So she was unhappy by Cristmas but played all loved up for the mags till March, but what the hell it was a good money and why don't milk it till the end. Money is money and you can never have it enough.

Alert if you want I DON'T CARE.
Bye bye.

And this goes for both ( looks lik both played the mags and evryone else) but she said it inn the mag again so why i'm saying this about her.

josie changes her mind all the time i thoght thay where going 2 tiland for chrismos and if so happy y still have a go at john i just cant see the josie we new in the house where she gon i no il get stick for this but theres nothing new for that if only she woz over him like she saying i feel for bf coz it not going 2 eand happy

confused where did josie say she was unhappy by christmas in the article.Also wasn't it John who said he was unhappy by christmas in his Now mag article(might be wrong)you know the one were he said she was his past not his future.so if you're gonna make a statement of playing all loved up for mag's till march for MONEY then that would go for both of them.

sorry I'm a bit slow but i did edit that post so go and look again.

oh in other news jay and lou are engaged

sorry for this but again can i ask where Josie mentions John's name.She say's she watched the first episode of TSAJ and realises how drained she looks,and it got her wondering why women in general stay with shitty bloke(S)probably partly meaning John but probably partly meaning her other ex who she has said they should of split up after 3 year's instead of staying with for 5,and probably meaning friend's who (we all see)being with someone they shouldn't.you've gotta remember the article is about love and relationships.Also if she was partly talking about John i don't think he need's a right to reply i'm prity sure he thought Josie was a shitty girlfriend.That's what ex's usually think of each other.lastly can i just say this isn't having a go at john (they are both no angel's)you said you never saw john put josie down,well you didn't watch the HL because he did have almost a daily habit of calling her dumb,stupid,thick as dog shit.Can i again say i'm not havin a go at John just replying to that sentence,i would do the same about Josie if that came up(if you know what i mean)

no i just couldn't see where in the article she said she was unhappy by christmas.

Your probably right, according to this mornings tweets they both made a mistake.

just had a look at them tweets to Josie,paranoid now,coz i'd just said John probably think's Josie's a shitty girlfriend,and i also like using the word FACT in some of my reply's.haha

@josiestweet if you are stuck for a xmas present bit.Iy/uceKdp packaging to be changed in new year end of a era
awwwxxx

Morning everyone i'm so

Why you embarassed

Think i had a drink to meny last night

Is twitter playing up

Do I agree with these type of comments in magazines no, do I understand them yes. I think John hurt Josie a lot, much more than many seem willing to accept and so even though she is moving on I don't think she's forgiven him for that yet, maybe she never will, I hope for her sake and his she can at some point.

Letting go of bitterness is hard though. She like the fans obviously believed him when he told her he loved her, was attracted to her, loved everything about her, and that she meant everything to him and who knows what else once they were outside the house and in the privacy of their own home/bedroom etc. She let her guard down, she let him in, she put her trust and faith in him, opened up her heart and believed the words he said to her only for him to turn around a couple of months later and say in effect I made a mistake, I didn't actually mean any of that

The other side of love is hate, isn't that what they say. Holding onto bitterness isn't healthy or right but it is what people do.


John's always had the right of reply and he's excercised that right on a couple of occasions in Now mag and also on twitter. Being the one who makes the decision to end things and walk away is always easier though than being the one left behind because the choice is yours, it's the person left behind who ends up feeling powerless as they're given no option but to accept what is.


From what we know everyone she's ever opened herself up to has let her down in one way or another. It's clear she's a damaged person and someone who probably makes the same mistakes over and over again in her relationships not just with men but with everyone. Until she gets proper help with that she'll more than likely continue to do so and repeat the same patterns.


Agree. It's a simplistic statement that's more like a throaway glib comment than truly helpful advice but at the same time lets put it into context in that it's relationship advice published in a lightweight celeb magazine so will be taken as such.


True


Yes it is but it's also fairly common when people screw up, much easier to look outwards and blame someone else rather than to look inwards and deal with your own less than noble words, sentiments and actions.


That's not factually true but I don't want to rake up all the he said/did she said/did stuff again, sufficient to say they've both put each other down and publicly showed little respect for each other.

Also what 'We' saw is only a snapshot of their time together, just because 'We' didn't see things doesn't mean it didn't happen or on the flip side that it did, that's why 'We' can't really have a valid opinion on it either way to be fair when all's said and done.


Us? talking for others is fine if they're agreeable but it also tends to include people who don't agree or who'd rather talk for themselves doesn't it? no answer required , rhetorical question really

And I get accused of posting and running?

Where did Josie say she was unhappy last Christmas? Are you accusing her of faking a relationship? Josie loved John. Josie was devastated when the relationship ended. Josie was the one begging John not to leave.

Josie's just explained in this article her frame of mind. She did love John. She did want the relationship to continue.

But once out of the relationship she's realized how unhappy she was in it. John probably was too, who knows. But that's common in relationships where people break up. You fight so hard to stay together and defend your partner and your relationship, but when you get out you realize how unhappy you were.

Why is Josie not allowed to share HER thoughts on HER relationship without people throwing temper tantrums? Why are these articles are brought here when they don't support JJJ?

There's a thread on the MF for those who think the relationship is fake. Maybe you should check that out as here doesn't seem the place for that?
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I don't think her column sounds vengeful, angry or bitter at all. I think it's Josie being a bit reflective on HER relationship then and where she is now. I hope she's happy and found the man of her dreams. If so, good for her. I want her to be happy, whatever that entails.

Brilliant post Killingtime.
My thoughts exactly, especially the first section.
Josie for all her putting on a brave face was i believe
absolutely devastated.
If she is anything like me(and i do see a lot of me in her)
it will take a long time to really get over the hurt and humiliation she felt.
One day it will happen but until then who can blame her
for her feelings . I dont.
She is obviously taking her time with bf which is sensible.
She has to be really sure before wholly commiting
herself.
I hate Tuesdays.

Sue where are you today?
Come and talk.
I cant talk to myself today, cos i am haveing a really s**t day.
My heating has broken down and it is freezing here.
Have to wait for repair man to come.
Its weird but this is the third time this has happened
around Chrstmas.
Christmas before last it happened on Christmas eve and i had no heating for three weeks.
they would come and fix it in the morning and at night it would break down
again.
I was getting suicidal by the time they worked out i needed a new valve
and fixed it properly.

I'll go for a ciggie and hope that someone(ANYONE)
will come on.
Be back in ten.

from josie her perfume is changing in new year probably removing john's picture from the back

well a late goodmorning to everyone, only just managed to read through,
mag article i find a bit contradictory, not sure how to take it since being on here, i read more into things, and find it lacking in something, dont know what though, and if she was knocking anyone, hes got the right to answer back, he just chooses not to, why dosnt he choose to, (thats if hes read it) does that say hes guilty i think he devastated josie, dont think shes over it either not fully,

So you think it will still have his pic on it still?

number check to day
role model 5365 and 35 behind
+size 3835 and 209 behind

no dont think so she will probably change it

Its the terminology you have taken wrong, we is just another way of saying it may be plural, not the royal 'we' lol, I would assume that there may be others who agree with my comments about the article

Sorry I have multiquoted wrong