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JOSIE'S DIVIDED ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
I spoke to Lukes mum Liz this week - she is on my wavelength and absolutly hilarious. Mamma Sanwo ( liz) is also a champion baker - she won a competition for her meat loaf - and has asked me to come to her house in Ireland for Christmas with Luke and his sister Now, while the cakes calling me, Im not sure - I like to go on holiday during the festive season my Mum and I have drifted apart over the past few years, so because I cant have the big family shindig I'd like I might go away to boot camp this year. One day hopefully Lukey and I will have it all - big christmases, kids ( four of them) and lots of happiness - but I have kissed a lot of frogs to find my prince. I saw the first episode of TSAJ and I looked so drained. I made me realise what a good place Im in now compared to then and I started wondering why women ( including me) stay with shitty blokes who dont make them feel good. I figure it comes down to lack of confidence. So this is a shout out to girls stuck in rubbish relationships - kick him in the nuts and move on. Its hard but surround yourself with girlfriends and you will be fine. I have done it and ended up with the man of my dreams, so you can too. Josie wearing shortish black dress with high black platform shoes, hair on one side and curly. Also pic of Lukes mum and sister. Alert if you want I DON'T CARE. Bye bye. ![]() And this goes for both ( looks lik both played the mags and evryone else) but she said it inn the mag again so why i'm saying this about her. |
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I dont know if Josie writes this or she has someone to do it for her, but most of it doesnt make sense to me. Firstly it doesnt sound as though she deliriously happy tbh, still bitter and angry, I thought she was supposed to have moved on, surely she could let it go for the sake of selling her column, it doesnt make very positive reading and also its unfair to John who doesnt have the right of reply. If shes found her prince charming or man of her dreams, why on earth is she not spending christmas with him and his famlly especially if she feels she cant be with hers for whatever reason. Perhaps she doesnt feel ready for that comittment yet and that s why she mentions her future aspirations or is it wishful thinking.
I dont feel her shoutout is very helpful either some women may not be in fantastic relationships but may have to stay for all sorts of reasons, because of children or finances, it isnt easy to just walk away because you feel your other half doesnt "make you feel good". I rather think that from what we have seen Josie s own self-esteem and confidence issues had a lot to do with her and to look to someone else to provide these for you is unrealistic, you have to find these within yourself hence the self-confidence, self-esteem, once you are happy in your skin then are able to judge the situation between both parties. As she said herself she is full of insecurities and that is some of the reason for the way she acts and thinks whether this has changed or not I dont know, hopefully it will gradually. To blame someone else for what you are responsible for is very immature imo. and not really fair to them if they have genuinely tried their best to help. I never saw John at anytime put Josie down infact the opposite, unless he changed completely or was a different person from what we perceived. Really this write up hasnt done her any favours, she may feel vengeful and bitter and it certainly comes across that way, it doesnt put her in a good light imo, a relationship takes two ppl for it to work, its not all one sided as we are led to believe. Sorry Josie love, but you have got to come up with something better than this for us to stay interested, although i do sympathise it is getting a bit like a broken record. |
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So she was unhappy by Cristmas but played all loved up for the mags till March, but what the hell it was a good money and why don't milk it till the end. Money is money and you can never have it enough.
Alert if you want I DON'T CARE. Bye bye. ![]() |
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confused where did josie say she was unhappy by christmas in the article.Also wasn't it John who said he was unhappy by christmas in his Now mag article(might be wrong)you know the one were he said she was his past not his future.so if you're gonna make a statement of playing all loved up for mag's till march for MONEY then that would go for both of them.
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oh in other news jay and lou are engaged
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I dont know if Josie writes this or she has someone to do it for her, but most of it doesnt make sense to me. Firstly it doesnt sound as though she deliriously happy tbh, still bitter and angry, I thought she was supposed to have moved on, surely she could let it go for the sake of selling her column, it doesnt make very positive reading and also its unfair to John who doesnt have the right of reply. If shes found her prince charming or man of her dreams, why on earth is she not spending christmas with him and his famlly especially if she feels she cant be with hers for whatever reason. Perhaps she doesnt feel ready for that comittment yet and that s why she mentions her future aspirations or is it wishful thinking.
I dont feel her shoutout is very helpful either some women may not be in fantastic relationships but may have to stay for all sorts of reasons, because of children or finances, it isnt easy to just walk away because you feel your other half doesnt "make you feel good". I rather think that from what we have seen Josie s own self-esteem and confidence issues had a lot to do with her and to look to someone else to provide these for you is unrealistic, you have to find these within yourself hence the self-confidence, self-esteem, once you are happy in your skin then are able to judge the situation between both parties. As she said herself she is full of insecurities and that is some of the reason for the way she acts and thinks whether this has changed or not I dont know, hopefully it will gradually. To blame someone else for what you are responsible for is very immature imo. and not really fair to them if they have genuinely tried their best to help. I never saw John at anytime put Josie down infact the opposite, unless he changed completely or was a different person from what we perceived. Really this write up hasnt done her any favours, she may feel vengeful and bitter and it certainly comes across that way, it doesnt put her in a good light imo, a relationship takes two ppl for it to work, its not all one sided as we are led to believe. Sorry Josie love, but you have got to come up with something better than this for us to stay interested, although i do sympathise it is getting a bit like a broken record. |
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sorry I'm a bit slow but i did edit that post so go and look again.
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sorry for this but again can i ask where Josie mentions John's name.She say's she watched the first episode of TSAJ and realises how drained she looks,and it got her wondering why women in general stay with shitty bloke(S)probably partly meaning John but probably partly meaning her other ex who she has said they should of split up after 3 year's instead of staying with for 5,and probably meaning friend's who (we all see)being with someone they shouldn't.you've gotta remember the article is about love and relationships.Also if she was partly talking about John i don't think he need's a right to reply i'm prity sure he thought Josie was a shitty girlfriend.That's what ex's usually think of each other.lastly can i just say this isn't having a go at john (they are both no angel's)you said you never saw john put josie down,well you didn't watch the HL because he did have almost a daily habit of calling her dumb,stupid,thick as dog shit.Can i again say i'm not havin a go at John just replying to that sentence,i would do the same about Josie if that came up(if you know what i mean)
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Your probably right, according to this mornings tweets they both made a mistake.
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@josiestweet if you are stuck for a xmas present bit.Iy/uceKdp packaging to be changed in new year end of a era
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Morning everyone i'm so
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I dont know if Josie writes this or she has someone to do it for her, but most of it doesnt make sense to me. Firstly it doesnt sound as though she deliriously happy tbh, still bitter and angry, I thought she was supposed to have moved on
Letting go of bitterness is hard though. She like the fans obviously believed him when he told her he loved her, was attracted to her, loved everything about her, and that she meant everything to him and who knows what else once they were outside the house and in the privacy of their own home/bedroom etc. She let her guard down, she let him in, she put her trust and faith in him, opened up her heart and believed the words he said to her only for him to turn around a couple of months later and say in effect I made a mistake, I didn't actually mean any of that The other side of love is hate, isn't that what they say. Holding onto bitterness isn't healthy or right but it is what people do. Quote:
also its unfair to John who doesnt have the right of reply.
John's always had the right of reply and he's excercised that right on a couple of occasions in Now mag and also on twitter. Being the one who makes the decision to end things and walk away is always easier though than being the one left behind because the choice is yours, it's the person left behind who ends up feeling powerless as they're given no option but to accept what is. Quote:
If shes found her prince charming or man of her dreams, why on earth is she not spending christmas with him and his famlly especially if she feels she cant be with hers for whatever reason. Perhaps she doesnt feel ready for that comittment yet and that s why she mentions her future aspirations or is it wishful thinking.
From what we know everyone she's ever opened herself up to has let her down in one way or another. It's clear she's a damaged person and someone who probably makes the same mistakes over and over again in her relationships not just with men but with everyone. Until she gets proper help with that she'll more than likely continue to do so and repeat the same patterns.Quote:
I dont feel her shoutout is very helpful either some women may not be in fantastic relationships but may have to stay for all sorts of reasons, because of children or finances, it isnt easy to just walk away because you feel your other half doesnt "make you feel good".
Agree. It's a simplistic statement that's more like a throaway glib comment than truly helpful advice but at the same time lets put it into context in that it's relationship advice published in a lightweight celeb magazine so will be taken as such.Quote:
I rather think that from what we have seen Josie s own self-esteem and confidence issues had a lot to do with her and to look to someone else to provide these for you is unrealistic, you have to find these within yourself hence
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To blame someone else for what you are responsible for is very immature imo.
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I never saw John at anytime put Josie down
That's not factually true but I don't want to rake up all the he said/did she said/did stuff again, sufficient to say they've both put each other down and publicly showed little respect for each other.Also what 'We' saw is only a snapshot of their time together, just because 'We' didn't see things doesn't mean it didn't happen or on the flip side that it did, that's why 'We' can't really have a valid opinion on it either way to be fair when all's said and done. Quote:
Sorry Josie love, but you have got to come up with something better than this for us to stay interested
Us? talking for others is fine if they're agreeable but it also tends to include people who don't agree or who'd rather talk for themselves doesn't it? no answer required , rhetorical question really
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So she was unhappy by Cristmas but played all loved up for the mags till March, but what the hell it was a good money and why don't milk it till the end. Money is money and you can never have it enough.
Alert if you want I DON'T CARE. Bye bye. ![]() And this goes for both ( looks lik both played the mags and evryone else) but she said it inn the mag again so why i'm saying this about her. Where did Josie say she was unhappy last Christmas? Are you accusing her of faking a relationship? Josie loved John. Josie was devastated when the relationship ended. Josie was the one begging John not to leave. Josie's just explained in this article her frame of mind. She did love John. She did want the relationship to continue. But once out of the relationship she's realized how unhappy she was in it. John probably was too, who knows. But that's common in relationships where people break up. You fight so hard to stay together and defend your partner and your relationship, but when you get out you realize how unhappy you were. Why is Josie not allowed to share HER thoughts on HER relationship without people throwing temper tantrums? Why are these articles are brought here when they don't support JJJ? There's a thread on the MF for those who think the relationship is fake. Maybe you should check that out as here doesn't seem the place for that? --------------------- I don't think her column sounds vengeful, angry or bitter at all. I think it's Josie being a bit reflective on HER relationship then and where she is now. I hope she's happy and found the man of her dreams. If so, good for her. I want her to be happy, whatever that entails. |
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Brilliant post Killingtime.
My thoughts exactly, especially the first section. Josie for all her putting on a brave face was i believe absolutely devastated. If she is anything like me(and i do see a lot of me in her) it will take a long time to really get over the hurt and humiliation she felt. One day it will happen but until then who can blame her for her feelings . I dont. She is obviously taking her time with bf which is sensible. She has to be really sure before wholly commiting herself. I hate Tuesdays. |
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Sue where are you today?
Come and talk. I cant talk to myself today, cos i am haveing a really s**t day. My heating has broken down and it is freezing here. Have to wait for repair man to come. Its weird but this is the third time this has happened around Chrstmas. Christmas before last it happened on Christmas eve and i had no heating for three weeks. they would come and fix it in the morning and at night it would break down again. I was getting suicidal by the time they worked out i needed a new valve and fixed it properly. |
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I'll go for a ciggie and hope that someone(ANYONE)
will come on. Be back in ten. |
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@josiestweet if you are stuck for a xmas present bit.Iy/uceKdp packaging to be changed in new year end of a era
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well a late goodmorning to everyone, only just managed to read through,
mag article i find a bit contradictory, not sure how to take it since being on here, i read more into things, and find it lacking in something, dont know what though, and if she was knocking anyone, hes got the right to answer back, he just chooses not to, why dosnt he choose to, (thats if hes read it) does that say hes guilty i think he devastated josie, dont think shes over it either not fully, |
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from josie her perfume is changing in new year probably removing john's picture from the back
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So you think it will still have his pic on it still?
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Do I agree with these type of comments in magazines no, do I understand them yes. I think John hurt Josie a lot, much more than many seem willing to accept and so even though she is moving on I don't think she's forgiven him for that yet, maybe she never will, I hope for her sake and his she can at some point.
Letting go of bitterness is hard though. She like the fans obviously believed him when he told her he loved her, was attracted to her, loved everything about her, and that she meant everything to him and who knows what else once they were outside the house and in the privacy of their own home/bedroom etc. She let her guard down, she let him in, she put her trust and faith in him, opened up her heart and believed the words he said to her only for him to turn around a couple of months later and say in effect I made a mistake, I didn't actually mean any of that The other side of love is hate, isn't that what they say. Holding onto bitterness isn't healthy or right but it is what people do. I actually agree with this, I was rather referring to the content of the article. John's always had the right of reply and he's excercised that right on a couple of occasions in Now mag and also on twitter. Being the one who makes the decision to end things and walk away is always easier though than being the one left behind because the choice is yours, it's the person left behind who ends up feeling powerless as they're given no option but to accept what is. Again I dont disagree, again I was referring to the content of the article. That at the present time, he may choose not to reply for whatever reason so we dont know his side of the story. And yes it is always harder for those who are left behind rather than for those who walk away, I never admired him for that tbh in fact it was imo a far more hard selfish thing to do, and knowing of friends who have been left even with young children my sympathies would always lie with the one who has been left. From what we know everyone she's ever opened herself up to has let her down in one way or another. It's clear she's a damaged person and someone who probably makes the same mistakes over and over again in her relationships not just with men but with everyone. Until she gets proper help with that she'll more than likely continue to do so and repeat the same patterns. Agree. It's a simplistic statement that's more like a throaway glib comment than truly helpful advice but at the same time lets put it into context in that it's relationship advice published in a lightweight celeb magazine so will be taken as such. All I said is the way it was explained in the article is not very helpful and cant see that anyone would agree with the way its expressed. If you take the rest of the article seriously then why make exception to this part. True Yes it is but it's also fairly common when people screw up, much easier to look outwards and blame someone else rather than to look inwards and deal with your own less than noble words, sentiments and actions. That doesnt excuse responsibility for our own actions, words. How else would you learn from any mistakes you may make, if not by self-appraisal rather than blaming others all the time. It is a sign of growing up emotionally to evaluate your behaviour and see where sometimes it can be either changed or improved on. That's not factually true but I don't want to rake up all the he said/did she said/did stuff again, sufficient to say they've both put each other down and publicly showed little respect for each other. I agree they both did this and I though rather ambivalent about their relationship Also what 'We' saw is only a snapshot of their time together, just because 'We' didn't see things doesn't mean it didn't happen or on the flip side that it did, that's why 'We' can't really have a valid opinion on it either way to be fair when all's said and done. Us? talking for others is fine if they're agreeable but it also tends to include people who don't agree or who'd rather talk for themselves doesn't it? no answer required , rhetorical question really Sorry I have multiquoted wrong |
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