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Lana Del Rey - Born To Die (Album Thread)
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konebyvax
29-11-2011
Actually the song Born To Die, sonically and structurally, is much closer to Born To Run than Born This Way - there are parts of it that are very Springsteen-esque to my ears.


PS Just don't get the Flo comparisons, though. Of course Video Games uses harps but, to me, that's about the only similarity. And I just don't see Interscope signing her up to be the new Flo in the US as Flo isn't that big over there.


PPS I DO get the Kate Bush, early Tori Amos comparisons though.
Hav_mor91
29-11-2011
Flo is quite big over there Lungs has sold almost a million but i wasn't comparing them directly i was just saying she's just the next chain in the female singer-songwriter link
konebyvax
29-11-2011
Maybe. Like JP, I do find her very interesting, though. If I'm being honest I actually find her more interesting than Flo. Eek, I said it. Of course, the album may turn out to be a stinker, though We don't know how it's going to pan out yet.
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Actually the song Born To Die, sonically and structurally, is much closer to Born To Run than Born This Way - there are parts of it that are very Springsteen-esque to my ears.


PS Just don't get the Flo comparisons, though. Of course Video Games uses harps but, to me, that's about the only similarity. And I just don't see Interscope signing her up to be the new Flo in the US as Flo isn't that big over there.


PPS I DO get the Kate Bush, early Tori Amos comparisons though.”

I think she is AS exciting as Ms Welch definitely! Welch is adventurous while Lana is seductive.

And yes SPringsteen slays and yeah i think that there is a similarity!

Basically any title with Born in it will be compared....but Born This Way is silly.

But i have faith in her debut...i just hope its not a Jessie J...has the talent but the songs dont back it up....i have my faith however.
Hav_mor91
29-11-2011
Oh i hope it isn't a who you are either but TBH she has more promise, i don't think she is as exciting as flo compare debut singles kiss with a fist and video games but the more i listen i do see snippets of originality so ima stop comparing and wait for the appallingly titled born to die.
jack soon
29-11-2011
"I wanted to be a band but the label I was with and the team I had around me absolutely wanted me to be a solo artist. Lana Del Rey came from a series of managers and lawyers over the last 5 years who wanted a name that they thought better fit the sound of the music."

She couldn't be any more of a product. I suppose she "co-wrote" all by herself too.
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by jack soon:
“"I wanted to be a band but the label I was with and the team I had around me absolutely wanted me to be a solo artist. Lana Del Rey came from a series of managers and lawyers over the last 5 years who wanted a name that they thought better fit the sound of the music."

She couldn't be any more of a product. I suppose she "co-wrote" all by herself too.”

Like everyone in the music industry since the year dot.

Please get over yourself! Thank you

and no she WROTE! and Writes and has Written and will forever Write.
konebyvax
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“I think she is AS exciting as Ms Welch definitely! Welch is adventurous while Lana is seductive.

And yes SPringsteen slays and yeah i think that there is a similarity!

Basically any title with Born in it will be compared....but Born This Way is silly.

But i have faith in her debut...i just hope its not a Jessie J...has the talent but the songs dont back it up....i have my faith however.”


Oh God, that's a worry! If the songs she's played on her current tour are any indicator, I think it could be great. But only time will tell.

PS What's impressive about her live sound is there isn't a backing singer in sight.
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Oh God, that's a worry! If the songs she's played on her current tour are any indicator, I think it could be great. But only time will tell.

PS What's impressive about her live sound is there isn't a backing singer in sight.”

Yeah my sister went to see Jessie J live and i had her album at the time (only played once i may add) and my sister wasnt a fan...she saw and loved the show Jessie J did and i gave her the album....my sister said the album is nothing like what she is like live lol.

And i believe it.

But i feel that with THAT lead song....Lana will have a fantastic debut album set to surprise...visually she is very interesting in her videos and her sound is quirky!
Hav_mor91
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Yeah my sister went to see Jessie J live and i had her album at the time (only played once i may add) and my sister wasnt a fan...she saw and loved the show Jessie J did and i gave her the album....my sister said the album is nothing like what she is like live lol.

And i believe it.

But i feel that with THAT lead song....Lana will have a fantastic debut album set to surprise...visually she is very interesting in her videos and her sound is quirky!”

Jessie J had two great leads and an album that bombed and as we have had just a handful of songs From her it's difficult to ascertain which way the album will go.
konebyvax
29-11-2011
Born To Die the single isn't out until 16/1/12! I'm hoping we will get the video well before as it does sound intriguing - according to LDR it's controversial, was shot in a Chateau in France and contains a real, live tiger!

In other news, 'Video Games' receives surprising praise from the Second Coolest Person In The World

Quote:
“What was the last song you heard that made you think, "Wow. What's that song called?" (JonnyMac99, online)

I really like that "Video Games" song, you know… Lana del Rey. I heard it on the radio and I legally downloaded it and then played it on my [6Music] show and I suddenly thought, "Wow, I'm playing something that's in the charts!" I got really excited about that because I was brought up on the charts and I have lamented their demise as a vital part of our British life. That's what I miss, that you used to get interesting things in the charts.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...?newsfeed=true
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Cannot wait to hear the final version of the title song and the video too....sounds intriguing.

And i agree we NEED interesting songs in the charts more and more....its slowly coming back that way...i feel 2012 is gonna really push it forward.

Bringing Indie Pop, Electronica, Ambient, Baroque, very vast ranges coming out in popular music i feel....which should make for very interesting top 40 for next year!
Hav_mor91
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Cannot wait to hear the final version of the title song and the video too....sounds intriguing.

And i agree we NEED interesting songs in the charts more and more....its slowly coming back that way...i feel 2012 is gonna really push it forward.

Bringing Indie Pop, Electronica, Ambient, Baroque, very vast ranges coming out in popular music i feel....which should make for very interesting top 40 for next year!”

I agree not so much in that we need interesting things in the chart you can find interesting things in other places what i'd like to see is more variety rather than one Genre (Any variant of dance/pop) dominating if we could get back to when you had a rock song being number one with a dub song at number 2 just variety would be nice to see.
jack soon
29-11-2011
Lets just get one thing clear though, aside from her multi million dollar upbringing, the fake lips etc..the problem people have is being sold a lie... Lana del rey has been marketed as a diy youtube super star when she is not, she quite openly admitted in an interview she has had a team of lawyers and managers around her for the last five years and they created Lana del rey. This happens a lot no one is saying it doesn't but what is the point of trying to sell yourself as an independent self-styled artist when you are not..this in turn has pissed a lot of people off and has earned her reputation of being a fake and telling lies.

Read this response in the guardian and couldn't agree more.
little-monster
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Cannot wait to hear the final version of the title song and the video too....sounds intriguing.

And i agree we NEED interesting songs in the charts more and more....its slowly coming back that way...i feel 2012 is gonna really push it forward.

Bringing Indie Pop, Electronica, Ambient, Baroque, very vast ranges coming out in popular music i feel....which should make for very interesting top 40 for next year!”

It's great to know that is coming back

I believe Electro pop is dying slowly.
konebyvax
29-11-2011
I've only just noticed - Jarvis Cocker may be the second coolest person in the world according to the NME but you don't have to look too far down the list to get to Lana - she's 6th! Hutchcraft 8th and Helders is 9th, both well deserved.



1. Azealia Banks
2. Jarvis Cocker (Pulp)
3. Honour Titus (Cerebral Ballzy)
4 = Tom Meighan (Kasabian)
4 = Serge Pizzorno (Kasabian)
6. Lana Del Rey
7. Rhys Webb (The Horrors)
8. Theo Hutchcraft (Hurts)
9. Matt Helders (Arctic Monkeys)
10. Ellery Roberts (WU LYF)
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“It's great to know that is coming back

I believe Electro pop is dying slowly.”

So very true...i love that this style is coming back.

ANd yes agreed to finding other genres out there....virtually the past two years the majority of what i have bought are more inependant than commercial Pop artists really.

Like Janelle Monae in 2010 so so very overlooked...her glasto this year just FTW!!!

But i think more attention will be given towards more independant sounding artists, and lesser known genres in popular culture.

So exciting!
If_U_Seek_Amy
29-11-2011
I've been loving this girl for the last 8 months, she is freaking amazing, I would grow a penis for her!

Video Games evokes so many emotions and memories in me, it takes me back to being 15 and spending the 6 weeks of Summer in Toulouse falling in love for the first time with a 19 year old french boy, almost getting caught sunbathing naked, losing my virginity, having my heart broken for the first time when said boy refused to acknowlege me around his friends, getting drunk for the first time, cheating for the first time, being cheated on for the first time, getting back together and then saying goodbye at the end of Summer.

While Marina and the Diamonds speaks to my psycho bitch side, Lana Del Rey speaks to my sultry temptress side...I am loving my female singers with deep voices right now!
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by If_U_Seek_Amy:
“I've been loving this girl for the last 8 months, she is freaking amazing, I would grow a penis for her!

Video Games evokes so many emotions and memories in me, it takes me back to being 15 and spending the 6 weeks of Summer in Toulouse falling in love for the first time with a 19 year old french boy, almost getting caught sunbathing naked, losing my virginity, having my heart broken for the first time when said boy refused to acknowlege me around his friends, getting drunk for the first time, cheating for the first time, being cheated on for the first time, getting back together and then saying goodbye at the end of Summer.

While Marina and the Diamonds speaks to my psycho bitch side, Lana Del Rey speaks to my sultry temptress side...I am loving my female singers with deep voices right now!”

That is a graphically fantastic way for describing what Lana Del Rey makes you feel.

And the absurd thing is that i kinda understand how you feel with that in many respects lol.
konebyvax
29-11-2011
I think that's one of Lana's strengths - her music is so emotive and affecting.


I rarely agree with anything Simon Price writes about, well, anything, basically, but he's summed her up perfectly in this review of her Scala gig.


Quote:
“Twenty-one. That's how many times, consecutively, that I listen to "Video Games" on the way to see Lana Del Rey. It still isn't quite enough.

Sometimes, one song towers over all others as Single of the Year, and 2011 is one of those years. Lana Del Rey's "Video Games", a surprise Top 10 hit three weeks ago, is a stunning piece of "Hollywood sadcore" (her description) which channels the ghosts of Nancy's "Bang Bang", Nico's "These Days" and Dusty's "You Don't Own Me", and has captured countless imaginations, already spawning covers ranging from Bombay Bicycle Club to the bloody awful Kasabian, and some superb remixes.

It's the type of song that comes along twice or thrice a decade, if we're lucky. For a beautifully desolate four minutes 40 seconds, "Video Games" slows life to The Matrix-style "bullet time", so that the world freezes and the only thing moving – at its own elegant pace – is the song. And nothing else matters.

Lana Del Rey is the syncretic pseudonym of one Elizabeth Grant, taking the first name of Lana Turner and the surname from a car: not, one assumes, the boxy 1970s Ford Del Rey but the tail-finned and impossibly stylish 1950s Chevrolet Delray. A 25-year-old American exiled in London, Grant grew up in the dying holiday resort of Lake Placid, the US equivalent of "the seaside town they forgot to close down". Her act is, therefore, both utterly contrived and completely natural: she was reared on faded glitz.

It's the contrivance which bothers many: Del Rey has become a lightning rod for snarky sniping from hateful hipsters, questioning her "authenticity" and sneering at the fact she's had collagen injections to make her lips look like Salvador Dali's sofa. None of which troubles me. Pop is theatre, so inauthentic by its very nature. And body modification is the business of the modified, no one else. But it barely matters: Lana Del Rey is beyond their reach. We have, before us, a true star.

Her vintage aesthetic, encapsulating, to quote one of her lyrics, "the dark side of the American dream", dominates every detail tonight, from her lacquered auburn curls, gold shirt and white slacks to the archive cine film projected on to four big balloons overhead: a funeral at the Hollywood Memorial Park Cemetery, Margot Fonteyn dancing Swan Lake and a tired Elvis Presley massaging the bridge of his nose, with Lana herself craftily edited in at various moments. Tellingly, she doesn't look remotely out of place.

She begins with "China Doll", which boasts the exquisitely self-aware couplet "I even think that I found God in the flashbulbs of your pretty cameras /Am I glamorous, tell me, am I glamorous?" Del Rey sings in a voice that's half Karen on "Superstar", half Stevie on "Sara" (yes, that good). Hers is a voice that knows all there is to know about the crying game. "I feel so alone every Friday night", she sings on the forthcoming single "Born to Die".

There are occasional reminders that this is the 21st century in snatches of street-slang like "you're so dope" and "you da bestest", and the backbeat of tonight's finale "You can be the Boss" proves she's listened to plenty of hip-hop, but her classically jazzy vocal ensures the spell is never broken. Before "Video Games" itself, Lana sighs "OK, let's do this", as though the weight of that song's success is exhausting her. But I'm not tired of it yet. Another 21 times wouldn't be enough.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...r-6264811.html
If_U_Seek_Amy
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“That is a graphically fantastic way for describing what Lana Del Rey makes you feel.

And the absurd thing is that i kinda understand how you feel with that in many respects lol. ”

Lana manages to do what Katy Perry was trying to do with her Teenage Dream album but failed to do so.

She takes me back to the hazy summers of my teens, where everything was done to the extreme, where you live an almost destructive existance just to feel.
jack soon
29-11-2011
I much prefer these punter reviews - they didn't get any backhanders to write theirs.

Lana Del Rey Fan Reviews - Ticketmaster
2 / 5
Lana del Rey was a very disappointing gig
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 08/11/2011
by Bebop1
To begin with, there's no denying she has a great voice but in a gig setting, I absolutely hated it as her performance was so overtly sexual and seemed to be marketed directly at a male audience. Weird.

Review 2 for Lana Del Rey
2 / 5
short changed
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Mar3079
I was really looking forward to this concert. but left feeling short changed and somewhat bemused. Dramatic music with film footage to start, proceeded by an ill-timed fumbling start by the band. Vocals were great, but suspicions of miming during Video Game. Weirdly, the same video footage accompanied every song, featuring Elvis, JFK and horses....bizarre! After 30 minutes Lana announced her last song and rightly commented "I know it's short". Last song sung she then informed us "that's me finished, I don't have an encore, I won'r be back on". I've been to just under 500 concerts, this was by far the shortest. Really like your songs and vocal Lana, but left feeling short changed. As for the repetitive film footage.........?
Favourite moment: When it eventually started
Opening act(s): Seye, talented and entertaining. Check him out!


Review 3 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Anonymous
Wonderful voice but the performance itself was too short and seemed as though she could not get off the stage quick enough. Waste of money.


Review 4 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Didn't show the promise I anticipated
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Glasgowgirl11
Lana's gig was only 30 minutes long,which would be fine if all the songs had been as exceptional as Blue jeans and video games.....but the rest of the set was very forgettable.Shame, I thought she might be something amazing
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by jack soon:
“I much prefer these punter reviews - they didn't get any backhanders to write theirs.

Lana Del Rey Fan Reviews - Ticketmaster
2 / 5
Lana del Rey was a very disappointing gig
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 08/11/2011
by Bebop1
To begin with, there's no denying she has a great voice but in a gig setting, I absolutely hated it as her performance was so overtly sexual and seemed to be marketed directly at a male audience. Weird.

Review 2 for Lana Del Rey
2 / 5
short changed
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Mar3079
I was really looking forward to this concert. but left feeling short changed and somewhat bemused. Dramatic music with film footage to start, proceeded by an ill-timed fumbling start by the band. Vocals were great, but suspicions of miming during Video Game. Weirdly, the same video footage accompanied every song, featuring Elvis, JFK and horses....bizarre! After 30 minutes Lana announced her last song and rightly commented "I know it's short". Last song sung she then informed us "that's me finished, I don't have an encore, I won'r be back on". I've been to just under 500 concerts, this was by far the shortest. Really like your songs and vocal Lana, but left feeling short changed. As for the repetitive film footage.........?
Favourite moment: When it eventually started
Opening act(s): Seye, talented and entertaining. Check him out!


Review 3 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Anonymous
Wonderful voice but the performance itself was too short and seemed as though she could not get off the stage quick enough. Waste of money.


Review 4 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Didn't show the promise I anticipated
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Glasgowgirl11
Lana's gig was only 30 minutes long,which would be fine if all the songs had been as exceptional as Blue jeans and video games.....but the rest of the set was very forgettable.Shame, I thought she might be something amazing”

try hard much???

Everyone gets bad reviews! Jeez


Anyway yes i agree with that Independant statement right there....WOAH i thought Stevie Nicks too...Sara is such a rich song...and Lana NAILS it damn!!

And yeah IUSA....Katy Perry had the whole titilation thing.....but she didnt take you there like Lana is doing now...i mean damn.

It is like a summers past style she has....ugh i need her album in my life!
If_U_Seek_Amy
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“try hard much???

Everyone gets bad reviews! Jeez


Anyway yes i agree with that Independant statement right there....WOAH i thought Stevie Nicks too...Sara is such a rich song...and Lana NAILS it damn!!

And yeah IUSA....Katy Perry had the whole titilation thing.....but she didnt take you there like Lana is doing now...i mean damn.

It is like a summers past style she has....ugh i need her album in my life!”

Understatment of my life.

I'm glad that Lana is dividing people, it means she's provocative.

As for the comments about her vocal style, I absolutely love it, deep voices are making a comeback!
Josh Pinder
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by If_U_Seek_Amy:
“Understatment of my life.

I'm glad that Lana is dividing people, it means she's provocative.

As for the comments about her vocal style, I absolutely love it, deep voices are making a comeback!”

YES! definitely...basically the majority of my favorite artists are provocative and have a divide in opinion and tastes.

Lana should really push forward and make herself really known.....aaaaaaaaaaah i cannot wait!!!!!!!

and yes i love her voice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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