kissgate, when Aaron didn't do that much wrong, but by not being around for all the fallout and excited conversations, he was made out to be some sort of sexually aggressive monster.

I think the combination of Aaron's tendency to avoid confrontation, Jay's predilection for inflaming the others against him, and Aaron's strong dislike for the Wolfpack led to a lot of the anti-Aaron sentiment in the house, which was then fed by the Channel 5 machine for whatever reasons you want to attribute to them.

So by the time Halloweengate rolled around, Jay and Lou blaming everything on Aaron was pretty much par for the course. I wonder if even Faye, Tom and Alex were on to it. I also have to wonder if Aaron was subconsciously aware of it, and if that's why he may have lashed out so hard at them over Presentgate.

So many gates, so little time...

Spot on.

Catch you all later

FayePalmer_BBFaye Palmer

Had such an awesome night Saturday...danced the night away with the girls & of course my gorgeous @Aaronspoppets. Sunday - Rest, food,Tv x

I daresay I'm asking for trouble with this one but I don't see why Louise is getting blamed here? She did exactly the same thing as Aaron. She voted for who she wanted to vote for rather than nominating someone she liked.

Fair enough, dislike her for disliking Faye, but I don't see that she did anything with her noms that Aaron didn't do with his.

I'm not seeing where this comes from at all

The lads weren't ganging up on him or singling him out or calling him a monster. They were primarily congratulating him on having scored!

He was the hero of the hour as far as most of them were concerned.

It was just that Aaron was deeply uncomfortable with that.

Regards

Julian

i haven't watched the Halloween nominations back and i probably won't but all i remember thinking was Aaron got played to an extent by Louise... he was expecting her just to toe the party line and his "plan" to put everyone but Alex up but she clocked on and then put Faye up.


i never have and will believe this unless for some reason Weston is devoid of good looking woman.

To his face and at first, yes... but they also helped to charge up the whole Maisy/Tom/Faye brigade against him.

Remember Anton in the bathroom being confronted about whether or not Aaron said he had sex with Maisy? Anton tried to imply that he had, but when pressed on it, it turned out Aaron had said nothing of the sort. It was just an awkward silence that Anton made out into something bigger than it was, as Anton tended to do.

Ah lovely

I hope Faye can make some friends of her own there as well - she should do as she is a very friendly person. Perhaps the girls are some of Aaron's friends' girlfriends of just female friends of Aaron themselves.

It's not the fact that she voted for who she would have done that is the bone of contention here but the fact that If she did exactly the same as Aaron then why wasn't equal blame aportioned to her Aaron was made out to be the guilty party and Lou got off scot free.

She was the one who was actually responsible for Faye going up yet Jay had the gall to blame it on Aaron and make out that Lou was just being wonderful by sacrificing herself to protect Jay, Tom and Alex. Aaron also protected Alex by his nominations but received no thanks for that.