Whoever Kelly thinks is the weakest of her acts is irrelevant! She should be giving 100% to all three!

But if someone isn't willing to take advice from her and do things "their way" why should she bother?

She's not especially competent in the "style" she sings in. Janet needs a lot of work-- work that should have been done before the X-Factor. Janet was over-hyped, simple as that. The image the X-Factor wanted was completely different to how Janet really is.

The X-Factor always sticks to the same scripts-- it's how they sell the show to various markets. It's not the place for any real originality or quirks. All of the winners have been predictable types. It's why Misha is not going to win, nor Amelia, nor Janet.

Because the role of the mentor should be the help the contestants do their own thing. A mentor ought to be offering advice, support and the voice of experience to their acts, even if they're trying to do their own thing. It shouldn't be a question of the judges dictating every aspect of the performance to an indentikit popbot, but it seems like Kelly thinks that it is exactly that and has cut Janet loose.

I don't think Kelly knows what to do with Janet, I think Kelly likes her and wants her to do well but doesn't know how to channel that.

Completely agree.

It's Janet fault and hers alone.

There are a team of coaches to support her .

I know there is the pressure of being on live TV but at the end of the day she just has to sing one or two songs each week with very little choreography or production to complicate things ...basically she has to stand still and sing two songs.

If she cannot do this to a reasonable level after a week of rehearsing and learning the song then she does not have enough natural inbuilt talent to be there.

There are many acts that already been voted off like Kitty, Johnny, Sophie, Sami and The Risk who could at least go out there and give a reasonable rendition of a song and remember the lyrics and sound good.

Kelly and Janet live in different times and places, they were never destined to understand each other. Misha is more Kelly's cup of tea or coffee.

Tulisa both in age and background can relate more to her young acts but even there gaps will exist.

Whilst the singing coaches etc do a lot of the grafting Kelly was not over in France for one or two days but best part of the X Factor preparation week. After a few live shows, it was apparent to the public that Kelly was more interested in Misha and it showed with the unhappy performances by Janet. More recently Janet has taken control I suspect and whether the right songs for X Factor, appears more happy and confident. It just took her awhile to find her own feet and realise she is strong enough and that Kelly was never ever going to be and asset.

Having said all that, Janet's performance was not good enough and I think she should now come off. Actually she may well be happier and who know's perhaps she is not just a simple girl and saw an opportunity to fluff up with grace to bow out. She will get picked up for a record deal and leaving now will possibly allow her to get an Album out before the rest.

It's a combination of the producers and Kelly's fault. But mainly the producers if I'm honest.

Absolutely yes Kelly never seen what Janet was all about and what her music style was some of the song choices were dreadful.

If Simon had of been her mentor it would have been different. Look at Rebecca last year Cheryl may have been criticised for having her just stand there but it still worked that is the singer she will be. Janet is the same and will be great in a recording studio but her guidance on the show was crap.

I don't think any mentors have ever been to blame for failure or success on X Factor, because they're simple figureheads and not real mentors in any way.

Very true.
I know Amelia looks more professional than Janet... But let's remember both are the same age.
And Amelia survived a few curved balls from Kelly, like being forced to sing that awful song 'Think'.... and yes... being kicked out in the first week.

According to her twitter she left on the 22nd and was back on the 24th...so two days. And it tallies up with the news stories, the press picked up the story of her leaving on the 23rd and reported her return on the 24th.

Her being away is neither here nor there. As I've said repeatedly, the fact that the other judges are in the country doesn't mean they are there for their acts.

Kelly doesn't seem to want "indentikit popbots" - amelia, sophie and Misha are quite different from eahc other. I think the problem is Kelly and Janet couldn't find a middle ground.

Above. Why is Kelly being blamed if Janet doesn't perform Janet has never been in the bottom two and no one can make her forget her words. She seems very stubbourn when it comes to her music which is good in one respect but not necessarily fo a show like the X Factor where you have to accomodate the song choices.

Janet wants to do things her way and Kelly has let her have enough rope to hang herself with so its a bit of both. I say this as a supporter of Janet and I do really like Rowland even though she annoys the hell out of me with her gangsta mole speak.

Yes - how is Janet a 'failure'.

She is the only one of Kelly's acts who has never been bottom 2! If she manages to survive tonight - after what happened yesterday - I actually think she will win because it clearly shows the strength of her support!

Sorry the video must have been a walk on and off bit part for Kelly then, or maybe she got scared at the reaction the news of her going got, or more likely X Factor Production stepped on her a bit to put her in her place.

The 30-year-old star has left her girls in the lurch once again, this time to spend time in Paris working on her own career.

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Keep trying, the point remains the same.

Couldn't have put that better myself

I'm not sure sure what you trying to prove posting a quote and link to Daily mail. I never disagreed that she went to France. I simply think it is not that big of a deal since she wasn't unreachable and being in the same country doesn't mean the other two judges are there for their acts.

what if her role in the video was "walk on and off"? ....there are musicians that don't even appear in their videos.

I love how you don't let facts or reality interfere with the anit-kelly storyline you have written in your head.

No, kelly never told her to mess up on stage or forget the words.

Uhm no.
Two of Janet's worst performance were her own song choices.

I do agree with many of the replies in this thread and I acknowledge that at the end of the day Janet may be too stubborn to accept advice. It just seems to me that Kelly doesn't know what to do with her and therefore wants to be rid of her. This would undoubtedly affect Janet in a negative way. I know she is not a complete failure, I was using the word to refer to her last performance which imho was a failure. Tulisa seemed genuinely invested in all her acts, as did Gary and even Louis to an extent. With Kelly however I can't shake the feeling that she is just not doing everything she possibly can to keep Janet in this competition. Sure Janet is stubborn but if she fails with a performance Kelly should inform her why and be there to rectify that failure. If Janet still won't listen then yes, I fully agree she needs to go home but at this point in time I feel Kelly has given up on her and is focusing mainly on Misha B. Even Amelia doesn't seem to get as much attention, so this thread could very well apply to her bad performance last week (not as bad as Janets was this week but still not great imo). As for the people saying the judges don't even mentor their contestants, this may be the case but until I am actually a contestant or judge myself then I won't know for sure. Until then I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Janet is still in the competition after being shit for quite awhile now and has never been in the bottom 2, I don't really see what you 're actually blaming Kelly for?

Personally I don't think that Janet is singing the right type of material that is suited to her voice. Gary's comments after the first song she did were correct. Whether this is Janet's fault or Kelly's I don't know.

Most vocalists are limited to a certain degree by the sound of the voices however well they can sing. Very few people can sing every style, you need a different type of voice to sing rock, jazz, folk/country or classical.

Janet would probably be better off leaving the competition soon and working at her own speed on material that is suited to her. Winning the X-factor would probably be a curse for her because she might be forced into singing the wrong type of material.