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Misha B is now signed to Syco...
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SULLA
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Dizagaox:
“... so she'll probably go next week, if the votes aren't there.”

Not when the judges save her again

Originally Posted by Dizagaox:
“Voting means nothing in the grand scheme of things regarding Misha B. The audience that'd buy a Misha B album don't vote on shows like The X Factor.”

I wouldn't vote for her or buy her album
M@nterik
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Dizagaox:
“Nicki Minaj, Sabi and Cher Lloyd would disagree with you.

Singer-rappers are HUGE at the moment.”

So we get another one from the production line ?

Cher Lloyd is hardly huge. She has released an album that sunk without a trace after 2 weeks. Both Matt and Wand outsold her.

Misha is less able and less likeable than Cher Lloyd.
Ateensfan
28-11-2011
why does she get a deal, it's so obvious now that the public hate her. who would bother buying her album (if it does come out)
Dynopia
28-11-2011
Misha is unlikeable, the only slight comparison you can make is Cher, but then Cher was only in the bottom 2 once and went out that week I believe? towards the very end. This is the 4th time Misha has been bottom 2/3, the public do not like her and when she comes back next year with some video with her all fierece ... well, it's hard enough for X factor acts to have longevity, let alone starting off with the public disliking you.
snuffles22
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Dynopia:
“Misha is unlikeable, the only slight comparison you can make is Cher, but then Cher was only in the bottom 2 once and went out that week I believe? towards the very end. This is the 4th time Misha has been bottom 2/3, the public do not like her and when she comes back next year with some video with her all fierece ... well, it's hard enough for X factor acts to have longevity, let alone starting off with the public disliking you.”

Cher was in the bottom 2 twice before getting voted off. This is Misha's 3rd time.

And people need to stop assuming that X-Factor voters = album buyers. They DON'T If that was the case, people like Joe and Matt would have sold like hotcakes but they clearly didn't.
Unigal07
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by snuffles22:
“Cher was in the bottom 2 twice before getting voted off. This is Misha's 3rd time.

And people need to stop assuming that X-Factor voters = album buyers. They DON'T If that was the case, people like Joe and Matt would have sold like hotcakes but they clearly didn't.”

Exactly. Well said

I think Misha has a huge career in front of her. Because if a song is good, nobody cares about the personality of the person who sings it. Misha has a fantastic voice and a huge talent for performing. She has a bright future.
Big Boy Barry
28-11-2011
Misha's been shoved down the throats of the viewer.

Three times she's been in the bottom two. The viewers are telling X Factor something

And in each case, she's been saved.
jaffa cake
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Dizagaox:
“Voting means nothing in the grand scheme of things regarding Misha B. The audience that'd buy a Misha B album don't vote on shows like The X Factor.”

Well said. I never vote on these type of programs,but Misha is the only contestant I am actually interested in what she would release even if she came 4th . Most of the winners, especially the male ones dont do that well in terms of longevity . Personally I would not mind if Little Mix won as they are perfectly adequate and inoffensive for this type of competiton .
Unigal07
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Big Boy Barry:
“Misha's been shoved down the throats of the viewer.

Three times she's been in the bottom two. The viewers are telling X Factor something

And in each case, she's been saved.”

Because she's got the whole package - performer, good vocalist, style and attitude. She may not be the most likeable girl in the world but that doesn't matter when you're selling albums - it's the music that matters and that's what Misha is about. Gaga, Madonna, Xtina, Whitney et al aren't particularly sweet or likeable acts, are they?

As someone else has said on here - if likeability had a huge effect on selling albums and success post show, Leon, Joe and Matt would have become huge successes. They didn't because it doesn't.
jaffa cake
28-11-2011
I think that the majority of forum members forget that there is a whole big wide world outside if Digitalspy and opinions expressed on this forum are not a true reflection of public opinion.
Big Boy Barry
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“Because she's got the whole package - performer, good vocalist, style and attitude. She may not be the most likeable girl in the world but that doesn't matter when you're selling albums - it's the music that matters and that's what Misha is about. Gaga, Madonna, Xtina, Whitney et al aren't particularly sweet or likeable acts, are they?

As someone else has said on here - if likeability had a huge effect on selling albums and success post show, Leon, Joe and Matt would have become huge successes. They didn't because it doesn't.”

I disgree that she has the whole package. She's far more limited that one may think. It's interesting that most of the other acts on the show have been pressured to move "out of their comfort zone" when Misha has done nothing of the sort. She sings in the same way every week, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing for her (because an artist should stick to what they are comfortable with) it shows that she is not being held to the same standards as the other contestants.

As for Leon, Joe and Matt, X Factor has always been hit and miss with regards to winners having success after the show finishes.
Servalan
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Big Boy Barry:
“I disgree that she has the whole package. She's far more limited that one may think. It's interesting that most of the other acts on the show have been pressured to move "out of their comfort zone" when Misha has done nothing of the sort. She sings in the same way every week, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing for her (because an artist should stick to what they are comfortable with) it shows that she is not being held to the same standards as the other contestants.

As for Leon, Joe and Matt, X Factor has always been hit and miss with regards to winners having success after the show finishes.”

Er - more miss than hit, don't you mean ...?
Bob Evans
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by EdgarK:
“Has the OP inside information? I thought Simon was supposed to be so down on the quality of acts this year that it was an open question as to whether anyone but the winner would be signed. (Unless the winner's already been decided... not much would surprise me )”


Probably poor reporting. All of the Xfactor finalists are contratcually bound until at least the end of the Tour
abigail1234
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by beebee:
“I am a Misha fan who would never vote on the X Factor (though not just XF, all reality shows with phone voting... I assume it's only teenagers who bother doing that kind of thing any more?!!) - anyway I couldn't give two hoots about Misha's personality, or anyone else's for that matter. I always skip through those ridiculous sob stories and don't watch the behind the scenes show, just the performances.

It's about the voice, the style, the production & talent, and I for one can't wait to see what Misha will produce in a studio after the XF circus is over ”

I'm not a Misha fan but she is the one I was most drawn to from the beginning. Like you, I couldn't care less about the rest of the stuff - it was her voice that drew me and still does. Love it, and it's that which will make me buy her albums - if I like what is on them. I don't vote, though
Bob Evans
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“So we get another one from the production line ?

Cher Lloyd is hardly huge. She has released an album that sunk without a trace after 2 weeks. Both Matt and Wand outsold her.

Misha is less able and less likeable than Cher Lloyd.”


Cher never had a big following like Misha she has a very small niche market.

As others have said Cher's release pretty much bombed in spite of her apperance on the X factor. It did not suprise me she was another poor singer and the song she released was poor so was never going to go anywhere
Big Boy Barry
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Er - more miss than hit, don't you mean ...?”

Generally yes. In terms of winners, I think Leona Lewis is their sole "big" star.
Pilotofthestorm
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by abigail1234:
“I'm not a Misha fan but she is the one I was most drawn to from the beginning. Like you, I couldn't care less about the rest of the stuff - it was her voice that drew me and still does. Love it, and it's that which will make me buy her albums - if I like what is on them. I don't vote, though”

Personally I don't like her voice, don't like her songs and don't like her attitude but thats my perogative as it is yours to like the music she produces. That is the X-factor in a nutshell. She will sell albums simply because enough people who watch the show will buy her stuff, its a shop window and an opportunity she wouldn't otherwise have and good luck to her I say. Is she the next big thing?? Not a chance IMO
OddsOn
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bob Evans:
“Cher never had a big following like Misha she has a very small niche market.

As others have said Cher's release pretty much bombed in spite of her apperance on the X factor. It did not suprise me she was another poor singer and the song she released was poor so was never going to go anywhere”

Misha has been in the bottom two more times than Cher though, kind of suggests Cher has the bigger fanbase.
Nate27
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by snuffles22:
“Cher was in the bottom 2 twice before getting voted off. This is Misha's 3rd time.

And people need to stop assuming that X-Factor voters = album buyers. They DON'T If that was the case, people like Joe and Matt would have sold like hotcakes but they clearly didn't.”

You need to get your facts right. Joe is very successful with Universal.

Clearly the problem is Syco. What a failure and they have been doing this since the beginning.

Idiots are working in this label to do that electro direction for Joe when 10 weeks he performed pop rock which showcase his exceptional voice. Clearly idiots work on this label with king of stupid heading it.

But Joe does need to deal with this horrible label anymore.
Bob Evans
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by OddsOn:
“Misha has been in the bottom two more times than Cher though, kind of suggests Cher has the bigger fanbase.”


You caanot conclude exact popularity from that. All it tells you is neither is popular the other thing is very few voters actually buy the Albums in any case
Charlottesweb
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bob Evans:
“You caanot conclude exact popularity from that. All it tells you is neither is popular the other thing is very few voters actually buy the Albums in any case”

Or, winners song aside, music in general.

X factor audience isnt what drives music sales.

As it happens, it seemed to me that Janet was talking as if she already had a deal too , her interview on X Factor and Xtra Factor both mentioned her music coming out and gigging.

I would imagine the top 5 will all get at least a single out of it, dont like all of them, but , like Olly Murs who I cant stand musically, I hope they all take the chance and make something of it.

The point of the show is entertainment, but if it can change a few lives for the better, then good for them,
IRKarl
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“I'd buy her album if that's what you're referring to?”

Have you money to burn?
liam_matthews
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Launch Fan:
“IF she's signed to Syco via the show, then they don't have high hopes for her, as the best artists are co-signed to a co-label, especially if they have overseas potential.

So right now, expect an album of covers and a few of those crappy rapping records the chavs are buying up and playing at full blast out of their 15 year old Ford Escorts.

Partly, that's a shame, as she's an excellent singer, but her demographic is very restricted due to being unpopular other than with the "BRAAP BRAAP" crowd.”

This.
weeesel
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Dizagaox:
“Nicki Minaj, Sabi and Cher Lloyd would disagree with you.

Singer-rappers are HUGE at the moment.”

And by the time (in the extremely unlikely and completely hideous case of Misha B winning) the winner is allowed to release their album (12 months after the show, is it not?) singer-rappers will be sooooooo last year.
weeesel
28-11-2011
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“Because she's got the whole package - performer, good vocalist, style and attitude. She may not be the most likeable girl in the world but that doesn't matter when you're selling albums - it's the music that matters and that's what Misha is about. Gaga, Madonna, Xtina, Whitney et al aren't particularly sweet or likeable acts, are they?

As someone else has said on here - if likeability had a huge effect on selling albums and success post show, Leon, Joe and Matt would have become huge successes. They didn't because it doesn't.”

Ah but that's not the whole issue. Likeability is indisputably a big part of selling records (Murs, Mars, Jack Johnson, Blunt etc etc - all completely anodyne singers but likeable characters so sell in droves) but it is a complete fiction to think that everyone who is likeable sells albums. Otherwise my cat Kevin would have a Dark Side Of The Moon to his name. Dislikeability, on the other hand, is a big part of not selling albums. I cannot think of any artists who are actually dislikeable to the extent Misha B is who have gone on to great careers. Gaga , Aguilera and Madonna were/ are always cartoon 'bad girl', Spears had bad girl thrust upon her and Whitney kind of wasn't unlikeable up to roughly the point in her career when it nose dived. Which kind of proves the point.
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