It really can't be justified that Janet should have stayed over Misha...honestly she forgot song lyrics twice plus she said she was feeling sick, when in fact she admitted that she DID forget the lyrics a few moments before voting lines are closed...even I didn't fall for that act. Feel her time was up a few weeks back, when her floorfillers song was a disaster and going by the negative moods she had, it was best that she was the one who left tonite, not Misha!!
Misha B - They don't get it do they?
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Originally Posted by MikePJB:
“The thing with Katie was is that she was actually bad and not liked (getting boos). Misha isn't hated like that. I don't think this will really get people talking either as the genuinely more talent person stayed.”
“The thing with Katie was is that she was actually bad and not liked (getting boos). Misha isn't hated like that. I don't think this will really get people talking either as the genuinely more talent person stayed.”
Misha is actually bad. Misha is actually disliked, hence why she's been in the bottom...? They booed her tonight when Janet was put out. And people are talking about it now, someone phoned in about it on Xtra Factor. It's getting people talking or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Originally Posted by TomGrant:
“Of course it's about winning, what would the point of the show be otherwise?!”
“Of course it's about winning, what would the point of the show be otherwise?!”
Thing is though, X Factor winners haven't been that successfull.
Olly Murs and Jedward - far more successful than the so called "winners" who released one album that failed to chart and were promptly dropped.
Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“Misha is actually bad. Misha is actually disliked, hence why she's been in the bottom...? They booed her tonight when Janet was put out. And people are talking about it now, someone phoned in about it on Xtra Factor. It's getting people talking or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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“Misha is actually bad. Misha is actually disliked, hence why she's been in the bottom...? They booed her tonight when Janet was put out. And people are talking about it now, someone phoned in about it on Xtra Factor. It's getting people talking or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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I don't feel there was the same outrage when Katie kept getting through. Misha actually has talent so she has a right to be there. People on here were also saying Janet got booed last night when they called out the numbers. I remember phone calls on Xtra Factor with people saying Janet was bad, even the guests were saying they're worried for her. Maybe it's just me but I don't see this a shock.
Originally Posted by MD1500:
“Thing is though, X Factor winners haven't been that successfull.
Olly Murs and Jedward - far more successful than the so called "winners" who released one album that failed to chart and were promptly dropped.”
“Thing is though, X Factor winners haven't been that successfull.
Olly Murs and Jedward - far more successful than the so called "winners" who released one album that failed to chart and were promptly dropped.”
Jedward's not more successfull than any of the winners, apart from maybe Steve. And Olly hasn't been around long enough to judge really, he's done better than Steve and Leon but not really anyone else.
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I think they do maybe you and others dont. They dont want her to win they know she can't. They just want her to stay as long as possible to show they supported her
Originally Posted by MikePJB:
“I don't feel there was the same outrage when Katie kept getting through. Misha actually has talent so she has a right to be there. People on here were also saying Janet got booed last night when they called out the numbers. I remember phone calls on Xtra Factor with people saying Janet was bad, even the guests were saying they're worried for her. Maybe it's just me but I don't see this a shock.”
“I don't feel there was the same outrage when Katie kept getting through. Misha actually has talent so she has a right to be there. People on here were also saying Janet got booed last night when they called out the numbers. I remember phone calls on Xtra Factor with people saying Janet was bad, even the guests were saying they're worried for her. Maybe it's just me but I don't see this a shock.”
no there was definitely more hatred for katie wassiel
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“no there was definitely more hatred for katie wassiel”
“no there was definitely more hatred for katie wassiel”
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I don't feel it's a shock that Misha is still here, it was a shock when Katie got through because she was hated and not very good.
Originally Posted by MikePJB:
“Yeah that's what I'm saying. I don't feel it's a shock that Misha is still here, it was a shock when Katie got through because she was hated and not very good.”
“Yeah that's what I'm saying. I don't feel it's a shock that Misha is still here, it was a shock when Katie got through because she was hated and not very good.”
oh ok. Yeh they were blatantly fixing it for her to progress ahead of better performers. It's nothing like Misha
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
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"Sell albums, sell out arenas" =Misha? She can't even get enough people to spend 36p on her, never mind £40!
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"Sell albums, sell out arenas" =Misha? She can't even get enough people to spend 36p on her, never mind £40!
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neither could janet - otherwise why was she in the bottom 2?
Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“Misha is actually bad. Misha is actually disliked, hence why she's been in the bottom...? They booed her tonight when Janet was put out. And people are talking about it now, someone phoned in about it on Xtra Factor. It's getting people talking or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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“Misha is actually bad. Misha is actually disliked, hence why she's been in the bottom...? They booed her tonight when Janet was put out. And people are talking about it now, someone phoned in about it on Xtra Factor. It's getting people talking or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Misha isnt hated by all?
janet is disliked by all my friends.....just for the record.
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“Misha isnt hated by all?
janet is disliked by all my friends.....just for the record.”
“Misha isnt hated by all?
janet is disliked by all my friends.....just for the record.”
I don't know anyone who has ever liked Misha. But your argument doesn't stand anyway, she's just like Kaitie, can't sing, isn't liked, but is put through anyway.
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“oh ok. Yeh they were blatantly fixing it for her to progress ahead of better performers. It's nothing like Misha”
“oh ok. Yeh they were blatantly fixing it for her to progress ahead of better performers. It's nothing like Misha”
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic
Misha is the worst left in the competiton, she's been the worst for a long time, hence her being in the bottom two 3 times. It was the same with Kaitie, she was the worst and least liked. I don't know why they do this, it makes no sense to me. Maybe they think it will attract viewers. It won't, it's putting them off.
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Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“I don't know anyone who has ever liked Misha. But your argument doesn't stand anyway, she's just like Kaitie, can't sing, isn't liked, but is put through anyway.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic
Misha is the worst left in the competiton, she's been the worst for a long time, hence her being in the bottom two 3 times. It was the same with Kaitie, she was the worst and least liked. I don't know why they do this, it makes no sense to me. Maybe they think it will attract viewers. It won't, it's putting them off.
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“I don't know anyone who has ever liked Misha. But your argument doesn't stand anyway, she's just like Kaitie, can't sing, isn't liked, but is put through anyway.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic
Misha is the worst left in the competiton, she's been the worst for a long time, hence her being in the bottom two 3 times. It was the same with Kaitie, she was the worst and least liked. I don't know why they do this, it makes no sense to me. Maybe they think it will attract viewers. It won't, it's putting them off.
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yeh you're wrong. She's been in the bottom two mostly for other reasons.. bullying rumours, attitude blah blah. She definitley hasn't been the worst vocalist at any stage of the competion. She can sing
Wassiel was horrid
Originally Posted by Boxfresh:
“LOL!
What do the viewers/voting audience know about the "X-Factor"?
Look at who they've allowed to win the show...Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Joe McEdlerry, Matt Cardle.
Misha has more of the "X-Factor", than at least 4 previous winners put together. It's not about whom the X-Factor voting public like. It's about who is capable of sustaining a real career, in the real industry. And that's Misha B. Anyone who know how the music industry actually works knows that. The public usually get it wrong, and it's no different this time.”
“LOL!
What do the viewers/voting audience know about the "X-Factor"?
Look at who they've allowed to win the show...Steve Brookstein, Leon Jackson, Joe McEdlerry, Matt Cardle.
Misha has more of the "X-Factor", than at least 4 previous winners put together. It's not about whom the X-Factor voting public like. It's about who is capable of sustaining a real career, in the real industry. And that's Misha B. Anyone who know how the music industry actually works knows that. The public usually get it wrong, and it's no different this time.”
Theres nothing wrong with Matt Cardle..ok he hasn't brought out a album as quickly as Cher/One Direction, but the stuff he has done, is great stuff for the market hes directed at...I was a Matt Cardle voter last year and I stand by that vote!
(I do agree about Steve, Leon, and Joe though)
The British public don't like Misha because she hasn't had a journey, she hasn't had a extremely emotional performance, shes not a nervous wreck.
Little Mix have had a journey, Marcus has had a journey, but the problem with Misha is shes at the standard where shes already come in with a known market, known style, known influences, and she doesn't really need to have a journey because she came in on the top of her game (if that makes sense)
I think the public not taking to her is a combo of things
In my opinion, although shes always strong, shes never the best about the night, the most talked about
The headlines, alot of floaters/emotionally driven voters (trust me, there are lots, there is a reason why tesco mary got as far as she did) would be put off by that
Apart from last week with her mum, shes never had any emotionally driven VTs, she doesn't have a sob story
This doesn't mean Mishas bad or doesn't have the XF, it just means shes not suited to win this show, and its good in a way because she would be better going in the same direction as Cher Lloyd, going out on a high and doing her own thing...contradicting my point above, Cher came out 4th, and shes done pretty well for herself!
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“yeh you're wrong. She's been in the bottom two mostly for other reasons.. bullying rumours, attitude blah blah. She definitley hasn't been the worst vocalist at any stage of the competion. She can sing
Wassiel was horrid”
“yeh you're wrong. She's been in the bottom two mostly for other reasons.. bullying rumours, attitude blah blah. She definitley hasn't been the worst vocalist at any stage of the competion. She can sing
Wassiel was horrid”
That is the excuses the fans make up because they don't want to face that her voice is not that great and most people find her annoying or plain awful. I don't know anyone who likes her voice, or has ever liked her voice. It makes me cringe. It's got nothing to do with the allegations about her, although they're certainly nobody's fault but her own. She chose to bully. And if it does then you could say exactly the same thing about Kaitie, her theatrics and acting were what made people dislike her, nothing to do with the fact they both have horrid voices.
Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“That is the excuses the fans make up because they don't want to face that her voice is not that great and most people find her annoying or plain awful. I don't know anyone who likes her voice, or has ever liked her voice. It makes me cringe. It's got nothing to do with the allegations about her, although they're certainly nobody's fault but her own. She chose to bully.”
“That is the excuses the fans make up because they don't want to face that her voice is not that great and most people find her annoying or plain awful. I don't know anyone who likes her voice, or has ever liked her voice. It makes me cringe. It's got nothing to do with the allegations about her, although they're certainly nobody's fault but her own. She chose to bully.”
Im not a massive Misha fan but her vocals are undeniable..its probably a matter of opinion but she can sing, theres no doubt about that!
Originally Posted by whoyouarexo:
“Im not a massive Misha fan but her vocals are undeniable..its probably a matter of opinion but she can sing, theres no doubt about that!”
“Im not a massive Misha fan but her vocals are undeniable..its probably a matter of opinion but she can sing, theres no doubt about that!”
Yes it is down to a matter of opinion, I agree. But most people don't like her voice or she wouldn't be in the bottom more than anyone else in the competition. Yet she's kept in instead of someone who's never been in the bottom before. Ridiculous. Exactly like Kaitie last year and them doing this again has put me off, after this year I will be watching The Voice, not this fixed crap.
Originally Posted by whoyouarexo:
“Theres nothing wrong with Matt Cardle..ok he hasn't brought out a album as quickly as Cher/One Direction, but the stuff he has done, is great stuff for the market hes directed at...I was a Matt Cardle voter last year and I stand by that vote!
(I do agree about Steve, Leon, and Joe though)
The British public don't like Misha because she hasn't had a journey, she hasn't had a extremely emotional performance, shes not a nervous wreck.
Little Mix have had a journey, Marcus has had a journey, but the problem with Misha is shes at the standard where shes already come in with a known market, known style, known influences, and she doesn't really need to have a journey because she came in on the top of her game (if that makes sense)
I think the public not taking to her is a combo of things
In my opinion, although shes always strong, shes never the best about the night, the most talked about
The headlines, alot of floaters/emotionally driven voters (trust me, there are lots, there is a reason why tesco mary got as far as she did) would be put off by that
Apart from last week with her mum, shes never had any emotionally driven VTs, she doesn't have a sob story
This doesn't mean Mishas bad or doesn't have the XF, it just means shes not suited to win this show, and its good in a way because she would be better going in the same direction as Cher Lloyd, going out on a high and doing her own thing...contradicting my point above, Cher came out 4th, and shes done pretty well for herself!”
“Theres nothing wrong with Matt Cardle..ok he hasn't brought out a album as quickly as Cher/One Direction, but the stuff he has done, is great stuff for the market hes directed at...I was a Matt Cardle voter last year and I stand by that vote!
(I do agree about Steve, Leon, and Joe though)
The British public don't like Misha because she hasn't had a journey, she hasn't had a extremely emotional performance, shes not a nervous wreck.
Little Mix have had a journey, Marcus has had a journey, but the problem with Misha is shes at the standard where shes already come in with a known market, known style, known influences, and she doesn't really need to have a journey because she came in on the top of her game (if that makes sense)
I think the public not taking to her is a combo of things
In my opinion, although shes always strong, shes never the best about the night, the most talked about
The headlines, alot of floaters/emotionally driven voters (trust me, there are lots, there is a reason why tesco mary got as far as she did) would be put off by that
Apart from last week with her mum, shes never had any emotionally driven VTs, she doesn't have a sob story
This doesn't mean Mishas bad or doesn't have the XF, it just means shes not suited to win this show, and its good in a way because she would be better going in the same direction as Cher Lloyd, going out on a high and doing her own thing...contradicting my point above, Cher came out 4th, and shes done pretty well for herself!”
How does anyone else in the competition have a journey but Misha? She's the only one who's had a sob story, the only one!
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Originally Posted by MikePJB:
“I don't feel there was the same outrage when Katie kept getting through. Misha actually has talent so she has a right to be there.”
“I don't feel there was the same outrage when Katie kept getting through. Misha actually has talent so she has a right to be there.”
There was, and Katie was basically hated from the start because:
a) She couldn't remember her lyrics through most of the audition stage
b) She was picked above The Sainted Gamu.
Misha has often been the best performer on the show this year (although I'd say she's dipped as it has gone on) - but she suffers from the 'bully' angle and that she's a terrible interview.
Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“That is the excuses the fans make up because they don't want to face that her voice is not that great and most people find her annoying or plain awful. I don't know anyone who likes her voice, or has ever liked her voice. It makes me cringe. It's got nothing to do with the allegations about her, although they're certainly nobody's fault but her own. She chose to bully. And if it does then you could say exactly the same thing about Kaitie, her theatrics and acting were what made people dislike her, nothing to do with the fact they both have horrid voices.”
“That is the excuses the fans make up because they don't want to face that her voice is not that great and most people find her annoying or plain awful. I don't know anyone who likes her voice, or has ever liked her voice. It makes me cringe. It's got nothing to do with the allegations about her, although they're certainly nobody's fault but her own. She chose to bully. And if it does then you could say exactly the same thing about Kaitie, her theatrics and acting were what made people dislike her, nothing to do with the fact they both have horrid voices.”
I'm not a fan. I don't think she has a great voice but its never been the worst or second worst
I dont see why her voice would make anyone cringe. That sounds ridiculous.
Katie was a completely different thing. She couldn't sing at all, forget her words more than once, was obviously fake and fame hungry and was getting pimp slots and saved in botom twos constantly against better singers.
The fixing they did for her was on a whole different level.
Misha was a better singer than sophie. Better than Janet. It's no great injustice she was saved over them
Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“Yes it is down to a matter of opinion, I agree. But most people don't like her voice or she wouldn't be in the bottom more than anyone else in the competition. Yet she's kept in instead of someone who's never been in the bottom before. Ridiculous. Exactly like Kaitie last year and them doing this again has put me off, after this year I will be watching The Voice, not this fixed crap.
How does anyone else in the competition have a journey but Misha? She's the only one who's had a sob story, the only one!
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“Yes it is down to a matter of opinion, I agree. But most people don't like her voice or she wouldn't be in the bottom more than anyone else in the competition. Yet she's kept in instead of someone who's never been in the bottom before. Ridiculous. Exactly like Kaitie last year and them doing this again has put me off, after this year I will be watching The Voice, not this fixed crap.
How does anyone else in the competition have a journey but Misha? She's the only one who's had a sob story, the only one!
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I don't think shes in the bottom 2 because of her voice though, I really don't. Again like you said it is opinion, but I think its definitely more of a case of her performances not emoting as well as some of the others at this stage, and not motivating people to vote for her.
And I don't mean that sort of journey, I mean sort of for instance
Little Mix, they've had to gel as a band, really come together and identify group weaknesses and strengths, Jesy in particular has struggled with comments and this has been shown, and their performances have gradually got better, and better, until they had the standout moment with ET which really put them on the map to win
Marcus, has always been great, but has consistently been egged on to give that big performance, aswell as the fact that Frankie has consistently had miles more press then him, and Craig aswell..he always does big energetic numbers, and has also had that stand out moment a couple of weeks back, and he also has a very public-friendly persona, very bubbly, someone that will really appeal to the audience personality wise, because alot of his personalitys been shown.
In Mishas case, I don't thinks shes had a journey, a standout moment, I think shes been pretty much across the board good, but never the best of the night, and she doesn't create controversy that gets people to vote for her, sort of like Frankie, Kitty sometimes, in these past few weeks Janet, and I think thats letting her down.
Originally Posted by Ultra Magnus:
“There was, and Katie was basically hated from the start because:
a) She couldn't remember her lyrics through most of the audition stage
b) She was picked above The Sainted Gamu.
Misha has often been the best performer on the show this year (although I'd say she's dipped as it has gone on) - but she suffers from the 'bully' angle and that she's a terrible interview.”
“There was, and Katie was basically hated from the start because:
a) She couldn't remember her lyrics through most of the audition stage
b) She was picked above The Sainted Gamu.
Misha has often been the best performer on the show this year (although I'd say she's dipped as it has gone on) - but she suffers from the 'bully' angle and that she's a terrible interview.”
Gamu was a much better vocalist than misha just saying. If she was in this year she'd have a much better chance than misha of winning. First of all she would be liked
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“I'm not a fan. I don't think she has a great voice but its never been the worst or second worst
I dont see why her voice would make anyone cringe. That sounds ridiculous.
Katie was a completely different thing. She couldn't sing at all, forget her words more than once, was obviously fake and fame hungry and was getting pimp slots and saved in botom two constantly against better singers.
The fixing they did for her was on a whole different level.
Misha was a better singer than sophie. Better than Janet. It's no great injustice she was saved over them”
“I'm not a fan. I don't think she has a great voice but its never been the worst or second worst
I dont see why her voice would make anyone cringe. That sounds ridiculous.
Katie was a completely different thing. She couldn't sing at all, forget her words more than once, was obviously fake and fame hungry and was getting pimp slots and saved in botom two constantly against better singers.
The fixing they did for her was on a whole different level.
Misha was a better singer than sophie. Better than Janet. It's no great injustice she was saved over them”
Her voice is harsh and screechy, it doesn't just make me cringe, it makes my mum and my best friend cringe too, it's horrible to listen to. Saying Kaitie couldn't sing at all is the same as me saying Misha can't sing at all - it's preference. Misha should have gone out at bootcamp, she wasn't better than any of the girls on the live shows and she wasn't better than Jade either. Again, preference, but if you can say it then so can I.
Misha's just as fake with her put on (for all of three weeks) sweet girl attitude that she never had at the begining, adopted after admitting she was bully, and then lost again this week. Not to mention the sob story that we were told we wouldn't get, well we did, but of course only for Miss Misha B. Come on, she's just a marginally better actress than Weissel.
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Originally Posted by Sheechiibii:
“Her voice is harsh and screechy, it doesn't just make me cringe, it makes my mum and my best friend cringe too, it's horrible to listen to. Saying Kaitie couldn't sing at all is the same as me saying Misha can't sing at all - it's preference. Misha should have gone out at bootcamp, she wasn't better than any of the girls on the live shows and she wasn't better than Jade either. Again, preference, but if you can say it then so can I.
Misha's just as fake with her put on (for all of three weeks) sweet girl attitude that she never had at the begining, adopted after admitting she was bully, and then lost again this week. Not to mention the sob story that we were told we wouldn't get, well we did, but of course only for Miss Misha B. Come on, she's just a marginally better actress than Weissel.
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“Her voice is harsh and screechy, it doesn't just make me cringe, it makes my mum and my best friend cringe too, it's horrible to listen to. Saying Kaitie couldn't sing at all is the same as me saying Misha can't sing at all - it's preference. Misha should have gone out at bootcamp, she wasn't better than any of the girls on the live shows and she wasn't better than Jade either. Again, preference, but if you can say it then so can I.
Misha's just as fake with her put on (for all of three weeks) sweet girl attitude that she never had at the begining, adopted after admitting she was bully, and then lost again this week. Not to mention the sob story that we were told we wouldn't get, well we did, but of course only for Miss Misha B. Come on, she's just a marginally better actress than Weissel.
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Yes, there are so many different ways of respondiing to singers. I couldn't see why Katie was being repeatedly saved last year, then finally started enjoying her performances a week or two before she left the show - bought her album and listen to it still. Misha... I agree her louder moments are often horribly harsh,and to me she steamrollers her way through every song... no connection made, no sense that they're about anything, no sense of anything but "Look At Me!!!!".. I guess it'll be apparent by now that I don't rate her over anyone else in the final 12. Some people say she's a good singer, so I have to take their word for it that to them she is. I just can't hear it at all.
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“neither could janet - otherwise why was she in the bottom 2?”
“neither could janet - otherwise why was she in the bottom 2?”
The difference being Misha has been in the bottom 2 for the past few weeks and avoided it last week with a sob story.
Janet had never been bottom 2 before this weekend and ended up there because she fumbled a song .
Going by that then Janet was obviously more popular than Misha and had done better in the live shows might not have been bottom 2.
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