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Total and transparent voting fix
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sammypvt
26-11-2011
Why do we bother voting. No way in earth did fatima and Pat get the lowest votes. Pat is being kept in there by some to mix it up and Fatima has a strong fan base.

Naturally they are the only 2 that will give that trial a go, hence the result of them in the bottom 2.

SORRY GUYS BUT NO MORE OF MY MONEY IS GOING ON THE VOTES TILL THE FINAL, ITS A TRANSPARENT AND SHAMELESS FIX FOR VIEWING FIGURES.

If it had have been Chrissy and Lorraine like expected, the task would have lasted nano seconds. With Pat and Fatima its going to go on forever and probably Fatima will be voted out wrongly. SHAME ON THE PRODUCERS, That woman deserves better than to be evicted just for their viewing figures, if indeed she goes. Either way, the show looses.
WaynefromWales
26-11-2011
You vote ? seriously ?
maureens
26-11-2011
Originally Posted by sammypvt:
“Why do we bother voting. No way in earth did fatima and Pat get the lowest votes. Pat is being kept in there by some to mix it up and Fatima has a strong fan base.

Naturally they are the only 2 that will give that trial a go, hence the result of them in the bottom 2.

SORRY GUYS BUT NO MORE OF MY MONEY IS GOING ON THE VOTES TILL THE FINAL, ITS A TRANSPARENT AND SHAMELESS FIX FOR VIEWING FIGURES.

If it had have been Chrissy and Lorraine like expected, the task would have lasted nano seconds. With Pat and Fatima its going to go on forever and probably Fatima will be voted out wrongly. SHAME ON THE PRODUCERS, That woman deserves better than to be evicted just for their viewing figures, if indeed she goes. Either way, the show looses.”

I agree said in previous post's im convinced the votes are rigged and lets be honest ITV have been known for it in the past;(allegedly)
benjiman_LFC
26-11-2011
I find it incredible that Pat & Fatima are at the bottom. Admittedly they are my favourite 2 but they have contributed far more than Jessica, Mark, Lorraine, Dougie, Emily and Willie put together
Department_S
26-11-2011
Sammy I share your deep frustration but as the second poster says do the sensiblle people actually bother voting?
benjiman_LFC
26-11-2011
I guess the producers weren't to keen on a Crissy vs Lorraine survival fight. They would both probably have shouted IACGMOOH. That wouldn't have made good TV would it?
foxyred
26-11-2011
Pat has been quite low down in the bookies for a while. I was a bit surprised by Fatima though but it all shifted dramatically after Emily did her trial, prior to that she was odds on favourite to go ahead of Sinitta.
Leicester_Hunk
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by benjiman_LFC:
“I find it incredible that Pat & Fatima are at the bottom. Admittedly they are my favourite 2 but they have contributed far more than Jessica, Mark, Lorraine, Dougie, Emily and Willie put together”

Dougie is the invisible man, I totally forgot he was in there.
Heavenly
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by benjiman_LFC:
“I find it incredible that Pat & Fatima are at the bottom. Admittedly they are my favourite 2 but they have contributed far more than Jessica, Mark, Lorraine, Dougie, Emily and Willie put together”

Fatima wasn't shown at all tonight and Pat was his usual self, hence why they were both bottom 2, imo.
footygirl
27-11-2011
basically thry haave rigged the vote- how do we know that this is independantly verified
Cranberryapple
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by benjiman_LFC:
“I guess the producers weren't to keen on a Crissy vs Lorraine survival fight. They would both probably have shouted IACGMOOH. That wouldn't have made good TV would it?”

Or Crissy may have fallen asleep. It's not the first time she's been referred to as ' always sleeping' by a campmate.. Can't believe her and Lorraine beat Fatima and Pat
footygirl
27-11-2011
i doubt they did - i really think the vote was rigged- how do we know this is independantly verified - there is something blatently wrong - think ofcom shoul;d investigate on grounds that itv previously fixed a result to allow cotton to win SS
digichant
27-11-2011
Why is it a voting fix?

I know that when I'm watching I enjoy seeing Lorraine and Tedward, Crissy's comical points and her accent and I also have taken a liking to Emily and Jessica-Jane.

While watching the show with my family, we all sit there tutting and cursing at Fatima and Pat because they're either controlling or just rude or arrogant. They are both much more dislikeable than any other campmates and this is why they're in the bottom two.
mary03
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“i doubt they did - i really think the vote was rigged- how do we know this is independantly verified - there is something blatently wrong - think ofcom shoul;d investigate on grounds that itv previously fixed a result to allow cotton to win SS”

Agreed 100%

There's no way that both of these are bottom two, more so since they are the only two in the camp that are guaranteed to give their all in the head to head trial.
glasshalffull
27-11-2011
After all the exposes of mistakes/fixes in telephone voting there have been I very much doubt data was falsified...you saw an example of the way it really works earlier this week.

When Pat ensured his airtime was certain to come across negative in order to get a trial...whether producers in on it with him or themselves manipulated who knows.

Fact is if they were not...you could be sure they would "get him back"...I assume last night was all negative edit of Pat and Fatima and probably mostly positive about Willie/Lorraine/ the booby girls/Chrissy...didn't see the show.

It's "manipulation" more than outright "fixing"...and TBH the producers know there are enough people they can "con" or will allow themsleves to be manipulated.
biggeral
27-11-2011
I don't think this was a fix. I thought it would be between Pat, Fatima, Lorriane and Crissy. I hope Pat goes tomorrow.
*Laura*
27-11-2011
I don't think it was fixed but, I do think they made sure that those who were vulnerable the previous night had a positive spin last night. Lorraine was in the BT almost as much as Antony last night so it was obvious they were trying to save her.
squillion
27-11-2011
I think we have to look on the majority of who bothers to vote. Whilst a wide range of people may watch the show, the majority of people that can normally be bothered to vote each day are the youngsters. So that means the 4 young uns got a lot of votes immediately.

Its also possible that people felt Pat and Fatima as the bigger personalities in there were already getting lots of votes and attention and they just wanted to save their preferred weaker member, especially those who nearly went the other day.
hicken
27-11-2011
My immediate reaction was that it was fixed. I just don't believe that the two most determined people who will make this trial worth watching had the least votes.

Doubt if I'll watch it at all now.
Fringo
27-11-2011
It's not a fix.
footygirl
27-11-2011
Fringo - how do you know it isn't a fix - can you give conclusive proof that there isn;t anything suspicious going on. ITV are desperate for Cotton or Wright to win.

And which two celebs are threatening their little dream - Fatima and Pat.

There is no way that vote was kosher
AA2009
27-11-2011
Would ITV really risk fixing a phone after all the scandal a couple of years ago? Just to save someone like Crissy Rock for a few days?
Fringo
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Fringo - how do you know it isn't a fix - can you give conclusive proof that there isn;t anything suspicious going on. ITV are desperate for Cotton or Wright to win.

And which two celebs are threatening their little dream - Fatima and Pat.

There is no way that vote was kosher”

No I can't like no one can prove otherwise on here.

As you say ITV have been done for it before - they wouldn't do it again and for such a flimsy reason.

I don't see why it's so beyond belief that they're up.
Fringo
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“Would ITV really risk fixing a phone after all the scandal a couple of years ago? Just to save someone like Crissy Rock for a few days?”

Exactly it's a ludicrous assertion. Ludicrous and hilarious.
MARTYM8
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by benjiman_LFC:
“I find it incredible that Pat & Fatima are at the bottom. Admittedly they are my favourite 2 but they have contributed far more than Jessica, Mark, Lorraine, Dougie, Emily and Willie put together”

They are clearly the top 2 you would want to see in the trial - the clash of the titans.

But I too find it hard to believe Fatima and Pat got the lowest votes in a vote to save - did people think they were voting on who they wanted to do the trial (cos it would be them) and not who to evict? But surely they would get the most votes - not the least.

A total mystery to me how Pat and Fatima (who are interesting) are getting less votes than the two model airheads who I had never heard of before the show?

Clearly isn't a fix and reflects the votes - but its very odd?
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