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Please dont ask what i replyed to him about this.

Ok Goodnight everyone have to go as i have 1 son looking over my shoulder to see what i'm saying

Don't blame you for going then - not a good position to be in!

I seen your reply

So who is thinking of going to Bristol in March?

Me too - loonie - got your next dare - if you're interested?


Won't be in a fit state!

Just popped on before going to bed and seen this I am thinking about it as I always wish I'd gone to the one in February. There are lots of people going that I want to meet so I am hoping I'll be able to make it.

Good night everyone xx

fire away

Night Cheeky Chops hopefully talk tomorrow

Have sent you a pm - telling you all about it

Question is - Are you up to this challenge?

Going to bed - shattered

Night everyone

Loonie will expect your answer - or full report tomorrow

Night Carole, I'm off too, goodnight everyone

Night Carole talk tomorrow

Night Welshy , talk tomorrow, think I will go too.....

GOODNIGHT EVERYONE

Love Josie
Love John James
Love JJJAT
Total respect for Helena
Total respect for Auntie Kay

Wendy xxx

Hey Gussiecat. I'm thinking of going to Bristol. Want to meet Hairbear Claire and she is hoping to go.

Sod it, I'll post this here as well, as I don't hide
Had a lovely nigtt out with the parents, a little bit sloshed Just cathing up


Just to be crystal clear, I don't alert posts barring the one time mentioned above; I leave that to others, and mods decide what gets deleted not FM's - FM's can only alert posts, not delete them. I'm sure many get alerted that do not get deleted.

I don't hide myself away, I make myself pretty clear on all my thoughts... unlike some. As miljo said earlier, I haven't said anything on other threads that I hadn't made pretty damn clear on here before now.. thank miljo you you are right

I do not hide behind inuendo, sneering and childish behaviour ... well maybe a little bit, but surely only as much as some of the posts and tweets I've read tonight - and I have read a lot of that tonight since I came home, always somebody willing to point stuff out to you

I do try to say what I think and be honest in what I say (is that allowed ) I think you all know that, and am happy to hear what people have to say in response - good or bad ... but say it to ME. I would have thought that somebody, at least one person, would have had the cojones to express an opinion of their own ... to my face that is. At least I have tried to be open and honest since this delightful fiasco started (didn't DS warn us months ago not to mention the court thread on the JJJAT?), unlike what I've seen tonight - here and on twitter. You want maturity, sadly you have to behave that way too. You want to say something to me, you know I'm here in DS land.. but I don't think you really want that, you would rather giggle and titter in the corner, and that truly saddens me. Don't be scared or me, I'm most certainly not scared of you.

PS: This seems to have become yet another 'slag people off' thread... if you're doing it, at least acknowledge that you are exactly what you are accusing others of being.

SMH

Hmmmmm.

If I may take a break from being a sad, deluded, obsessive just for a mo.It's not hypocrisy when it is done for a purpose- to prove a point if you will.

I would imagine it feels the same way as one day many moons ago a twitter conversation was brought to my attention. It was the morning of Josie's new boyfriend mag. My thoughts? A bit upset that some people on here who I care about would be devastated. Other peoples? A hint of glee shall we say? "I'm going to post the link with an evil smile?"

I never saw the gloating actually on here though, funny that.

Having the balls to say something to peoples face? I could bring about 20 posts/tweets over if I could be arsed, never posted on here so thats a non valid argument. Quite a lot of posts tonight have addressed this issue head on, believe me. Alas they have all been alerted, so are no more only my sarcy ones remain. Sorry and all that.

Yes we are all aware of your opinions on JJJ.No problem you are more than entitled to them, you seem however to miss the point. It is the personal attacks on FMs who don't have a nasty bone in their bodies that have irked people ( Not me, Rip, Couldn't) and lets face it, most people know how long it's been going on. If you wish to attack these people to curry favour elsewhere that is your choice, but don't expect people not to be upset. Most are more than willing to say this to you but due to the phantom push the buttoner- cannot.

I WILL stress that although this may be pointed in your direction, you are not the only one which to be honest, just saddens me even more.


Last thing. If I was asked which I would rather be? Mature or loyal? Loyal every time.Sorry.

(You understand why I have not used your name- buttons and that)

Oh and I was slagging people off. I thought I made that clear.Sorry again.

Right, court is in session... there's an irony! You keep drawing me back, so keen on my presence you are


If that's how you justify it. Is it a case of your hypocrisy is bigger than my hypocrisy?


You'll have to elaborate on that one, but let's not - I'm sure you could have mentioned that on twitter at the time had you had wanted to. I don't remember myself, it was a long time ago.


Nope, they haven't addressed the matter head-on seeing as I was out with my parents from 7:30 tonight until 11:30 and so was unable to respond to anything that may or may not have been said or addressed to me personally. That's called talking behind your back - which I believe I am being accused of?


BIB - "we"... you are speaking on behalf of the thread as a collective now are you? Have you been asked to do so or did you volunteer? ... and are you really aware of my exact opinion on JJJ... personally, I think they were real, no showmance there, how about you? I don't have a more up-to-date opinion, they haven't been JJJ for quite some time now!

My supposed 'attack' irked one person who read the CT who then decided to tell everybody else - not what was said just a general opinion on what they had seen - presumably for their own good! It snowballed from there.

What exactly has 'been going on'? I don't expect people to be or not to be upset - they can read or not read what they choose, or of course have it pointed out to them They can then, of course, not ask me what I was on about but talk about it with other people and create a mini-frenzy... oops nope that wouldn't happen Of course, in an ideal world somebody might say - erm Ali I saw your post on the Court Thread, what exactly did you mean by that? but nope

Me expressing an opinion... been doing that since I joined DS. It's a discussion Forum.

I'm afraid you would have to point out any 'personal attack' on an FM that I have made - or describe any 'attack' (a word being used a lot these days - implying aggression or violent action against somebody, whereas I know for certain I have threatened nobody); I have not responded to anybody by name nor have I mentioned any one singular person (barring Gussie or Judy who either quoted me or alluded to a post that I had made, or in Gussie's case pointed out to others a post I had made and also responded in the Court Thread to a post that I had made once asked to), or named anybody that hasn't initiated a conversation or discourse.

I don't need to 'curry favour' with anybody, I am quite happy in my own skin using my own brain, thanks Isn't that what you are doing though, when you pop
in on the odd occasion when you feel it might be required? You rarely post here after all on a day-to-day basis.

If people have something to say there is always the PM facility However, my opinion on any situation - as already stated - is widely known and has been stated here openly - from my confusion over various opinions to my musical taste. If posts are disappearing then I am always in PM. I am not childish enough to sit here alerting away... I can argue my side of things, and chose to do so. I am not responsible to you or anybody, or answerable to you or anybody, and this little kangaroo court is only to make you feel better by having a little witch-hunt.


Nope, it's not pointed in my direction at all... it's right at me but I'm prepared to take the bullet for freedom of speech. I am not quite sure what it is that saddens you. That people have an opinion of their own, that they are willing to express it, or that they didn't ask permission first! It is interesting that you hardly post in this AT at all and yet this situation clearly bothers you. The situation only bothers me in as much as how it arose - gossip and inuendo rather than plain speaking, and what has come from that, this ridiculous situation.


Apology accepted.

I'm still loyal - to a JJJAT where freedom of expression was encouraged, where being allowed an opinion wasn't considered 'negative' if it wasn't the "right" opinion; where insinuating at least one member of the named Thread was lying and slating their 'suggested' b/f or g/f was considered okay because it's 'not their AT'.. even though the J or JJ involved obviously chose to be with or champion or seek that person's company and so that should be at least respected, where it's insinuated that almost all Josie says in her column is possibly untrue (although maybe we have JJJ to blame for that, nobody believe anything anybody says anymore... perhaps Josie doesn't even get involved in her column at all... it's ghost-written, who knows!! Maybe John and Josie never shared a flat at all... if she can lie about one, she can lie about it all surely!... maybe nothing is true and she's really a 40 year old man from Preston )


Feel free to use my name... is that how Alerts work .. I was always under the impression it was about telling DS about a post and they read it and then decide whether or not to delete. But hey ho... I do know you can challenge the, Kay did and won her challenge.

Am always there in PM as I said... or on the Sanatorium... where I suggested earlier anybody find me if they had something to say, but nobody did of course... well they did but not to me.

I know you wanted a response and so you got one, would have been less annoying for the other FMs if it had been on the Sanatorium - purely because these posts do seem to get deleted as you say. You can say pretty much what you want in chatter (obviously within reason) and not annoy the other FM's who want to watch the thread move along but might feel more content not to see posts such as yours and mine!

I think the thread members might have chosen Wendy as their spokesperson to speak for all, but a surprise is always good

You realise that neither I, Kay or anybody else on DS is accountable to anybody (other than DS itself of course) for anything we may say or have said anywhere across all the 1.5+ million threads... right? I personally have answered your insinuations and remarks out of courtesy... I hate a post being left unanswered!

Just remember nobody was intentionally insulted or individually mentioned in any other thread regarding this situation, but perhaps if you are free-thinking you might have taken the time to read the WHOLE thread and conversation yourself rather than taking a few words out of context or trusting what others tell you to be fact.

Have a good day one and all

JOSIE'S DIVIDED ON CHRISTMAS DAY.


I spoke to Lukes mum Liz this week - she is on my wavelength and absolutly hilarious. Mamma Sanwo ( liz) is also a champion baker - she won a competition for her meat loaf - and has asked me to come to her house in Ireland for Christmas with Luke and his sister
Now, while the cakes calling me, Im not sure - I like to go on holiday during the festive season my Mum and I have drifted apart over the past few years, so because I cant have the big family shindig I'd like I might go away to boot camp this year.

One day hopefully Lukey and I will have it all - big christmases, kids ( four of them) and lots of happiness - but I have kissed a lot of frogs to find my prince. I saw the first episode of TSAJ and I looked so drained. I made me realise what a good place Im in now compared to then and I started wondering why women ( including me) stay with shitty blokes who dont make them feel good. I figure it comes down to lack of confidence.

So this is a shout out to girls stuck in rubbish relationships - kick him in the nuts and move on. Its hard but surround yourself with girlfriends and you will be fine.

I have done it and ended up with the man of my dreams, so you can too.

Josie wearing shortish black dress with high black platform shoes, hair on one side and curly. Also pic of Lukes mum and sister.

Unfortunately Ladies it's quite possible you might have had the last of my poetry on here. I try not to let Tuesday magazine day get to me but just sometimes one line of an article can just push me over the top. I'm not sure that I can carry on writing about a Golden Story that one of the central characters now wants to publicly trash again.
I'm going to have a think today but I'm not sure that this is the place for me any more even though I love you all dearly.
Perhaps by tonight I will have calmed down. Who knows any more. I'll talk to you all at some point later. I hope this post stays here long enough for people to read it to explain my absence. Who knows at the moment
Cheers
Lyn

Awww Lyn,come on,don't take things to heart....fair enough if Jose thinks that,she was in that relationship,and John might feel the same,if it wasn't an unhappy relationship,they would've still been together.

I think i can speak for the majority of this thread,we do enjoy your ability,to tell a story,in such a poetic way,i admire ppl that are good with words,so for me it'll be a shame to see you go!

Take care.xxx

I dont know if Josie writes this or she has someone to do it for her, but most of it doesnt make sense to me. Firstly it doesnt sound as though she deliriously happy tbh, still bitter and angry, I thought she was supposed to have moved on, surely she could let it go for the sake of selling her column, it doesnt make very positive reading and also its unfair to John who doesnt have the right of reply. If shes found her prince charming or man of her dreams, why on earth is she not spending christmas with him and his famlly especially if she feels she cant be with hers for whatever reason. Perhaps she doesnt feel ready for that comittment yet and that s why she mentions her future aspirations or is it wishful thinking.

I dont feel her shoutout is very helpful either some women may not be in fantastic relationships but may have to stay for all sorts of reasons, because of children or finances, it isnt easy to just walk away because you feel your other half doesnt "make you feel good". I rather think that from what we have seen Josie s own self-esteem and confidence issues had a lot to do with her and to look to someone else to provide these for you is unrealistic, you have to find these within yourself hence the self-confidence, self-esteem, once you are happy in your skin then are able to judge the situation between both parties. As she said herself she is full of insecurities and that is some of the reason for the way she acts and thinks whether this has changed or not I dont know, hopefully it will gradually. To blame someone else for what you are responsible for is very immature imo. and not really fair to them if they have genuinely tried their best to help.
I never saw John at anytime put Josie down infact the opposite, unless he changed completely or was a different person from what we perceived.

Really this write up hasnt done her any favours, she may feel vengeful and bitter and it certainly comes across that way, it doesnt put her in a good light imo, a relationship takes two ppl for it to work, its not all one sided as we are led to believe. Sorry Josie love, but you have got to come up with something better than this for us to stay interested, although i do sympathise it is getting a bit like a broken record.

Sorry you feel like that Lyn, I understand how you are thinking but we would all miss you here if you go.

Morning, good post, nothing to add to that, my thoughts, your words