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Lana Del Rey - Born To Die (Album Thread)
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Josh Pinder
30-11-2011
I do have a mini question, may sound silly....but her lips THAT is botox isnt it?

I mean she grew up in NYC so she wasnt ever away from it....but just wanted it confirmed lol.
If_U_Seek_Amy
30-11-2011
Yeah she's totes had them done, no biggie I got mine done about a year ago!
Makson
30-11-2011
Her voice isn't just "deep" though. In fact, it is quite high-pitched in Blue Jeans. But that is another reason I like her with the way she can suddenly switch up her voice without making it sound jarring or weird..it is like "her thing"
kessuki
30-11-2011
heard her sing videogames on jools holland a couple of months back and was in awe and instantly liked the single, but over the past few weeks i got depressed by it until i heard it on last weeks gossip girl episode and it went back up on my playlist. cant wait for the album - i expect it to be good. i also tip Lianne La Havas to make big waves next year with her amazing voice.
konebyvax
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“I do have a mini question, may sound silly....but her lips THAT is botox isnt it?

I mean she grew up in NYC so she wasnt ever away from it....but just wanted it confirmed lol.”


I'm sure she's had them done BUT they do seem to change size regularly and they don't look anything like as big now as when she shot the video games video although Simon Price did describe them as looking like Salvador Dali's sofa! I'm assuming they eventually return to 'normal' if left long enough without further injections?

PS I think it's collagen they inject into lips, not botox? And aren't there certain 'bee sting' cosmetic products that can give the same temporary effect? Not that I'm in any way an expert on the subject, this is all from Mrs Konebyvax
jack soon
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by jack soon:
“I much prefer these punter reviews - they didn't get any backhanders to write theirs.

Lana Del Rey Fan Reviews - Ticketmaster
2 / 5
Lana del Rey was a very disappointing gig
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 08/11/2011
by Bebop1
To begin with, there's no denying she has a great voice but in a gig setting, I absolutely hated it as her performance was so overtly sexual and seemed to be marketed directly at a male audience. Weird.

Review 2 for Lana Del Rey
2 / 5
short changed
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Mar3079
I was really looking forward to this concert. but left feeling short changed and somewhat bemused. Dramatic music with film footage to start, proceeded by an ill-timed fumbling start by the band. Vocals were great, but suspicions of miming during Video Game. Weirdly, the same video footage accompanied every song, featuring Elvis, JFK and horses....bizarre! After 30 minutes Lana announced her last song and rightly commented "I know it's short". Last song sung she then informed us "that's me finished, I don't have an encore, I won'r be back on". I've been to just under 500 concerts, this was by far the shortest. Really like your songs and vocal Lana, but left feeling short changed. As for the repetitive film footage.........?
Favourite moment: When it eventually started
Opening act(s): Seye, talented and entertaining. Check him out!


Review 3 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Anonymous
Wonderful voice but the performance itself was too short and seemed as though she could not get off the stage quick enough. Waste of money.


Review 4 for Lana Del Rey
1 / 5
Didn't show the promise I anticipated
Oran Mor
- Glasgow
- Sat 5 Nov 2011
Posted 07/11/2011
by Glasgowgirl11
Lana's gig was only 30 minutes long,which would be fine if all the songs had been as exceptional as Blue jeans and video games.....but the rest of the set was very forgettable.Shame, I thought she might be something amazing”

Originally Posted by If_U_Seek_Amy:
“Understatment of my life.

I'm glad that Lana is dividing people, it means she's provocative.

As for the comments about her vocal style, I absolutely love it, deep voices are making a comeback!”

She's not exactly dividing people at her live shows. There are only 4 reviews for this show and they are all crap.

As for the folk debating the authenticity of her pouty lips (temporary effect?? - really??). Words fail me - maybe that's why they can tolerate the phoniness about her.
gav016
30-11-2011
I suddenly feel slightly less gutted about missing the Glasgow gig, but my friends that went claimed to have loved it, despite it being short.

This might be a ridiculous question, but given that the supposed release date is just 2 months away, do we have any idea of a tracklist?
konebyvax
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by gav016:
“I suddenly feel slightly less gutted about missing the Glasgow gig, but my friends that went claimed to have loved it, despite it being short.

This might be a ridiculous question, but given that the supposed release date is just 2 months away, do we have any idea of a tracklist?”


No, I'm afraid, although I really don't think it will be released when they say it will (surely she won't have time with all the touring). It was apparently originally planned to release it much later in 2012 but Interscope have decided to bring it forward I'm sure due to the unexpected success of Video Games. I would imagine the songs she sang on her UK tour (8, I think, in an understandably short set, lol, but the tickets were only £10!) have a good chance of being on the album:

Video Games
Blue Jeans
China Doll
Million Dollar Man
You Can Be The Boss
Radio
Off To The Races
Born To Die

There are live recordings of all of them on youtube and You Can Be The Boss has an official video on there.
little-monster
30-11-2011
Wow her gigs are getting awful reviews
That really isn't very good. It's live shows that pay the bills and actually earn you respect as an artist.
gav016
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“No, I'm afraid, although I really don't think it will be released when they say it will (surely she won't have time with all the touring). It was apparently originally planned to release it much later in 2012 but Interscope have decided to bring it forward I'm sure due to the unexpected success of Video Games. I would imagine the songs she sang on her UK tour (8, I think, in an understandably short set, lol, but the tickets were only £10!) have a good chance of being on the album:

Video Games
Blue Jeans
China Doll
Million Dollar Man
You Can Be The Boss
Radio
Off To The Races
Born To Die

There are live recordings of all of them on youtube and You Can Be The Boss has an official video on there.”

Ahh, excellent, thank you! Having only heard Blue Jeans, Video Games, Diet Mtn Dew & You Can Be The Boss before, this'll be really interesting to listen to.

And yeah, I agree, I'm pretty sceptical of a January release date, unless it's pretty much recorded/mixed already?
konebyvax
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by gav016:
“Ahh, excellent, thank you! Having only heard Blue Jeans, Video Games, Diet Mtn Dew & You Can Be The Boss before, this'll be really interesting to listen to.

And yeah, I agree, I'm pretty sceptical of a January release date, unless it's pretty much recorded/mixed already?”


Put aside a whole day! There are loads of her old songs on there and they are well worth checking out! My personal favourite at the moment is Pawn Shop Blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56JBatEumGo
dicky123
30-11-2011
I think the test of a classic song is when even the inevitable plethora of bad cover versions uploaded on YouTube still sound magnificent
dicky123
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by dicky123:
“I think the test of a classic song is when even the inevitable plethora of bad cover versions uploaded on YouTube still sound magnificent ”

Video Games, I mean! This one made me smile. The cheeky change of 'big kiss' to 'big lips'!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmHNqLHVsY
Last edited by dicky123 : 30-11-2011 at 12:55
Makson
30-11-2011
I'd prefer to pay 10 quid for a short but great gig rather than fork out the same amount to see some X Factor reject belt out awful covers for the same period of time.
jack soon
30-11-2011
Totally agree with you but the problem is the gig wasn't good - overtly sexual - only 2 songs - boring repetitive background being a few of the comments made. And as to comparing Lizzie Grant to the X factor contestants , much as I hate the show, as daddy's little rich kid with this second stab at a singing career being delivered to her on a plate she somehow makes them seem less contrived in comparison.
If_U_Seek_Amy
30-11-2011
I don't see how Lana Del Rey is contrived at all. Nearly everyone in the music industry has had to change things up to get signed and sometimes that's for the best.

Lana said that when she sang like a "normal" popstar no one cared, she went away and found her niche, she lowered her voice and changed her look (what 20 something doesn't have a new look every few years) which appropriately suited her new vocal style.

What you'll find is that she probably faced the same problem that Brandon Flowers found with The Killers when they were trying to be signed. Brandon said that The Killers naively went round labels as an unpolished rough group with only a vague idea of what they wanted to be assuming that the labels would help them find their sound and image. After they were turned away from all the labels he realised that what labels wanted were bands that were fully formed and ready, so they went off and found their sound, fashioned their image and went back and were signed, most of the material from Hot Fuss were songs they wrote to get signed. This is what happened to Lana Del Rey, she found no one in the industry was interested so she went off and improved herself.

Marina and the Diamonds put it perfectly, she was on Radio 1 and was asked what advice would she give to someone struggling to get signed, she said if you're struggling to get signed than you're probably not that good and you need to go away find what works for you, improve your songwriting, singing, performing style etc and then go back and try again. She said she struggled for years to get signed because she simply wasn't that good, she then found her niche (deep voice coupled with operatic highs - not that dissimilar to Lana) and she got signed.
Josh Pinder
30-11-2011
I full on cannot wait for the tracklist...should be soon.

I love her so much...and Collagen is for lips yes lol...botox! shows how much i know!!! But yeah i think it adds to the Surreal Disney look she has.

And who cares about a few bad reviews...she also has praise en masse!

But idc....i cannot wait and hope she tours the UK!!!
konebyvax
30-11-2011
Well, given that she lives here most of the time I reckon a UK tour in 2012 is on the cards. But don't expect it to be at venues like Oran Mor (capacity: 400), Ruby Lounge (350) or Birmingham Institute Library (600)! Those days are already long gone, I suspect.
Josh Pinder
30-11-2011
YES well she better i would love to see ehr....i wonder if she will play South Westerly (hint hint!)

And so true about her higher notes and range...she has a softer vocal as well as her deeper range too.

I love that!
konebyvax
01-12-2011
A bit of news: the new single Born To Die is apparently having its first airing on Fearne Cotton's Radio 1 show this Friday! Ms Cotton has described is as epic and spine tingling but it has a beat this time!
If_U_Seek_Amy
01-12-2011
How long until the video? I swear someone posted that she said it was a few days away but that was about a week ago. I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE!!!

Seriously this girl is my new crack!
Josh Pinder
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“A bit of news: the new single Born To Die is apparently having its first airing on Fearne Cotton's Radio 1 show this Friday! Ms Cotton has described is as epic and spine tingling but it has a beat this time!”

AAAAAAAAAAH i will be listening! Cannot wait for it.

AAAAAAH!!!! I alwas hear her show...always catch the end of Moyles and catch Fearnes ESPECIALLY the live lounges.

OOOH i hope Lana does some lounges for promo!
pmw_hewitt
01-12-2011
I think this is the problem with "internet sensations". I didn't think I would like her, but I really do, I'm really excited about her, but her act is clearly not prepared for this amount of expectation and scrutiny. In a few months she's gone from obscure but promising act with a few good songs to a rather large fanbase, and she's lost a lot of time to grow and improve organically in the process, and I truly hope that doesn't ruin her.

People complaining about her short set are being somewhat harsh for this reason.
konebyvax
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by pmw_hewitt:
“I think this is the problem with "internet sensations". I didn't think I would like her, but I really do, I'm really excited about her, but her act is clearly not prepared for this amount of expectation and scrutiny. In a few months she's gone from obscure but promising act with a few good songs to a rather large fanbase, and she's lost a lot of time to grow and improve organically in the process, and I truly hope that doesn't ruin her.

People complaining about her short set are being somewhat harsh for this reason.”



I agree, it's sink or swim time. Arctic Monkeys had an unarguably even more meteoric internet-led rise and they haven't exactly disappeared!
3 $pirit
01-12-2011
I find her songs (well 2 ive heard) to be pretty dreary and boring. Come back Adele all is forgiven!
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