she really needs to get her breasts reduced - they are too big for her frame and they didnt seem well supported in last nights show and seemed saggy.

I have learned that I can tolerate Chelsee, and even, on occasion, like her dancing. However, she does have to wear her hair short and not open her mouth, or I have to watch with the sound turned down. I also can't believe how she treats Pasha sometimes, and how she constantly whines about feeling ill! But she can dance well, if not always act the part.

Her dances have no personality to them - she just seems to learn the steps and set off - and those lips make her look like a dancing goldfish.

I'm so glad someone else thinks she has no personality in her dances. I too think the same. Perhaps she is just too young although you'd think that as she is an actress, she would be able to act the part. Technically she is good but she doesn't do anything for me sadly.

I'm really hoping Harry, Jason and Holly reach the final. I do think Holly puts more into the dance than Chelsea.

I read somewhere that she doesn't like them now she but had them increased from a C cup to a DD when she was younger because of low self esteem. Is it not possible to reduce them again because you could see on the week that one of them came loose so to speak that she was very upset about it.

Overall I can't really warm to her, she has a little girl persona that I don't find very attractive.

One of the things I love about Strictly is how two people can watch the same dance and have vastly different opinions. One of the reasons I love Chelsee is she always gets the feel of the dance right for me.

For her foxtrot she was lady like and demure, bouncy and full of energy for her samba, then more serious last night.

She didn't connect at the right level to this dance, for whatever reason, but do people feel that her samba, charleston and her QS were characterless 'placed' performances? Week after week she's the one with the kick ass content, the energy, and the chemistry; some dances she gets, some not, but she's a hard-working girl with a lot of natural dancing talent. IMO. Her dancing partnership with Pasha is engaging.

People's comments on her appearance, her accent, dyslexia and so on - eh, they let you down guys. Again IMO.

I think it was only the AT that they haven't connected as a couple. One reason for this is because of her young age. To dance a good AT I think you need to be slightly older (in your 30's for instance). I think you need to show you have experience of life in this particular dance.

A few weeks ago there was a surgeon talking about the subject on one of those phone-in progammes, and Chelsee's name cropped up. He said he would never advise a girl of 18/19 to go in for such treatment because their bodies are still changing. He went on to say, in cases of low self esteem, where something is necessary for psychological reasons, there are alternative procedures that are less invasive and only last for 18 months ?
She went to Spain for her operation. Ironically the clinic she used is now using her name in their advertising, depite the fact that she has gone public saying she now regrets ever having it done.
She's clearly not very bright, and I feel sorry for her. The "trout pout" and freakishly large breasts..were there no family and friends who could have advised her to leave things alone, at least for a few years ?

Millie, that's what I'd have said too. I was surprised to read opinions saying she didn't connect but I guess we see different things. The AT seems a tough one. Len's comments to Harry and Aliona were pretty much the same - about not feeling it. Admittedly they seemed directed at Aliona more than Harry in that case...

Chelsee - she's the one I look forward to precisely because of her lively connection to the rhythm / dance / her dance partner.

Richmond Blue, how is it clear she's not very bright? Is this a risky question? I feel we're headed back into territory where her accent, dialect, dyslexia, birthplace etc are factors. Not getting at you, it's simply that as someone who has worked in education, I would hesitate before making a bold statement like that. Language is so central to us as a species, it's hard sometimes to appraise the dyslexic brain impartially.

Yes, perhaps I was jumping to conclusions, based on prejudice. The very fact that she decided on breast enlargement and facial surgery suggests air-head to me. But of course, there may have been deep seated psychological reasons for her decisions.
It would be interesting to see any earlier photos of Chelsee aged 16 0r 17, I imagine she was a pretty young girl with a "normal" figure. But obviously that would not have affected her own "self image"..rather like those who suffer from anorexia.

Nay, I didn't say you were prejudiced! It is just so hard - dyslexia is, people assume, a condition that affects writing and reading, but it's frequently more global than that and, if you're affected by it, from an early age you will have met understandable prejudices (we are the animal that lives thro language) and that can undermine confidence.

I'm not confident to say she isn't an air head either
We just can't know from our distance to the screen.

But I am prejudiced, I admit it !
I have loads of prejudices, people who have to be constantly tweeting, who can't be separated from their mobiles..Chelsee ticks a couple of boxes there in my long prejudice list.
Her accent..no. A couple of my best friends are from Liverpool and Manchester, and they are quite intelligent for northerners.

Ha ha! That's another thread entirely... Mobile phones, yes. Drivers who don't indicate when I'm a pedestrian if there are no other cars around... Hey, we foot travellers also need to know! I would happily throw bricks through their rear windows if I had a good enough arm. What else? Trousers that do not cover the buttocks.

Glad I didn't offend you! Guess I feel in a dopey way protective towards Chels...

So do I..in a way. She (sort of) represents the only way Chelsea are likely to win anything this season.

This is the only one I could find:

http://www.listal.com/viewimage/664932

I read an interview where she spoke about her 'beautiful blonde' older sister and how dumpy she felt beside her, or words to that effect. Add her dyslexia to that, and her reasons for surgery become rather more complex than her being a vain airhead.

I agree with you re twitter, but this applies to most of the remaining celebs and pros. Even Craig constantly supplied updates to his 'tweeps' on his driving lessons. It's the sheer banality of most tweets that I reckon many find annoying.

what red blooded female could see Pascha as a brother????

Whenever she speaks she puts me in mind immediately of that fine northern character actress Hylda Baker!!

BTW I'm a Mancunian and I found her deeply unintelligible last night!!

JJ

Sorry Chelsee does not do it for me. Very dull to watch, no passion or personality. She has not improved either. Same standard since day one.
It has been suggested on this forum that she is too young to be able to do the dances with passion but Louisa Lytton was only 17 and she blew me away when she danced so I don't think age comes into it.
I am enjoying this series but we don't really have a Chris Hollins this year. By that I mean the non-dancer that showed vast improvement. For me the contestants don't have to be perfect dancers, just work hard and really improve each week.

I'm a Liverpudlian and understood every word. Weird, no?

Rather unfair of the judges and of others to expect Chelsee to produce Mark Ramprakash-style or Anita-style intensity (having not lived even half as long) while learning one of the toughest amateur ATs step-wise ever seen on Strictly in same week as having to study steps for the wretched swingathon.

Being an actor is not a one-size-fit-all profession, in the same way as professional singers cannot sing every style, so her style of acting, and even capacity to act, may be stuck in the soubrette style until she's a lot older, or unless TV offers her different roles.

I increasingly have the feeling that Chelsee is in above her head, is surviving Strictly as best she can, and if she is feeling unwell, she could even cave in and not make it to the semifinals;

It's like the reverse situation of that where the older celebrity dancers are not allowed to have any allowances made (by people in this forum) for their age in terms of their ability to tackle high energy, challenging routines. Lots of people seem to think that their greater age should not be a factor when judging their performance.

If so, then Chelsee's lack of years/ life experience should not be an excuse for not interpreting the essence of an Argentine Tango.

I'm Dutch and have no problem understanding Chelsee - scary, right?

Chelsea is lovely - little miss dynamite - so cute when dancing with Pasha - I wish her well

You clearly aren't trying hard enough not to understand her.

Some very strange opinions in this thread. I liked their AT, it was very intricate and very difficult. Yes not her best dance, because according to her and Pasha she couldn't quite get the character. However as others have said, even for an actress it might not be easy to get every role (or are we now assuming that everyone has to be perfect at what they do).

I get the feeling she can't win. If she said that she wants to screw Pasha and if she had looked all slutty etc., people would have been up in arms. Now that she couldn't do that (regardless of her big breasts), people say she got it wrong as well.