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Old 15-10-2016, 14:44
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the sun article says -

"Also planned is a versatile extra set which can be adjusted at short notice to look like a court or store."

If true (this is the Sun after all!!) a versatile set sounds good, one scene there's a court facade & then it's switched to a supermarket

The article did say that plans are "being finalised" which would suggest they are in the planning stages. But the area behind the Victoria Flats and Gym has been sheilded by tarpaulin at least since the flat fire last year.
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/coro...ew-characters/

DS is also carrying the story now
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Old 15-10-2016, 15:27
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I feel a bit uneasy about there being a new residential street. The show is called Coronation Street after all. They'd be better off making a high street and gradually moving shops slowly away from the main street, that way Coronation Street can be all about the living and pub and community, and this new one can be where people work...

I wonder when the plans will be finalised, how much we'll hear and how long it'll take. I think they absolutely HAVE to get this right, or it'll be not only a waste of money but a costly mistake.
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Old 15-10-2016, 17:31
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About time they decided to do this extension as I recall the set was being discussed including detailed plans way back when Ken was still headmaster of the school. The idea was to have a complete town square with Bessie Street school, courthouse, police station (not just fascade), Frescos and other associated shops. They pulled it when the Quay Street tours finished and they realised they could just use the existing NY Street set for filming, which is where we got that funny corner piece with the entrance to the nightclub (Kylies first scenes) and the cash point where Issy got mugged.

They certainly do have the space at Media City to do the expansion so I hope this time it happens.
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Old 15-10-2016, 17:41
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I feel a bit uneasy about there being a new residential street. The show is called Coronation Street after all. They'd be better off making a high street and gradually moving shops slowly away from the main street, that way Coronation Street can be all about the living and pub and community, and this new one can be where people work...

I wonder when the plans will be finalised, how much we'll hear and how long it'll take. I think they absolutely HAVE to get this right, or it'll be not only a waste of money but a costly mistake.
I agree with you James. In my opinion, and I've aired it a thousand times on DS in the past, they really need to make the distinction between Coronation Street as the residential heart of the show, with other areas/streets/sets being home to businesses and places of work. I dread that they will simply build another Coronation Street complete with homes and new businesses without actually addressing any of the issues on the current set.

Another worry of mine is that the design team will follow the toy-town-Disneyland-olde-worldy style that they used for the Victoria Street extension and, more recently, on the Eccleston's hardware store that we can see through the Rosamund Street viaduct. To me, this style would've looked dated even in the 60s, never mind 2016.

The show really needs something that is more contemporary and reflects 2016, which is why I have always argued for them introducing a set for the precinct that could be given a modern twist, including a brand new freshco store. I sincerely hope that this new set (or sets as some people have suggested) will take Corrie forward and not keep them stuck in the time warp that they're currently in.
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Old 15-10-2016, 17:42
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I feel a bit uneasy about there being a new residential street. The show is called Coronation Street after all. They'd be better off making a high street and gradually moving shops slowly away from the main street, that way Coronation Street can be all about the living and pub and community, and this new one can be where people work...

I wonder when the plans will be finalised, how much we'll hear and how long it'll take. I think they absolutely HAVE to get this right, or it'll be not only a waste of money but a costly mistake.
There's always been non-Coronation Street settings in Corrie. From Gamma Garments in the 60s; to the cafe and Kabin in the 70s; and Bettabuys in the 90s. Frankly it's stretching things to include any more on actual Coronation St
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Old 15-10-2016, 18:15
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I can't wait for the new street and new characters to be introduced... I've always wondered when they would use it
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Old 15-10-2016, 20:18
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I hope the take a leaf out of Hollyoaks book with their set which is little disconnected parts with no visible connecting space in between so you dont know how large the village is

also hollyoaks used different sides of the same buildings for different places so the 'school' building could be bessy street infants one side / weathy high the other side
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Old 15-10-2016, 20:28
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Itsel just be The Sun taking a snippet of info and trying to sensationalise it. "A second coronation street" sounds more tabloid than, they are building a few more bits of set.
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Old 16-10-2016, 15:23
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I wonder if they'll use the other side of Mawdesley Street?

We've some (never mentioned) businesses through the "wasn't seen before 2000" bridge and looking at the plans mentioned at the start of this thread that seems like one area that's been earmarked for future development?

Let's face it long before my earliest memories of the Street The Kabin was set elsewhere.
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Old 16-10-2016, 15:25
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I hope the take a leaf out of Hollyoaks book with their set which is little disconnected parts with no visible connecting space in between so you dont know how large the village is

also hollyoaks used different sides of the same buildings for different places so the 'school' building could be bessy street infants one side / weathy high the other side
If my memory serves me well when the site was used for both Brookside & Hollyoaks the swimming pool was split 50/50. One side for Hollyoaks and one side for Brookside.
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Old 16-10-2016, 15:37
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There's always been non-Coronation Street settings in Corrie. From Gamma Garments in the 60s; to the cafe and Kabin in the 70s; and Bettabuys in the 90s. Frankly it's stretching things to include any more on actual Coronation St
I think the point James was making was that Coronation Street is and always will be the residential heart of the show. Any new sets should focus more on businesses or places of work.

I don't mind one or two flats or individual houses (like Audrey's on Grasmere Drive) but the thought of a whole new street of homes fills me with dread as it will, inevitably, take some of the focus away from Coronation Street. I'd like to see the new set be home to businesses only, in the same vein as the places you reference like Gamma Garments, the Kabin and Bettabuys.
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:28
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To those who are saying the new street should be commercial, you'd surely then agree to redeveloping the commercial side of Corrie and throwing some terraced houses up there to restore the residential/commercial balance?
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:34
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To those who are saying the new street should be commercial, you'd surely then agree to redeveloping the commercial side of Corrie and throwing some terraced houses up there to restore the residential/commercial balance?
Absolutely.

The salon could be redeveloped into a house like Not 4 - 8. They could possibly do the same thing with the Kabin. The factory/garage could be developed into apartments.
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:48
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Where will the new set be in conjunction with the existing set? They already have the backs of the houses behind coronation street so will they build the frontage of these properties? If so that's about thirteen new houses, quite extensive but not all of them would need to have occupants.
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:56
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Where will the new set be in conjunction with the existing set? They already have the backs of the houses behind coronation street so will they build the frontage of these properties? If so that's about thirteen new houses, quite extensive but not all of them would need to have occupants.
Who knows, Scrabbler.

It's ironic but the new set at MediaCity has all of the limitations of size that the original Quay Street set had, just on a larger scale. The current set is hemmed in by road on two sides and car parks on the other two, so and actual extension to what is existing would be difficult. Personally I can't see them opening up Mawdsley Street (which is the street behind Coronation Street which already has the backs of the houses you mention) but given the way Corrie approaches things these days you never know.

In terms of space, the only option for an extension would mean encroaching on the car park space at MediaCity but judging by how full that car park is in the picture above, the practicalities may be difficult to manage. They really are limited as to where they can build any realistic extension to the set.

In my opinion any new set needs to be big and bold, not a small-scale bolt on which is what we've been getting for the past 16 years or so like the 1999/2000 Victoria Street extension and the Rosamund Street viaduct or the more recent development of Victoria Court and the gym.
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Old 16-10-2016, 17:03
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Who knows, Scrabbler.

It's ironic but the new set at MediaCity has all of the limitations of size that the original Quay Street set had, just on a larger scale. The current set is hemmed in by road on two sides and car parks on the other two, so and actual extension to what is existing would be difficult. Personally I can't see them opening up Mawdsley Street (which is the street behind Coronation Street which already has the backs of the houses you mention) but given the way Corrie approaches things these days you never know.

In terms of space, the only option for an extension would mean encroaching on the car park space at MediaCity but judging by how full that car park is in the picture above, the practicalities may be difficult to manage. They really are limited as to where they can build any realistic extension to the set.

In my opinion any new set needs to be big and bold, not a small-scale bolt on which is what we've been getting for the past 16 years or so like the 1999/2000 Victoria Street extension and the Rosamund Street viaduct or the more recent development of Victoria Court and the gym.
Why on earth didn't they take all this into consideration in the first place? Rather than looking at the MediaCity set as a mere replacement they should've been thinking long term.

I don't think will open up Mawdsley Street as they'll want Coronation Street to remain the focus, understandably.
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Old 16-10-2016, 17:13
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Who knows, Scrabbler.

It's ironic but the new set at MediaCity has all of the limitations of size that the original Quay Street set had, just on a larger scale. The current set is hemmed in by road on two sides and car parks on the other two, so and actual extension to what is existing would be difficult. Personally I can't see them opening up Mawdsley Street (which is the street behind Coronation Street which already has the backs of the houses you mention) but given the way Corrie approaches things these days you never know.

In terms of space, the only option for an extension would mean encroaching on the car park space at MediaCity but judging by how full that car park is in the picture above, the practicalities may be difficult to manage. They really are limited as to where they can build any realistic extension to the set.

In my opinion any new set needs to be big and bold, not a small-scale bolt on which is what we've been getting for the past 16 years or so like the 1999/2000 Victoria Street extension and the Rosamund Street viaduct or the more recent development of Victoria Court and the gym.
Wow they really didn't give themselves much room for expansion did they?

I do get your point that Corrie is supposed to be a minor backstreet so all these random businesses opening up in random places is a bit weird.

At least in Walford you have all the main houses together and then the street it's all the shops and businesses are all together.

They'll have to bring in probably ten new characters to make the new street and businesses worthwhile and Corrie generally has a cast of about 60+ main characters as it is! Then if they are bringing in a police and school set they'll need at least two teachers, two coppers etc. I can understand the concerns.
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Old 16-10-2016, 17:43
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Why on earth didn't they take all this into consideration in the first place? Rather than looking at the MediaCity set as a mere replacement they should've been thinking long term.

I don't think will open up Mawdsley Street as they'll want Coronation Street to remain the focus, understandably.
I don't think that they took much into consideration when they were planning the set move Grad, other than recreating the Quay Street set in as much detail as possible. What's most annoying is that all the press and PR that was churned out during the set move spoke of it being about 'to take Corrie into the next 50 years' and 'keeping the show relevant and up-to-date'. The set move has provided none of that and has just reinforced all of the same issues that it's had since it began in 1960. The move to MediaCity epitomises ITV's approach to Corrie: safe, safe, safe.
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Old 16-10-2016, 17:55
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Wow they really didn't give themselves much room for expansion did they?

I do get your point that Corrie is supposed to be a minor backstreet so all these random businesses opening up in random places is a bit weird.

At least in Walford you have all the main houses together and then the street it's all the shops and businesses are all together.

They'll have to bring in probably ten new characters to make the new street and businesses worthwhile and Corrie generally has a cast of about 60+ main characters as it is! Then if they are bringing in a police and school set they'll need at least two teachers, two coppers etc. I can understand the concerns.
Scrabbs, the reference to EastEnders is absolutely perfect and I really hadn't thought about it before. You have Albert Square as the main hub of houses with the Queen Vic and fruit and veg stall almost acting as the 'gatekeepers' as the set moves on into the more business heavy area, which is meant to be reminiscent of an East End high street. It's actually got a really good balance between the two, even if they are all connected together.

Corrie on the other hand has no clear distinction between areas and the whole thing is an increasingly big mess of homes and businesses. Comfortable three-bedroomed houses sitting next to a whopping great textiles factory, a high-end bistro next to a grubby garage. I sincerely hope that they don't just recreate this in the new set/area.

The main issue here is that Corrie likes to mix types/quality of residences without a second thought. For instance, we're meant to believe that a successful and popular restaurant sits nestled between a basic corner shop and an olde world newsagent. That's without taking into consideration it being at the end of a tatty back street or near to the garage. The bistro always seems to have a young and hip clientele (by that I mean extras) but can anyone seriously believe that the bright young things of Weatherfield would go somewhere like that? Is that really the kind of place that people flock to for a night out? Is it really the kind of place that people want to be seen in? In the same vein, we're meant to believe that the luxury flats at Victoria Court sit next to a builders yard, greasy spoon and a kebab shop. Really? Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are places like this in the UK, but I'll be damned if the flats are as swanky as Corrie likes to portray them as being.

Apologies, ended up aimlessly ranting
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Old 16-10-2016, 18:06
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I don't think that they took much into consideration when they were planning the set move Grad, other than recreating the Quay Street set in as much detail as possible. What's most annoying is that all the press and PR that was churned out during the set move spoke of it being about 'to take Corrie into the next 50 years' and 'keeping the show relevant and up-to-date'. The set move has provided none of that and has just reinforced all of the same issues that it's had since it began in 1960. The move to MediaCity epitomises ITV's approach to Corrie: safe, safe, safe.
Agree with you completely, KK . I for one, and I'm sure most viewers, would've been happy to accept some fairly major set changes for the benefit of a much improved set for the future, but no - the new set build was uninspired and a wasted opportunity
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Old 16-10-2016, 18:45
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Scrabbs, the reference to EastEnders is absolutely perfect and I really hadn't thought about it before. You have Albert Square as the main hub of houses with the Queen Vic and fruit and veg stall almost acting as the 'gatekeepers' as the set moves on into the more business heavy area, which is meant to be reminiscent of an East End high street. It's actually got a really good balance between the two, even if they are all connected together.

Corrie on the other hand has no clear distinction between areas and the whole thing is an increasingly big mess of homes and businesses. Comfortable three-bedroomed houses sitting next to a whopping great textiles factory, a high-end bistro next to a grubby garage. I sincerely hope that they don't just recreate this in the new set/area.

The main issue here is that Corrie likes to mix types/quality of residences without a second thought. For instance, we're meant to believe that a successful and popular restaurant sits nestled between a basic corner shop and an olde world newsagent. That's without taking into consideration it being at the end of a tatty back street or near to the garage. The bistro always seems to have a young and hip clientele (by that I mean extras) but can anyone seriously believe that the bright young things of Weatherfield would go somewhere like that? Is that really the kind of place that people flock to for a night out? Is it really the kind of place that people want to be seen in? In the same vein, we're meant to believe that the luxury flats at Victoria Court sit next to a builders yard, greasy spoon and a kebab shop. Really? Don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are places like this in the UK, but I'll be damned if the flats are as swanky as Corrie likes to portray them as being.

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Old 16-10-2016, 23:50
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Jesus KornerKabin, you're off one on tonight. And I absolutely agree with every single word of it. They need to find a large expanse of land, build the set and then have a few acres each way, before car parking to expand into if they need it, with the indoor sets housed on one side of the outdoor set, behind a facade. I might try and mock up a drawing at some point.
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Old 17-10-2016, 00:11
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I reckon the new street will be Tile Street, most likely built behind Victoria Street
http://medias.photodeck.com/a0c8fb19...12385_uxga.jpg
There's quite a large space for a new street there.

For the temporary sets, the could build them behind Mawdsley Street, since they would be interchangable, they woudn't need to be permanent.
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Old 17-10-2016, 01:30
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We don't need a new street. Put more people in the block of flats. The absolute irony is of course nothing ever happens in anyone's house anymore, unless you're a Barlow, McDonald or a Platt. Everyone else either has their drama on the cobbles or in one of the businesses.
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Old 17-10-2016, 04:28
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We don't need a new street. Put more people in the block of flats. The absolute irony is of course nothing ever happens in anyone's house anymore, unless you're a Barlow, McDonald or a Platt. Everyone else either has their drama on the cobbles or in one of the businesses.
One thing that amazed me was the fact the Victoria Court flats continued to be a facade when they moved over to Media City.

I know the houses aren't to full scale but I'm still adamant they should have put some of the lesser used sets inside of the properties on the Street.

Take no.13 as an example; some of the angles could have easily been filmed from Dev's shop.

They made a song and dance about the cab office being on the backlot but even that looks like it's back in the studio now.

And ranting further... a few months ago when David & Nick were in the Bistro "yard" I noticed it was the back of Dev's shop. Then there was Steve in his cab avoiding a call from Liz/Michelle and it was the car park in the photo above overlooking the Quays.

Why have a new set to drive the programme forward but continue to keep it as a Museum and avoid "thinking outside the box"?
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