They are all signed to SYCO. Apart from being a music production company it also produces X Factor. So they all have a contract with it. If I remember correctly the company is restrained from signing acts until the live shows are after. So I suspect your thread is designed to wind people up who don't lke Mishas singing particularly as you call us 'haters' which is against forum rules.

EXACTLY!!! And I think thats the key point people keeep missing!! I would never vote on x factor but I would definitely buy her songs and really would pay to see her in a solo concert and I'm sure thats many others also

Blunt???? Likeable???? Really??? This is the first time I've encountered such a description of the horrid whining little get.

Further points I agree with and I would add Grace Jones to your list; not what could be described as likeable, scary and amazonian, (and brilliant)

First off, when Cher was at the stage Misha is in the competition she had been in the bottom once. Misha's been in the bottom 3 times already. Cher was saved a 2nd time only in the semi final.


Matt sold 15k more in his albums 1st week sales. Whereas she has sold hundreds of thousands more singles than he has. So to say he outsold her is wrong. She may even overtake his album sales over the coming weeks if the album holds up in the charts, which it may as her singles have showed much more longevity than was expected.


Cher avoided the bottom for much longer than Misha who found herself there by the 3rd public vote. If we look at the voting it's clear that Misha does not have anywhere near the following Cher had in the competition.

When are people gonna get it?? Voting on the xfactor has little bearing on actual success after the show? In Misha's case the people who will buy her records/love her music are exactly the people who don't watch the xfactor/wouldn't vote!

Tinchy Styder loves her; Chipmunk; Wretch 32; not exactly your typical xfactor demongraphic!!! People like myself rate her highly as an artist and would buy her music. Even if she was a 'bully' at school; I truly believe in second chances and it wouldn't stop me buying her music. In her sector many artists are reformed criminals/drug addicts and people still buy their music.
What I'm saying is that many people seem to be judging Misha on her personality not her music/talent. Her voice won't be to everyone's taste (and that's fair enough) but believe me she is going to be a success in the industry regardless of how popular she is now on xfactor!!

Same here, I love the voice and can't wait to hear her finished product, and am pretty certain I willl be buying what she puts out.

It's hard to know whom to believe. We've had posters here saying she'll be huge in America and others saying that if you throw a stone in America it'll probably hit a singer like Misha. Think I'll just forget her, if she becomes a global superstar I'll probably hear about it

Erm, no...

Top 4 have UK record deals exclusively with Syco unless dropped. Sometimes they transfer from Syco to another Sony Music label, but rarely.

For international markets, Syco partners with other record labels.

Syco will partner Misha B up with either Interscope/Akon or Cash Money. Bet money on this.

Misha's target audience probably don't vote, and as for not seeing her as a commercial success, The X Factor has been a great platform for her. IMO, her and Amelia Lily are probably the only ones who would have made it past the judges houses in the American version of X Factor.

Misha has a short life span as a recording artist. They will want to cash in on her as quickly as possible, then she will be dropped - just like the rest.

For the record I like Cher - always have. But this Matt is a flop crap upthread is not only lazy and facile its inaccurate (I know you haven't called him a flop btw Donbon). For a start compare his chart run with Cher's in this super-competitive quarter.
Matt: 2-6-11-19-30-32
Cher: 4-12-22

He's had one single out pre- album, she's had 2. I don't think for a second that Cher has 'flopped' and I don't think she's going to, but perhaps its time to leave Matt out of these tired lists of 'failures' too... Look at his steadiness in the charts and look at his sales - Matt is doing really well in a climate like this, especially with a pretty much universally hostile press and Radio 1 as ever snubbing the XF winner. He's not Steve Brookstein, he's not Leon and he's not pre-Universal Joe ( Universal Joe appears to be doing very nicely indeed, which may be another disappointment to lovers of failure lists).

Misha's coming up for the same kind of crazy expectations this years lot have had. Its not enough to anticipate a successful career - she has to have back to back no 1s and global superstardom to be seen as 'a success'. Its actually not that easy.

Excellent point clearly made.

She is not overtaking Matt, on the contrary, the gap in increasing, and also her single isn't doing very well, it is loosing airplay fast so her sales of both album and single are going to start dropping sharply.
By contrast, Matt's airplay is rising and should at worse keep his sales going, at best increase them.

Probably true. Suspect that the overall cost of promoting her will be far greater and even if she hits a few No.1's (not hard in number sales these days), will not give a useful return. She might prove to be a good tax deductable loss here whilst moving money around the World.

I don't hate her;...I just don't really like her voice. It sounds so ordinary. I can't see what the fuss is about tbh

You make some good points. People who vote for X Factor acts or come on here, are not just the one's who will or won't buy into Misha's and hand over the real £'s. However I don't see her as distinctive enough in her own right to pull in crowds, or make any real dent on the Music Market. Having said that, Syco have her lined up I'm sure for a certain mass audience and their marketing guys plus production money, will buy her a place in the Charts. They'll lose interest as quick as they gained it. Will Misha be left with a loyal hardcore fan base? doubt it.

Hi Liz, I'm sick of the comparisons too. But felt it necessary to respond to others who brought it up.

You make a fair point, his album sales are good. I was saying that it's still possible that she could overtake them as album sales shouldn't be judged by their first weeks sales. Of course Matt has a single coming up soon that will probably boost his album too.

About right for me. With the X Factor they do need fodder for the machine that is bendable to their needs and whims, they will fuss over Misha. Janet def was not.

I'm not sure. Syco has been trying to make inroads into the "urban" market recently. Cher Lloyd was a failed experiment, because she has no credibility in the urban scene or with other urban artists.

But the signing of Labrinth to Syco, who is arguably the biggest producer/artist on the UK urban scene, suggests Syco want credible urban acts. They pretty much leave Labrinth to his own devices and let him do what he wants, because they know that they cannot A&R a credible urban act.

Misha might get the same treatment as Labrinth, and she brings far more talent and credibility to the table than Cher, who was marketed as chavvy urban pop for 12 year olds. Misha could be a bit more sophisticated (think Emelie Sande crossed with Miss Dynamite). Possibly even an album produced by Labrinth, with lots of hook-ups by his mates (Tinie Tempah etc etc). If done right, it could gain the sort of credibility rarely associated with Syco (other than from Labrinth himself).

The Dynamics of how Syco makes any real money out of most of these acts is lost to me and has been raised before. Until an insider can come on and tell us where the profit margin is I'm left with the feeling that large quantities of time effort and money are ploughed in to build up a n act with little visible reward. They will eventually lose interest in any act that is not bringing in enough money or interest. Wonder how long Matt, Cher and One Direction will last.

Talking about promotion of acts. How bad was it that on Sunday the current X Factor finalist came out to sing (or mime) the latest Charity Single, but right at the end JLS then the useless One Direction walk on and stand in front of the others completely obscuring them whilst collecting all the applause and attention!

I am sure the MacDonalds released an album that went number 1 in Scotland and disappeared without a trace everywhere else. I remember people on here continuing to deny that they were more popular amongst Scots than non-Scots. (EDIT: Wikipedia tells me that they signed to Syco and released three albums then a fourth on Sony BMG) Also, maybe it is significant that the others were all "overs", over 30 in the case of most of them, and therefore less marketable whereas Cher and Diana were other 16-24 girls.

Finally, I think comparing Cher with Matt is the wrong comparison. Try comparing Cher to Rebecca which was more "nice humble girl" vs "horrible arrogant bully girl" if you believe the media. "Nice humble girl" never finished in the bottom 2 and finished in a better position but it was the "horrible arrogant bully girl" who got a number 1 single

It is true that getting lots of votes on X factor doesn't necessarily translate into album sales. But how often have we seen poor voting performances turn in to great album sales?

Are there any instances of someone ending up in the bottom 2 multiple times who then went on to have a great musical career afterwards? I can't think of any off the top of my head. I could be wrong, of course. Note though that I'm not talking about someone releasing music after having a bad run in the show, but someone who released music and became successful after having a bad run on the show.

See, the reason votes don't translate to sales is simply because people don't spend on albums in the same way they spend on voting. Voting requires lifting a telephone and you don't even see the cost until the bill comes in. In many cases, the one making the vote won't even pay the bill. It is also easy and beneficial to vote multiple times.

Compare that to buying an album. You have to lay out the money up-front. It costs more than a phone vote. There is no benefit in buying multiple copies of the album. Also, you are now comparing the artist to every other artist in the business, instead of just to 11 other talent show contestants.

The reasons why votes don't translate to album sales are quite obvious. Some will, of course - but it is clear why all of them don't. But the same applies to all contestants and not just the winner. They will all fail to translate their entire voting public into album-buying customers.

Yes, it is possible they can also pick up new customers who never voted on the show, but then that can be true for any of them. The fact of the matter, though, is that we can't judge how many that will be at this stage. If it were so obvious, the people working for record companies would come to the same conclusions and we'd never see artists flop.

But we do.

The reality is that success comes down to other factors. One is if they are successfully marketed. If the marketing campaign is weak, then exposure is poor and no-one new will hear of them. The other is - what should be - the most obvious; the songs. If you get at least one outstanding song as a lead single, you are away. If you get nothing but mediocre songs, then it doesn't matter how amazing a singer you are. You just won't sell. Hence why a mediocre singer can do fantastically if they get amazing songs.

So it really isn't possible to judge whether Misha would be successful or not. The only data we have to work on that the moment is the votes. That data does not conclude that she would. It suggests that she is not popular enough with the public. Any other suggestions of "her demographic would buy her albums, but don't vote on shows like the X Factor" are pure conjecture based on anecdotal evidence (eg. I don't vote, but would buy her album, therefore there must be a large proportion of people who feel the same).

Time will tell, as more information becomes forthcoming. But for right now, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that her chances are not good. She requires investment to produce good songs and get the necessary marketing. But who will risk giving her the good stuff based on her poor voting run? That's not good business sense.

It could happen, but it is unlikely.

EDIT: that was more rambling than I intended!

Misha will be going to the States and Kelly's team will be looking after her....She will sell more albums in the US than she will here. Singles are irrelevant as only Children buy them.

As I was speaking specifically about Albums I was plainly correct.

Her album is plummeting so I would not hold my breath on that one

But it is not her fault, it is Tulisa's fault for daring to bring up her behaviour !!!!!