I mean of course I realise you can't pin all the blame on Kelly, but surely her being away for a music video shoot in Paris affected her girls in some way. Not to mention when she is there she seems to give Misha and even Amelia a lot more attention than Janet. Janets recent performances have shown she is struggling but Kelly doesn't seem to want to spend more time with her and help her improve (either that or Janet is incredibly stubborn and won't accept any help). I don't really have a problem with Kelly at all. I just think she could be doing a better job with mentoring Janet. She seems to be pouring all her efforts into keeping Misha and Amelia (to a lesser extent) in the competition and relying on the public to vote for Janet because she knows she is quite popular. Again I repeat I have no problem with Kelly and I can't put Janets failure on her shoulders. It does feel like Janet got the short end of the stick having her as a mentor though.

In a word, yes.

None of the "mentors" have any expertise in developing a new act and it shows painfully. Most acts have regressed since judges houses and some have simply stalled. It's apparent in the fact that they keep going back to ther original performances and they openly say so, they did it with Misha, Janet, Marcus and Craig.

Little Mix are the exception, but im sure this is down to their work rate and very much despite Tulisa rather than because of her.

I think it's much more straight forward, out of her 3 acts, she knows Janet is the weakest, and someone has to go.

The judges are there to give the show some publicity. The main mentoring is performed by a dedicated team of singing and dancing coaches.

Imo Kelly's favouritism is apparent. That is bound to affect you when your own mentor doesn't appear to be very interested in you, I could see that playing a part in her mental state and confidence, thus affecting her performances. I also think some of the song choices have been abysmal, who is to blame for that though, I don't know!

The mentors really don't do much at all, it's just a hook for the viewers.

Erm, based on comments from last night, Janet does her own thing and picks her own song. so why are we blaming Kelly for Janet's shortcoming?

Kelly went to France for a video shoot, she was away for a day to two, she wasn't on the north-pole, there is email, phone skype. Even though Gary and Tulisa are in the country, I doubt they spent 7 days a week with their acts.

Kelly and Janet clearily don't get on, Janet is her own person she chooses her own songs and totally ignores what people are saying, In a way full credit to her for sticking to her guns and going along her own path!, but in turn this will cause fricitoon between her and Kelly.

I don't think Kellys to blame at all for Janets failure, its all on janet, she chooses her own songs and shes the one that sings, so if Janet goes tonight then shes only got herself to blame!

I said I didn't fully blame Kelly, I just think she could be at least partly to blame. Phone and skype are not the same as actual face to face meetings. If she is more interested in her own career I don't know why she agreed to be a judge/mentor. I just feel like she isn't putting as much effort into Janet as her other contestants.

I think Janet is out of her depth to be honest but I also think Kelly has given up on her & its showing in Janet's performances. If your mentor isn't supporting you fully it has a negative affect, I think Janet is feeling left out & her singing has been affected. I don't really think anyone is to blame, I just think Janet is too young & immature to deal with it.

Well as we've seen Janet always wants to do her own thing (and fails), so Kelly is not to blame. People just say it's Kelly so they can have a dig at her.

Failure is a strong word to use. She hasn't even been voted of yet. And hopefully, she won't.We need her there again next week!

It's not like the 4 judges are personally mentoring the contestants all week long. X Factor's team of vocal and dancing coaches does most of the work.

I think Janet is out of her depth and I can't even blame Kelly if she prefers Misha and Amelia.

Yeah I think so, she definitely hasn't helped her at all.


Just annoys me the fact that she is showing more attention to Amelia than Janet, when she actually put Amelia out over Janet. :sleep:

I think Janet is in the wrong show, she is obviously uncomfortable and it doesnt help that in my opinion, Kelly is a bit of a rubbish mentor. Dannii would have been FAR better for Janet.

It appears to me, and of course I could be wrong we don't know all that goes on, that Kelly does the bare minimum that is required to fulfill her job title. She doesnt seem invested in her acts - much as I am not a fan of Tulisa, she at least comes across as giving a damn and she really does seem to care about Little Mix. Louis phoned it in as usual, lost all his acts as usual and is now just killing time til he can go on holiday

Gary has made some errors with his mentoring but at least he is trying. Kelly seems bored 99% of the time.

Janet will do far better I think once this is all over.

Well, maybe a few more weeks of mentoring Janet and seeing how limited her talent is Kelly realized Amelia was the better option to keep?

Janet is solely responsible for her failure. She openly acknowledges she choses to ignore advice. That isn't just about song choice, that is across the board from stylists to staging.

What do the professionals know with their wealth of experience? Oh well, Janet knows best.

Amazing arrogance for someone with such little talent that is based on a vocal gimmick. No substance to her at all.

Go home.

Exactly, I don't get why people keep blaming Kelly. We don't actually know how much Kelly does or doesn't do, but whatever it is it's clear that Janet doesn't want her help, so why should Kelly be responsible.

Only Janet is responsible. To be at this point of the competition and to forget the words to the song is inexcusable. There are thousands that want to be in her position. She does not deserve to win. At the end of the day, you need to be self motivated. You don't need a mentor stuck on your hip in order to succeed. She's lost her spark, her drive. There are people who want this more than Janet.

Janet has admitted that she doesn't watch her performances. That is career suicide in my opinion. Every top athlete, musician, actor, singer, dancer, you name it watches back their work, sees what needs to be improved and how things can be better. It's obvious on the X-Factor who's done that and Marcus has, Misha has, Little Mix has and Amelia totally has. While Amelia was the worst on the night she was sent home, I think that there was far too much hype around Janet and Kelly screwed up by not realising Amelia's potential.

Amelia really stood out for me last night. I really wanted to like Janet as I like that kind of singing but the truth is, she isn't that great at the style she sings in. I don't care about the versatility crap because the singers I like tend to have one particular style and that's why I like them. I don't think this can be pinned on Kelly; perhaps Janet is a bad mentee.

Janet has to accept most of the responsibility but it must have been clear in rehearsals that that song wasn't working and Kelly or someone should have told her. Of course it's possible they did and she just ignored them...

I was trying to point out that she was not totally out of reach. And as I said before, the fact that Gary, or Tulisa are in the same country doesn't mean they are with their contestants 7 days a week or able to race down and be at their beck and call when they need them. There are times they would have to talk over the phone because tulisa is out promoting her perfume or whatever else.

Kelly might not put effort into Janet because she ignores her does what she wants regardless. I doubt she would do well under a different mentor seeing that she also ignores what Gary tells her.

How do you define "support" in this instance? Kelly is letting her sing what she wants how she wants. what else can she do?

Completely agree. While Kelly may or may not be a great mentor, she has been in the music industry since she was a teenager and has a wealth of experience to draw on. Not just Janet but any kid who comes on this show on refuses to listen to people with many years experience (not just the mentors but the backroom people as well) is showing both arrogance and stupidity.
Ok, to say 'I know who I am' is fine but you still need help and pushing in the right direction.

Surely Kelly could see that Janet has her own certain style though? Thought that was obvious from the beginning