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Misha B - They don't get it do they?
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Reem2011
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bob Evans:
“I doubt the producers want Misha she is the least likely to sell Albums and she can forget touring unless it is a small local club,”

Trust me Misha B will have a fanbase outside x factor you watch!
SAFIAH
27-11-2011
Misha is still in the show and deserves to be as vocally she is one of the best vocalists

The public can be very fickle and I believe the whole bullygate thing has effected mishas vote

She prob won't win but that does not matter she will be signed after the show

Janet deserved to go she was the weakest vocalist and forgetting her lyrics twice is not on

Her sing off tonight was her best vocal performance
lhme65
27-11-2011
They do usually reach a point though where the judges say that someone has been in the bottom two enough times that obviously the public just aren't taking to them and so they have to let them go. Apparently they're not willing to go there this year.
Vena
27-11-2011
I've never seen such sour grapes!
rivercity_rules
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“This aint no popularity contest you FOOL! Misha B did the best performances along side Amelia yesterday! FACT! ”

It is exactly a popularity contest. Hence why it's on Saturday night and based on 35p phone votes, not musical talent or ability to sell records (ie least iTunes buys = elimination)

It's all the old grannies watching and picking their favourites as well as the delusional ones who think this is a genuine music show.

It's mindless, light entertainment and nothing more.
tawe
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“The fact Misha only gets saved through pity doesn't seem to have reached the Judges yet.

"Sell albums, sell out arenas" =Misha? She can't even get enough people to spend 36p on her, never mind £40!

Throw in how tough her childhood (of bullying classmates) was and she'll get a few extra pity votes, but people don't buy music through pity.”

How very true . And If people wont vote for her they are not going to want to see her or buy her records
Moomin STFC
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by SAFIAH:
“Misha is still in the show and deserves to be as vocally she is one of the best vocalists

The public can be very fickle and I believe the whole bullygate thing has effected mishas vote

She prob won't win but that does not matter she will be signed after the show

Janet deserved to go she was the weakest vocalist and forgetting her lyrics twice is not on

Her sing off tonight was her best vocal performance”

Totally agree
Vena
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by cedee10:
“She's better than Janet, she will go next week. Case closed.”

Hold your horses - there are loads out here who are not very vocal on the forums and who haven't started to vote yet - me for instance. And I'm voting Misha B.
Every week she puts on a stupendous performance, doesn't forget the words and listens to the advice from more experienced performers. The judges were right to save the better performer every time.
CustardCreamed
27-11-2011
I felt a bit sorry for Misha this eve, as she was standing there, just a chubby little girl, waiting in vain again for her name to be called out.
She's very much the underdog, in spite of her talent, and she desperately wants this.
At least she wasn't sent home - that would have been a travesty.
justmise
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by lhme65:
“They do usually reach a point though where the judges say that someone has been in the bottom two enough times that obviously the public just aren't taking to them and so they have to let them go. Apparently they're not willing to go there this year.”

If my memory is sorta working..... the judges kept Cher Lloyd in when she was in the bottom two and it was clear the voting public didn't take to her. Afterwards the voting figures showed that Mary Byrne was well ahead of Cher in the voting when the judges sent her home. Perhaps the change of judges doesn't mean the pattern changes.....
Sun Tzu.
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bear Trader:
“You are a bit slow, who says they keep contestants because they think they are going to win. All these years people watch XF and they still dont have a clue why and how this show works.

Do we have any posters who are actually aware how this show works?”

So why keep her in though? She isn't going to win and Janet would have brought more money in from people voting for her. Misha B though isn't popular and doesn't bring the money in.
Since Yesterday
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Mateja:
“She is still a better singer than Janet. It's not about winning.”

The show isn't called Technically The Best Vocalist Factor. Otherwise the entire concept is utterly pointless, because there are plenty of 'belters' around already. Janet quite obviously couldn't outsing Misha, or even outperform her. As Jessie J essentially said on Xtra, Janet would work best on a smaller stage, sat on a stool, surrounded by a small group of musicians playing acoustically. Music isn't about being the best vocalist. It's about the way an act interprets a song. The likes of Johnny Cash, Shane MacGowan, Bob Dylan, etc can bring people to tears with their songs. Give Beyonce Fairytale of New York, The Times They Are a-Changin' or Hurt and see how that pans out.

Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“This aint no popularity contest you FOOL! Misha B did the best performances along side Amelia yesterday! FACT! ”

That's opinion, not fact. (In my opinion) Misha was bottom two with Marcus, based on last night's performances.
whoyouarexo
27-11-2011
Misha would do better to of gone tonight...shes been in the bottom 2 three times now, against Sophie, against Janet, against Kitty..three other female singers, 2 from the same category.

Shes better off getting out there, doing some interviews to try and rectify all these stupid headlines, and starting to work on her own stuff..shes got so much potential she doesn't need the XF anymore, and the more it doesn't go to deadlock the more bitter people there will be!
LondonAngel
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Since Yesterday:
“The show isn't called Technically The Best Vocalist Factor. Otherwise the entire concept is utterly pointless, because there are plenty of 'belters' around already. Janet quite obviously couldn't outsing Misha, or even outperform her. As Jessie J essentially said on Xtra, Janet would work best on a smaller stage, sat on a stool, surrounded by a small group of musicians playing acoustically. Music isn't about being the best vocalist. It's about the way an act interprets a song. The likes of Johnny Cash, Shane MacGowan, Bob Dylan, etc can bring people to tears with their songs. Give Beyonce Fairytale of New York, The Times They Are a-Changin' or Hurt and see how that pans out.

That's opinion, not fact. (In my opinion) Misha was bottom two with Marcus, based on last night's performances.”

You are seriously saying that you would have put Janet's bad performances last night above Marcus and Misha? Really? Hand on heart? Ok...
ForGodsSake
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“She isn't liked and won't win. Why keep her in? She is pointless”

It's about the X factor.
Misha has it, janet doesn't.
I think that's what the judges saw.
Since Yesterday
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by LondonAngel:
“You are seriously saying that you would have put Janet's bad performances last night above Marcus and Misha? Really? Hand on heart? Ok...”

I still haven't seen her first, because I didn't get home until 8.15. But Misha had tuning issues during both songs, and particularly the second. And Marcus picked two incredibly cheesy songs, as well as being completely off key during his second. So yes, I'd put her second above both of theirs. And by the way - if you're expecting a reasoned answer to your question, loading it with personal bias isn't likely to be particularly persuasive.
Bob Evans
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“It's about the X factor.
Misha has it, janet doesn't.
I think that's what the judges saw.”


Misha clearly does not have it. She is in he bottomthree week after week so she is hardly popular. She has a resonable singing voice but is far from outstanding . She cannot perform though and fails to seell her performances to the viewers
Boxfresh
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bob Evans:
“Misha clearly does not have it. She is in he bottomthree week after week so she is hardly popular. She has a resonable singing voice but is far from outstanding . She cannot perform though and fails to seell her performances to the viewers”

LOL!

What do the viewers/voting audience know about the "X-Factor"?

Look at who they've allowed to win the show...Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Joe McEdlerry, Matt Cardle.

Misha has more of the "X-Factor", than at least 4 previous winners put together. It's not about whom the X-Factor voting public like. It's about who is capable of sustaining a real career, in the real industry. And that's Misha B. Anyone who know how the music industry actually works knows that. The public usually get it wrong, and it's no different this time.
LondonAngel
27-11-2011
Originally Posted by Since Yesterday:
“I still haven't seen her first, because I didn't get home until 8.15. But Misha had tuning issues during both songs, and particularly the second. And Marcus picked two incredibly cheesy songs, as well as being completely off key during his second. So yes, I'd put her second above both of theirs. And by the way - if you're expecting a reasoned answer to your question, loading it with personal bias isn't likely to be particularly persuasive.”

Ok - you need to see her first performance before you can then hand on heart say she was better last night than the other two singers. And just so you know, me saying Janet was the weakest last night is not just personal bias as I actually really like her - my opinion is based purely on all of her performances last night. And by the way, I believe Amelia gave the best perfomances last night.
Since Yesterday
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by LondonAngel:
“Ok - you need to see her first performance before you can then hand on heart say she was better last night than the other two singers. And just so you know, me saying Janet was the weakest last night is not just personal bias as I actually really like her - my opinion is based purely on all of her performances last night. And by the way, I believe Amelia gave the best perfomances last night.”

No, I really don't. She forgot her words, and they both sang out of tune. The latter is no more defensible than the former. The difference is that she came out and really went for it with her second performance. I prefer her voice when she's more vulnerable, like she was during her audition and on the early live shows. But there was a power to her vocals we've not seen before on Saturday evening, which to me says she was prepared to fight and try to redress the balance as much as she could. The other two were perhaps complacent, in light of some quite undeserved pimping following their first performances. So even if her first performance had been the worst in the show's entire history, what she did during the second more than made up for it.

I didn't enjoy either of their first performances, anyway. I thought Barlow trying to cash in on George Michael's illness during his introduction for Marcus was incredibly cheap, as was Marcus trying to guilt trip Craig's supporters into voting for him in the VT. And on top of that, it's an absolutely terrible song. For Misha, I didn't like the arrangement and could get by just fine without ever hearing that song again (other than perhaps Cyndi's original '83 version, on a girls' night out).

Putting the word "bad" in the question is indeed biased, because you're basically telling me what I should think rather than asking me what I do think. But at least we're in agreement as far as Amelia is concerned.
Sun Tzu.
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Boxfresh:
“LOL!

What do the viewers/voting audience know about the "X-Factor"?

Look at who they've allowed to win the show...Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Joe McEdlerry, Matt Cardle.

Misha has more of the "X-Factor", than at least 4 previous winners put together. It's not about whom the X-Factor voting public like. It's about who is capable of sustaining a real career, in the real industry. And that's Misha B. Anyone who know how the music industry actually works knows that. The public usually get it wrong, and it's no different this time.”

Don't get this hype with Misha B. She isn't that great.
ellenpagerocks
28-11-2011
Misha was far better in the sing off
MikePJB
28-11-2011
The thing is the public clearly can't be trusted when it comes to voting. They all know that Misha is the only one who actually has a chance in the real world.
Sheechiibii
28-11-2011
Because they think it'll get people talking? Like Kaitie last year. Well they're right about talking, but I won't be watching next year. Why watch a show as fixed as this? Who would vote after this year (second year in a row) I have no idea - someone could be getting the lowest votes every week and as long as the producers want them there they'll keep them there.

Xx..xX
MikePJB
28-11-2011
The thing with Katie was is that she was actually bad and not liked (getting boos). Misha isn't hated like that. I don't think this will really get people talking either as the genuinely more talent person stayed.
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