Here comes the sour grapes of the janet fans moaning that their queen has gone and blaming this on everyone but janet

Her performances yesterday and for the last 3 weeks has been woefull. Forgetting lyrics twice and giving vocally poor lackluster performances

Its her fault that she has gone and none of the other 3 judges bar kelly saved her

Misha sang better then janet in both songs and also her save me song

Janet seemed like she was glad to leave

Xfactor is no longer a singing contest and misha has has to endure nasty negative press and nasty negative comments from some FM on here

Most people would have cracked under that strain but she has been able to perform well every week

Some people who like Misha are stans, it's the truth, everyone who is famous has stans, but I did not say everyone who likes Misha is a stan. The same way that poster said everyone who dislikes Misha is an idiot, yes some people who dislike her are idiots, but not everyone who dislikes her. You wanna look up the definition of hypocrisy.

You also have some strange obession with me, just leave me alone if I annoy you so much You don't have to keep quoting and talking to me, I'm not forcing you!

none of them could fill stadiums, thats just a fact

[quote=SAFIAH;54904706]Here comes the sour grapes of the janet fans moaning that their queen has gone and blaming this on everyone but janet

Her performances yesterday and for the last 3 weeks has been woefull. Forgetting lyrics twice and giving vocally poor lackluster performances

Its her fault that she has gone and none of the other 3 judges bar kelly saved her

Misha sang better then janet in both songs and also her save me song

Janet seemed like she was glad to leave

Xfactor is no longer a singing contest and misha has has to endure nasty negative press and nasty negative comments from some FM on here

Most people would have cracked under that strain but she has been able to perform well every week[/QUOTE]

To be fair I have to applaud her on that, not many people would have been able to do the same.

Yes - its nice you place more trust in the Cowell machine that the UK voting public. You would love life in north Korea.

It is a popularity contest - because its decided by public votes (well eventually anyway). And people make their own judgements on who they like and who is talented - you may disagree with their choices but that is tough.

Ironic you say that, considering the public is run by whatever the media tells them.

Yes, after seeing this place especially, I would definitely prefer the Cowell machine that the public still tunes in to every year and spends their money on. Well done for trying to make a point and failing horrendously.

Maybe because they don't drink it!

More to the point the judges are not running this show the producers are.

Except that's just stupid. The "foolish public" are going to decide whether or not she has a career unless the judges buy millions of her records themselves. Imho they shouldn't have voted to save someone who has been bottom two so many times over someone who's only been there once. Misha has been just as hit and miss as Janet during her time on the X Factor. I personally believe they are only saving her as they know she will be a big money maker, which isn't fair to the other contestants or the public who obviously don't want her in the competition. I think she will do great after the X Factor because she is very talented. I do however believe her time on the X Factor should have ended by now.

Most of the Misha haters aren't going to affect her career. It's the fanbase that will have the most affect, so your point is null.

Misha can sing, but she is the least popular contestant. What's foolish is how easily you disregard popularity. Do you think Britney Spears would be where she is today if she was unpopular and unlikable? Let's not be downright stupid about it...

No, they're SUPPOSED to vote for the person they want to win the X Factor. If they want to use external factors to influence their decision, then that's their prerogative - it's their money they're spending when they vote, after all. However, with the same person being saved over and over again, the public might as well not vote, as they're being ignored anyway.

It's an entertainment show. If people feel Misha isn't entertaining, then why should they vote for her? Why vote for someone you have no desire to see singing?

You're talking about two different things. Why would external factors lower their desire to see them sing, or lower that person's singing ability in any way? Answer: It wouldn't.

The public are fine to vote on that, but then the producers should also be perfectly allowed to disregard the public's decisions, as they aren't voting on what they should be voting on. Clearly, the producers think that Misha is a good singer. More power to them.

Basically, it's just empty hyperbole to make the show seem important and exciting, when it's not much more than a glossy Punch & Judy show.

If they're going to disregard the public's decisions, then why not just make up who is in the bottom two every week? In fact, why have a phone vote at all?

And I'm not talking about two different things. People's desire to see someone sing is about much more than just their pure technical singing ability. The singer's personality has to come through in their singing, and their voice needs to have some character too. Part of Marcus' appeal would seem to be that people can see he's a nice guy, and part of Janet's appeal was that she has a (relatively) unique voice. Those things help people enjoy their performances, whereas Misha seems to lack something. The clue is in the name of the show - it's The X Factor, not The Best Singer Contest.

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I think a certain poster would think it perfectly acceptable if we had a public vote in the final - and then the judges chose the winner in a sing off!

Because apparently they know best - and the public are all stupid and as a result are not voting for the person they like!

As Churchill once said 'It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried '. And four people overriding hundreds of thousands of votes certainly isn't an acceptable alternative!

By continuing to keep Misha in, the show is treating the voters like idiots who know nothing


Misha's are 10 a penny in the USA

Its the thought of either Misha or Janet filling Madison Square Garden - totally lost the plot on that thought.

Surely neither of them would - as hardly anyone in the US knows who they are!

Barlow, Tulisa and Louis cannot smell the coffee because they are overcome by the smell of Kelly R's wig glue and fake sincerity that perminates around the judges desk.

Kelly R, the worst judge in X Factor history.

Because there are plenty examples in Idol and XF history around the world of also-rans selling a lot more recordings than winners.

The 'public' don't vote. Only a small percentage of viewers vote, some of them multiple times, a lot of them are children. This doesn't replicate what happens once the hoopla has died down and singles and albums are released.

I completely agree with you here - Misha outsung her on both performances on Saturday and on the sing-off last night. Remember the outcry when Cher and Katie got through Judges' Houses despite the fact that neither had finished their song? (From what I can remember Cher was ill with a sore throat or something very similar, so please correct me if I'm wrong) If Janet, who has now forgotten her lyrics TWICE during the live shows, had been saved over Misha I'd have been angry for Misha's sake and I'm not even that big a fan of her compared to the other acts.

If the criteria is about vocal talent, performance over the weekend and future potential then Misha fully deserved her place out of those two. Yes, if it had been anyone else in the bottom two then Misha probably would have gone. However, because it was Janet, Misha proved that she deserved her place, and deserved to be saved again by the judges, rather than someone who doesn't seem to be ready for the world stage.