Um, you keep using that term. What does that even mean? "The X Factor" isn't a tangible thing, and frankly means f*ck all. The public don't vote for her because they believe everything they read about her, like idiots. Hence, popularity contest, which it isn't.

Good post

More inaccuracy. You seem to make a habit of it. You'll probably paint yourself into a corner, declare it doesn't matter anyway and then slink away with your tail between your legs. Again.

It means they have star quality, they have that something which not many people have which will make them a superstar. It's not just about the voice, a voice alone does not make you a superstar, you need the full package. The voice, the look, the stage presence, the personality. It's not exactly a hard concept.

If you can't handle that the public are allowed an opinion on someone then that's not my fault, we don't all have to agree with you and like her. People are allowed to not like Misha B without being labelled idiots.

Charming. Actually, it IS a popularity contest, otherwise there wouldn't be a public vote to determine who is the most POPULAR with the public. The judges are essentially saying "what do you lot know? You're only the stupid people who phone in to say who you like. We'll decide who you like, thankyouverymuch, just as the music industry has been doing for years with radio playlists etc." They did this with Katie Wassel (or however her name is spelt), and where is she now?

Besides which, BOTH girls can sing. However, Janet's singing seems to connect with people a little bit more than Misha's, hence why this was her first time in the bottom two.

The thing is, if Misha can't even win over the public in a phone vote, how is she meant to get them to spend their money buying her albums? There's just no point saving her repeatedly.

When Amelia gets booted off and Johnny, Sami, Nu Vibe to name just three remain simply to fulfil quotas the concept of the "X Factor" is rendered immaterial from the off. It's about premium call revenue, nothing more, nothing less.

You again, you can't keep away can you! It's not slinking away dear, it's not wasting your time with a bunch of stans who can't accept a bad word said about someone

How exactly does the public vote decide star quality? So, you're saying, the more votes they get, the more their voice, stage presence and personality increases? That's ridiculously stupid.You are insanely naive if you really believe that this show is about trying to find a real pop star. And by the way, creating your own definition for "The X Factor" is fine and dandy, but then trying to use it to make a point in an argument is pointless. "The X Factor" has no definition and is different to different people.


If you can't handle that I'm allowed to challenge the public and their awful opinions, then it's not my fault. If people use irrational reasons to like or dislike someone, they should be berated for it. An opinion can in fact be wrong, and can in fact be stupid.

They're SUPPOSED to vote on the singing. It isn't the fault of the show if the public decide to vote on non-factors like whether or not Misha was a playground bully. WTF does that have to do with her voice.

That's why the public are foolish and basically asked to be told "What do you know?" I'd actually call it a valid question.

AsI've said before, you are entitled to:-

a) your opinion
b) voice that opinion.

I have never said you were wrong either to hold it or voice it.

What you are not entitled to do is embellish your opinion with false allegations and incorrect "facts".

The term "stan" is not one I am familiar with, I'd ask for a definition, but you'll probably balls that up too.

Just calm down and accept that people are allowed to not like her, people do not need to be told by you who they should vote for. That's the whole point of the competition, the public decides, well the public has decided, they want her out, just accept it. You can't force people to like her.

I couldn't give a toss if the public like her. I couldn't give a toss about the public. The fact is, the public may not like her, whether that's unfounded or not, the producers are saying "F*ck off, public."

That's what you need to accept and get over.

Who made you the forum police? You stating Misha B is not a categorically not bully and people are lying about her is in fact a false allegation and an incorrect fact, as you know just as little about her true personality as me. You don't know her from adam, she has been accused of bullying yet you and others come on here protesting her innocence as if you know her personally and it is a fact. Then you berate others for doing the same. You have made your opinions of her the same way we all have, yet you have come to different conclusions and present them as the truth, jumping on anyone who dares to disagree with you.

Look up the word stan, I can't be bothered to explain it you.

You sound very angry for someone who couldn't give a toss.

I don't need to get over anything, I can accept something and not like it. I accept the judges are keeping her in when she should be out, but I don't have to like it. I don't get so angry I swear repeatedly in my posts and call people idiots though.

You misinterpret bluntness for anger. I'm just telling it like it is.

And if you accept it, stop whining about it.

I don't know Misha. Absolutely correct. Neither do you. You stated Misha is a bully, I asked for evidence of this. You failed to provide it. I don't recall "berating" you, I do recall correcting you. Are you always this strident, or only when you are on your high horse?

I'm not whining, I mentioned it once then had Misha fans jump all over my post so had to defend my opinion. It's not like I'm making threads or posts all over the shop moaning about the judges keeping her in.

No, you call them "stans" instead.

Are you going to stop digging, or shall I pass you another spade??

I'm not a fan of Misha, necessarily. I like her. I'm just not tolerant of people behaving like idiots.

I provided lots of evidence for why I have come to this conclusion, then you and and load of other Misha fans proceeded to:

-State that newspapers were printing false quotes and fake stories
-State that the girl who claimed Misha bullied a blind girl was lying
-That Tulisa and Louis were lying

All without any proof what so ever, so I'm sorry, but if you and your fellow fans are going to state things as facts with no proof you have no right to criticise other people for doing the same.

Yes, looking back I shouldn't have claimed she was a nasty bully as if it was a fact, because even in light of all the evidence suggesting she is, it is still not a "fact". At first I was just trying to wind people up to be honest, but then it all got very serious and I could't be arsed with it anymore so left. That's the truth, but you can't come here criticising me for doing what you and other Misha B fans do on a regular basis, present opinions such as the ones I listed above as facts.

Thought you didn't even know what a stan was

What is bizarre is that I am copping it from this individual, even though I said before the result Misha should go if she is bottom two again THREE - (not four ) strikes and you're out, and, although I thought Misha was better in the sing off , I would have had no complaints had been given the boot.

For my sins I do care about factual accuracy and the deliberate retelling of untruths to bolster opinion that Misha should go.

Yep, loved her at the start, then meh, I was fast forwarding her performances past few weeks, they were boring. In saying that, i feel with the right music that suits her voice, she will go on to have a fantastic career!

T'interweb is the font of all knowledge.

How do you want to explain the rank hypocrisy?

You are "copping it" from me because you keep quoting my posts and getting into arguments with me. Just ignore my posts if I annoy you so much, you don't have to keeping quoting and debating with me, no one is forcing you to, but you just can't keep away for some reason. One argument ended and you just had to start another one with me!